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Post by East Texas Parrothead »

I forget if it was O'Reilly or Hannity that said on the radio several months back that he had actually held Obama's birth certificate (or a legal copy) in his hands and had no problem with it. I really thought all of that had been put to rest. Oh, well.
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On the internet, so it must be true

:o

For Immediate Release - 10/21/08

For Further Information Contact:

Philip J. Berg, EsquireBerg v. Obama

555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531

Cell (610) 662-3005
No. 08-cv-04083

(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.com


Obama & DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit regarding Obama's "Not" Qualified to be President and Obama Should Immediately Withdraw his Candidacy for President

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania ­ 10/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama's lack of "qualifications" to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and tbe DNC "ADMITTED", by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is "NOT QUALIFIED" to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed "ADMITTED."

Therefore, Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President.

The admissions include:

OBAMA - Admitted:

I was born in Kenya.
I am a Kenya "natural born" citizen.
3. My foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
4. My father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr. admitted Paternity of me.
5. My mother gave birth to me in Mombosa, Kenya.
6. My mother's maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
7. The COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website
"Fightthesmears.com" is a forgery.
8. I was adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
9. I was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
10. I was not born in Hawaii.
11. I was not born at the Queens Medical Center in Hawaii.
12. I was not born at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in
Hawaii.
13. I was not born in a Hospital in Hawaii.
14. I am a citizen of Indonesia.
15. I never took the "Oath of Allegiance" to regain my U.S. Citizenship status.
16. I am not a "natural born" United States citizen.
17. My date of birth is August 4, 1961.
18. I traveled to Pakistan in 1981 with my Pakistan friends.
19. In 1981, I went to Indonesia on my way to Pakistan.
20. Pakistan was a no travel zone in 1981 for American Citizens.
21. In 1981, Pakistan was not allowing American Citizens to enter
their country.
I traveled on my Indonesian Passport to Pakistan.
23. I renewed my Indonesian Passport on my way to Pakistan.
24. My senior campaign staff is aware I am not a "natural born"
United States Citizen.
25. I am proud of my Kenya Heritage.
26. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth
certificate that identifies my first name.
My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth
certificate that identifies my last name.
My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth
certificate that identifies my place of birth.
I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate
that identifies my first name.
I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate
that identifies my last name.
I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate
that identifies my place of birth.
The document identified as my Indonesian School record from
Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia is genuine.
33. I went to a Judge in Hawaii to have my name changed.
34. I went to a Senator and/or Congressman or other public official
in Hawaii to have my name changed.
35. I had a passport issued to me from the Government of Indonesia.
36. The United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold
the office of President of the United States unless that person
is a "natural born" United States citizen.
I am ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve
as President and/or Vice President of the United States.
I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship
to the country of Indonesia.
I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship
to the country of Kenya.
40. I am an Attorney who specializes in Constitutional Law.
41. Kenya was a part of the British Colonies at the time of my birth.
42. Kenya did not become its own Republic until 1963.
43. I am not a "Naturalized" United States Citizen.
I obtained $200 Million dollars in campaign funds by fraudulent means.
I cannot produce a "vault" (original) long version of a birth certificate showing my birth in Hawaii.
My "vault" (original) long version birth certificate shows my birth
in Kenya.
The only times I was to a Hospital in Hawaii was for check-ups
or medical treatments for illnesses.
48. Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of
my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me.
49. Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii
does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama)
giving birth to me
50. I was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
51. I represented on my State Bar application in Illinois that I never used
any other name other than Barack Hussein Obama.
52. I went by the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.
53. My Indonesian school records are under the name of Barry Soetoro.
54. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when admitted to
the State Bar of Illinois to practice Law.
I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when I was Sworn
into my United States Senate Office.
I hold dual citizenship with at least one other Country besides the United
States of America.


DNC - Admitted:

1. The DNC nominated Barrack Hussein Obama as the Democratic
Nominee for President.

2. The DNC has not vetted Barrack Hussein Obama.

The DNC did not have a background check performed on Barrack Hussein
Obama.

The DNC did not verify Barrack Hussein Obama's eligibility to serve as
President of the United States.

5. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.

6. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama is not a "natural born" United
States citizen.

7. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was not born in Hawaii.

The DNC admits they have not inquired into Barrack Hussein
Obama's citizenship status.

The DNC admits they have a duty to properly vette the Democratic
Nominee for President.

The DNC admits Lolo Soetoro, M.A., an Indonesian citizen adopted
Barrack Hussein Obama.

The DNC admits the Credentials Committee has been aware of this
lawsuit since August 22, 2008 as the lawsuit was faxed to
our Washington D.C. Office on August 22, 2008.

The DNC admits their Credentials Committee failed to verify and/or
inquire into the credentials of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as
the President of the United States.

The DNC admits their Credential Committee's Report failed to address the
issues of Barack Hussein Obama's ineligibility to serve as President
of the United States.

The DNC admits Howard Dean, Chair Person has and had knowledge
Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and ineligible to serve as
the President of the United States.

15. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all Democratic citizens of the United
States have been personally injured as a result of not having a qualified
Democratic Presidential Nominee to cast their votes upon.

The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a
Constitutional Right to vote for the President of the United States and
to have two (2) qualified candidates of which to choose from.

The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a
Constitutional right to have a properly vetted Democratic Presidential
Nominee of which to cast their vote.

The DNC admits an FBI background check is not performed on the
Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidates.

The DNC admits the United States Constitution does not allow for a
Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that
person is a "natural born" United States citizen.

The DNC admits they collected donations on behalf of Barack Hussein
Obama for his Presidential campaign.

The DNC admits Plaintiff and Democratic citizens donated money based
on false representations that Barack Hussein Obama was qualified to
serve as the President of the United States.

The DNC admits if Barack Hussein Obama is elected as President and
allowed to serve as President of the United States in violation of
our Constitution, it will create a Constitutional crisis.

The DNC admits Barack Hussein Obama took an Oath to uphold the
United States Constitution.

The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a "natural born" citizen to
serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff's rights to
due process of law in violation of the United States Constitution.

The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a "natural born" citizen to
serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff's rights to
Equal Protection of the laws in violation of the United States
Constitution.

The DNC admits the function of the DNC is to secure a Democratic
Presidential Candidate who will protect Democratic citizen's interests,
fight for their equal opportunities and fight for justice for all Americans.

The DNC admits the Democratic National Committee has been promoting
Barack Hussein Obama's Presidential election knowing he was
ineligible to serve as President of the United States.


Our website obamacrimes.com now has 50.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website ­ and forward to your local newspapers, radio and TV stations.

Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, "we" the people, are heading to a "Constitutional Crisis" if this case is not resolved forthwith.
* * For copies of all Court Pleadings, go to

obamacrimes.com


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Devvy Kidd

Last night a major announcement: Obama is taking a few days to hurry to Hawaii. His grand mother is sick. The media has zero details on this illness or why Obama has to drop his campaign plans and run to Hawaii.

This is the latest from Phil on his lawsuit re Obama's birth certificate --- a Hawaiian one.

I absolutely wish no ill will towards Obama's grandmother, but it sure it seems like a huge coincidence considering the timing of Phil's release. If I lived in Honolulu where the State Department of Health issues birth certs, I'd be camped out there just to see who shows up in the next few days....maybe Michael Signator.

This press release should be taken or faxed TODAY to every Secretary of State of the Union with a polite demand that Obama be declared ineligible to appear on the ballot.

If you have a radio show, I hope you will air this press release.

FAX it to your state rep and state senator.

FAX it to your local county clerk with a short letter letting him/her know Obama cannot be an eligible candidate on election day because - include the legal definiton of 'request for admissions.'

I will do mine this morning.

If we the people flood all of the above -- by the MILLIONS - we can make the volanco erupt and the hell with FAUX News and all the rest.

Phil has done all this work, we need to back up his efforts. We can get Obama off the ballot.

For those of you who don't what Request for Admissions means in Phil's press release:

http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/E92D773
B-2002-4F98-A3FBA39DF0E60C5D/alpha/R/

request for admission

A discovery procedure,
(http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term ... C5D/alpha/
R/definition.cfm/term/F6B35735-B249-4124-9D74F72F73665F34)
authorized by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the court rules of many states, in which one
(http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term ... 8-A3FBA39D
F0E60C5D/alpha/R/definition.cfm/term/B78DCAAE-AE32-4004-A4912C2F837FFD37)
party asks an opposing party to admit that certain facts are true. If the opponent admits the facts or fails to respond in a timely manner, the facts will be deemed true for purposes of trial. A request for admission is called a "request to admit" in many states.
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Wino you know wrote:President Bush will start a war with Mexico, and the loser gets California.
LOL

Replay the war between the States. Brother against Brother.
(D'y know how many non-citizens are enlisted right now?)

Still, it'd be good to watch.
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Post by East Texas Parrothead »

Here's the birth certificate on the website ....

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bravedave wrote:
Wino you know wrote:President Bush will start a war with Mexico, and the loser gets California.
LOL

Replay the war between the States. Brother against Brother.
(D'y know how many non-citizens are enlisted right now?)

Still, it'd be good to watch.

Hey! California as a NATION is like the 8th largest producer of GNP in the World. And THAT does not even count the medical marijuana grown and sold 8)
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Post by East Texas Parrothead »

Here's a link to a Saturday article in the Honolulu Advisor ...

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/artic ... LNEWSFRONT

And a link to factcheck.org's take from this summer ...

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html
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Tell you what: Cali becomes a sovereign under Mexican protectorate.
New York gets sold to the Japanese for $24 in shells and blankets.
Texas becomes their own kingdom (just 'cuz they wanna).
And Florida secedes to join Cuba as a non-socialist, lottery-funded, neo-agrarian retirement community. (Jai-alai rights TBD).
North Dakota really really likes us, but kinda wants to be with Canada. (I saw it in a note to her best friend's best friend).
And Delaware can survive on its own, like Lichteinstein.

Yo, Garry J: got any room left in Iowa?
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I'm no fan of most internet bloggers -- at least not those who try to pass themselves off as "real" reporters. Who checks their facts? What are their credentials? What expertise do they have in the subject matter? Anybody with a keyboard and a modem can write whatever they want, with few repercussions. While some try to discredit the "liberal media", I don't even want to imagine living somewhere without freedom of the press. Give me a journalist that learned how to type on a manual typewriter, gets their information from multiple sources and paid their dues by writing obits any day. Reading something on the internet and repeating it in your blog doesn't make you a reporter.

"If your mother says she loves you, check it out." I urge everybody that reads anything on the internet to heed that advice.



(full disclosure: I have a degree in journalism, and I don't blog.)
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Post by Wino you know »

bravedave wrote:Tell you what: Cali becomes a sovereign under Mexican protectorate.
New York gets sold to the Japanese for $24 in shells and blankets.
Texas becomes their own kingdom (just 'cuz they wanna).
And Florida secedes to join Cuba as a non-socialist, lottery-funded, neo-agrarian retirement community. (Jai-alai rights TBD).
North Dakota really really likes us, but kinda wants to be with Canada. (I saw it in a note to her best friend's best friend).
And Delaware can survive on its own, like Lichteinstein.

Yo, Garry J: got any room left in Iowa?
LOTS of room here.
Everyone's left for California, Senor.
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chippewa wrote:I'm no fan of most internet bloggers -- at least not those who try to pass themselves off as "real" reporters. Who checks their facts? What are their credentials? What expertise do they have in the subject matter? Anybody with a keyboard and a modem can write whatever they want, with few repercussions. While some try to discredit the "liberal media", I don't even want to imagine living somewhere without freedom of the press. Give me a journalist that learned how to type on a manual typewriter, gets their information from multiple sources and paid their dues by writing obits any day. Reading something on the internet and repeating it in your blog doesn't make you a reporter.

"If your mother says she loves you, check it out." I urge everybody that reads anything on the internet to heed that advice.



(full disclosure: I have a degree in journalism, and I don't blog.)

Are you refering to the elite liberal media or just the liberal media whn you make those comments? :D
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Tequila Revenge wrote:
chippewa wrote:I'm no fan of most internet bloggers -- at least not those who try to pass themselves off as "real" reporters. Who checks their facts? What are their credentials? What expertise do they have in the subject matter? Anybody with a keyboard and a modem can write whatever they want, with few repercussions. While some try to discredit the "liberal media", I don't even want to imagine living somewhere without freedom of the press. Give me a journalist that learned how to type on a manual typewriter, gets their information from multiple sources and paid their dues by writing obits any day. Reading something on the internet and repeating it in your blog doesn't make you a reporter.

"If your mother says she loves you, check it out." I urge everybody that reads anything on the internet to heed that advice.



(full disclosure: I have a degree in journalism, and I don't blog.)

Are you refering to the elite liberal media or just the liberal media whn you make those comments? :D
Yes. And yes. :lol:
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chippewa wrote:
Tequila Revenge wrote:
chippewa wrote:I'm no fan of most internet bloggers -- at least not those who try to pass themselves off as "real" reporters. Who checks their facts? What are their credentials? What expertise do they have in the subject matter? Anybody with a keyboard and a modem can write whatever they want, with few repercussions. While some try to discredit the "liberal media", I don't even want to imagine living somewhere without freedom of the press. Give me a journalist that learned how to type on a manual typewriter, gets their information from multiple sources and paid their dues by writing obits any day. Reading something on the internet and repeating it in your blog doesn't make you a reporter.

"If your mother says she loves you, check it out." I urge everybody that reads anything on the internet to heed that advice.



(full disclosure: I have a degree in journalism, and I don't blog.)

Are you refering to the elite liberal media or just the liberal media whn you make those comments? :D
Yes. And yes. :lol:
Good. Glad we're on the same page :lol: :lol:
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Is Philly's Bulletin, "elite liberal media," or simply the liberal media? WHo exactly is the drive by media? No one seems to stand up for them these days. It's just not fair.

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cf ... 6361&rfi=8


Inside Today's Bulletin
A Closer Look At The Birth Certificate By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
10/21/2008
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One of the most intense allegations of the ongoing lawsuit against Sen. Barack Obama alleging ineligibility for the presidency is whether or not Mr. Obama can produce his birth certificate.

If Mr. Obama were to produce his birth certificate, it would lay the entire question to rest. It would prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the U.S. government officially recognizes Mr. Obama's citizenship. The Obama campaign says that it has already produced this document, a scanned copy of which is available at the campaign's "Fight the Smears" Web site.

One point critics of Mr. Obama have made is the fact that the document posted is not, in fact, a birth certificate. It is a birth certification, which is a computer-generated printout of a birth record. A certification is a cheap print-off for people who have lost their original birth certificates. For most people, there is little practical difference between a certificate of live birth and a certification of live birth, although the certification requires extra verification when being used like a birth certificate.

Because of the tenuous nature of identifying a certification of birth as genuine, it requires an embossed seal and authoritative signature. The low-resolution scan available on the Obama campaign Web site appears to have neither of those. The ink from a date stamp, "June 6, 2007," is visible clearly, but it appears that the document does not have a seal or signature. The campaign only scanned the front of the document.

Without the seal and signature, the document on the Obama Web site lacks legal weight, and does not count as representing the official birth record of Mr. Obama.

Philip Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, has filed suit against Mr. Obama, alleging that he is not legally qualified to serve as president. He has indicated that if Mr. Obama were to produce certified documents proving that he is a natural born citizen, he will withdraw his case.

Mr. Berg maintains that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, but others wonder if there are more reasons why Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee have not laid the question to rest by releasing the documents. Some think that there may be embarrassing information about Mr. Obama that could be inferred from the papers.

The original birth certificate would normally have an entry for religion, and many suppose he would have been listed as Muslim, an image Mr. Obama has worked hard to distance himself from. Others think it might have shown that his parents were not legally married, even though Mr. Obama contends that his parents were married in good faith before separating upon discovering his father had never divorced his last wife.

The Obama campaign says that the idea that Mr. Obama is not natural born is preposterous and cites the certification of birth as an example. But until a physical and verifiable document is produced for their critics, the lawsuit is expected to continue.
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Wino you know wrote:
jackiesic wrote:There's potentially a VERY BIG story that's going to break either tonight or tomorrow. Stay tuned folks.
President Bush will start a war with Mexico, and the loser gets California.
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If this happens we are at a serious disadvantage as many of their soldiers have already gotten behind enemy lines and cloaked themselves into the low wage workforce - some have trained in slaughter houses across our nation and wield knives while doing dishes at restaurant chains. They could poison our food supply as they harvest or cook most of it. We'd be doomed. I hope Mexicao does not realize this.
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ummmmmm........ It's Hillary's fault? A Democrat is trying to take Obama down? Seriously?

WHERE IS OBAMA'S?

To this date, Barack Obama has refused - or been unable -to produce an authentic birth certificate that attests to the fact he is an American-born citizen. He has had more than the two-years of campaigning for the presidency of the United States to do this, but failed.

Why is this important? Because the Constitution of the United States expressly forbids anyone born on foreign soil to run for the highest office in our land!

You would think that Obama would have volunteered the "proof" of his eligibility within a nanosecond of entering the race. But here we are, less than two weeks away from the election, and Americans still don't know if Obama is an American!

While Obama's camp submitted a supposedly authentic birth certificate to the far-left blog Daily Kos, it was found to have been a photo-shopped version of the birth certificate of his half-sister, who was actually born in Hawaii, as Obama claims he was.

While this glaring omission in Obama's eligibility to become the most powerful man on earth mystified some and rankled others, a few people - clearly alarmed at what they considered a stealth candidate's attempt to dance his way around the Constitution and venture into the realm of criminality- took action.

SLEUTH #1

The first sleuth was lawyer Philip J. Berg, a Democrat from Pennsylvania and an undisguised Hillary fan.Last August, Berg - a former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania and one-time candidate for both governor and senator -filed a lawsuit in Federal Court (Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083) seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction against Obama, alleging that the first-term Illinois senator did not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States.



CLICK THIS->RELATED BIRTH CERTIFICATE EXAMINATIONS LINK

Berg's suit was based on Obama's failure to answer satisfactorily the question of where he was born. Was it in Hawaii, Kenya, or Indonesia? Was his legal name Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro (his stepfather's surname), Barry Obama, Barack Dunham (his maternal grandparents' surname), or Barry Dunham?

Among the other questions Berg raised were the authenticity of the name Obama used on his Illinois Bar Application and his possible allegiance to other countries.

Details of the case, including direct quotations, are found
on Berg's website: http://www.obamacrimes.com/.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Senator Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg said. "He clearly shows a conscience of guilt by his actions in using the forged birth certificate and the lies he's told to cover his loss of citizenship. We believe he...supported this belief by his actions in hiding his secret, in that he failed to regain his citizenship and used documents to further his position as a natural born citizen...His very acts prove he knew he was no longer a natural born citizen. We believe he knew he was defrauding the country or else why use the forged birth certificate of his half sister?...If the DNC officers and/or leaders had performed one ounce of due diligence, we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament...from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship through an oath of allegiance at age eighteen [18] as prescribed by Constitutional laws!"

The net result of Berg's efforts was that, on September 9, both Obama and the Democratic National Committee filed a joint motion for a Protective Order to Stay Discovery pending a decision on the Motion to Dismiss his lawsuit. In other words, to make Berg's lawsuit go away!

Berg said he was "outraged, as this is another attempt to hide the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is qualified to be President." The joint motion, Berg asserted, was a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President. He said it is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Simply stated, Obama "is unable to produce a certified copy of his Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist."

An e-mail friend of mine, a lawyer, stated: "What has boggled my mind about this case is that Berg simply waited for a court order to compel the production of the birth certificate, when he could just as easily have served a subpoena on the Hawaii County Clerk or County Recorder - or whoever is the custodian of records in Hawaii - to produce the original birth certificate for examination by an expert forensic-document examiner to produce certified copies to the Court, the Plaintiff, and the Defendants, which would have shifted the burden to Obama to quash the subpoena - and if he filed a motion to quash the subpoena to produce his own birth certificate, that would sure as hell tell us that he has a lot to hide."
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Why would the block discovery? Why wouldn't they want to 100% clear things up?


http://www.wptv.com/news/local/story.as ... f8d0c717c4


WEST PALM BEACH, FL -- It's been Internet gossip for months. Is Barack Obama a U.S. citizen?

Nonetheless an attorney in Philadelphia, Philip Berg, filed a lawsuit claiming Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian man. Berg says Obama failed to take an oath of allegiance when he turned 18.

Obama has attempted to silence any critics by producing a birth certificate from Hawaii, proving he was born there in 1961. Berg however is demanding an original, and not a copy from the Obama camp.

Obama's team filed a motion to dismiss Berg's lawsuit, but they also made a motion to block discovery.

Brian Smith is a West Palm Beach attorney registered as an Independent, that has wrote about this issue from a legal standpoint on his blog.

"The Obama camp and Democratic National Committee responded to the lawsuit by filing a motion to dismiss, but they never responded to the request for admissions."

Berg is now arguing because Obama's camp is refusing to produce an original birth certificate copy in discovery, his allegations are essentially true.

"Wednesday he filed a motion for summary judgment, or a judgment in his favor, as a matter of law, because they essentially admitted those allegations. That from a legal perspective is huge," says Smith.

This is the third lawsuit that's been filed about Obama's citizenship, meaning the courts will have to decide how to move forward. A Washington man, Steven Marquis, is suing the Washington Secretary of State, demanding that he verify Obama's citizenship status before the election.

In Honolulu, Andy Martin filed a lawsuit on October 17th, to get the Hawaiin Department of Health to release Obama's birth certificates. Martin also wants to see an original birth certificate, and not a 'copy.'

Smith says under Hawaiin law birth certificates are considered private.

Meanwhile, Judge R. Barclay Surrick is hearing Berg's case in Pennsylvania. The suit was filed on August 21st, but the judge has not made any ruling.

What is certain is that this issue doesn't seem to be going away.

On-line it has a rabid and contentious following from both sides.

Even in the real world, Dr. Watson tells us whenever he speaks publicly, the issue always pops up.

"At this point I think Obama should answer the question. In politics, perception is reality and as long as these e-mails are running wild with conspiracy theories, I think he needs to address it," says Watson.
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mjeischen wrote:Thanks but amazingly and I'm still blinded by the thought Jack was right.

The nice thing is people are really passionate about this election and I think thats a positive. Something has inspired people to react when sitting idly by was never supposed to be an option.
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I wonder if SNL will have a skit or twenty about Obama's citizenship issues the week :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I question all of it. It's no where to be found anywhere in the news. It's given little to no credibility because this loon has taken exception with many high profile politicians . . . in fact he sued the Bush Administration for their involvement in 9/11 and he sued Florida over the election results of Bush vs. Gore and he asked Supreme Court justices to step down due to a ruling he didn't agree with in regards to that as well.

This is like saying Jack Kervorkian is a solid option as a primary care physician. Yes he is a Dr as Berg is a lawyer but not a socially accepted one.
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mjeischen wrote:I question all of it. It's no where to be found anywhere in the news. It's given little to no credibility because this loon has taken exception with many high profile politicians . . . in fact he sued the Bush Administration for their involvement in 9/11 and he sued Florida over the election results of Bush vs. Gore and he asked Supreme Court justices to step down due to a ruling he didn't agree with in regards to that as well.

This is like saying Jack Kervorkian is a solid option as a primary care physician. Yes he is a Dr as Berg is a lawyer but not a socially accepted one.
I'm waiting for Colbert to sort things out and tell us what's REALLY going on. 8)
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