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East Texas Parrothead wrote:
Frank4 wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Assassination plot targeting Obama disrupted
By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

:-? :-?
Sick. As far as we have come as a society, this just proves we still have a long way to go. :(
News is reporting the two met on the internet and both have a history of mental illness. Am glad they caught these guys ... they're saying how seriously the secret service is taking their responsibility ....

Wonder if they're watching this thread. :D :D :D
Their statement to law officials includes:
"We wanted to steal a car, drive it at Obama as fast as possible, shooting at him
as far and fast as we could, while wearing white tuxedoes and top hats!" :o :lol:

one thing's for sure... the nut jobs are quickly coming out of the woodwork 8) :-? :-?
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East Texas Parrothead wrote:
Frank4 wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...and the hits just keep coming.
Ted Stevens finally brought down. I wonder if Alaskans will still re-elect him...:roll:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/stevens_tria ... gYPXdh24cA
I did not realize that he was up for re-election. I thought if he had to resign, Palin was going to appoint herself has his replacement. She'd be nothing if not entertaining in the Senate Chamber. :D
She'd go in thinking she was in charge ... and those good ole' boys would give her a lower 48 schooling in a hurry. :D
The carriage is about to change back into a pumpkin, sweetheart 8) :roll:
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
Frank4 wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Assassination plot targeting Obama disrupted
By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

:-? :-?
Sick. As far as we have come as a society, this just proves we still have a long way to go. :(
News is reporting the two met on the internet and both have a history of mental illness. Am glad they caught these guys ... they're saying how seriously the secret service is taking their responsibility ....

Wonder if they're watching this thread. :D :D :D
Their statement to law officials includes:
"We wanted to steal a car, drive it at Obama as fast as possible, shooting at him
as far and fast as we could, while wearing white tuxedoes and top hats!" :o :lol:

one thing's for sure... the nut jobs are quickly coming out of the woodwork 8) :-? :-?

I have a feeling a lot more of them will be coming out come November 5th. Which is sort of scary in and of itself. :-?
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Frank4 wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Assassination plot targeting Obama disrupted
By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

:-? :-?
Sick. As far as we have come as a society, this just proves we still have a long way to go. :(
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bravedave wrote:
Frank4 wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Assassination plot targeting Obama disrupted
By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

:-? :-?
Sick. As far as we have come as a society, this just proves we still have a long way to go. :(
The measure of our society cannot be found in the sick minds of two individuals, but rather in the way we as a society treat them.
While I truly understand what you are saying, I often think that society has to draw a line somewhere with our handling of those with sick minds.

There are simply too many people out there with diagnosed mental illnesses that can be treated with medication who refuse to take the meds. Then they go completely wacko and go on a killing spree because the voices in their head told them to. It's a double edged sword - you really can't force someone to take meds, yet some should really be forced to.
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Lightning Bolt wrote: See the sig line below, and have a little hope :)
I have hope....hope that if he's elected, things don't turn out as badly as I think they will. Too many questions left unanswered.......or answered merely with a smile & a redirection. I NEVER thought I'd see someone who could deflect criticism and maneuver politically more than the Clintons. Shows what I get for thinking.
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Post by diverg »

An honest question for those of you supportting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
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diverg wrote:An honest question for those of you supportting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
Honestly?

No more than Republicans will unite behind Obama if he is elected. I'm sure you will have some that will but not 100% will.
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diverg wrote:An honest question for those of you supportting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
I don't know ... I would like to think they would. I think it depends on what happens next Tuesday ... if there is another Florida 2000, they won't. If it's a clear victory, maybe they will. I think the country is tired of the angry politics of division, so maybe the Dems will listen to the voters.
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ph4ever wrote:
bravedave wrote:
Frank4 wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Assassination plot targeting Obama disrupted
By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The ATF says it has broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree.

In court records unsealed Monday, agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target an unnamed by predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads.

:-? :-?
Sick. As far as we have come as a society, this just proves we still have a long way to go. :(
The measure of our society cannot be found in the sick minds of two individuals, but rather in the way we as a society treat them.
While I truly understand what you are saying, I often think that society has to draw a line somewhere with our handling of those with sick minds.

There are simply too many people out there with diagnosed mental illnesses that can be treated with medication who refuse to take the meds. Then they go completely wacko and go on a killing spree because the voices in their head told them to. It's a double edged sword - you really can't force someone to take meds, yet some should really be forced to.
(Well, just between you, me, and the fencepost: these guys oughts be horsewhipped. I'm just sayin' that it shouldn't be on HBO. Preserve their right to privacy, an' all... )
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East Texas Parrothead wrote:
diverg wrote:An honest question for those of you supporting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
I don't know ... I would like to think they would. I think it depends on what happens next Tuesday ... if there is another Florida 2000, they won't. If it's a clear victory, maybe they will. I think the country is tired of the angry politics of division, so maybe the Dems will listen to the voters.
I think that what is going on with the multi-state ACORN controversy may very well have a huge impact, unfortunately. :-?
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SMLCHNG wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
diverg wrote:An honest question for those of you supporting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
I don't know ... I would like to think they would. I think it depends on what happens next Tuesday ... if there is another Florida 2000, they won't. If it's a clear victory, maybe they will. I think the country is tired of the angry politics of division, so maybe the Dems will listen to the voters.
I think that what is going on with the multi-state ACORN controversy may very well have a huge impact, unfortunately. :-?
And, thousands of voters being purged from the records won't help, either. :-?

I'm just glad I live in a small town where I know the people who take my ballot. :D
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East Texas Parrothead wrote:
diverg wrote:An honest question for those of you supportting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
I don't know ... I would like to think they would. I think it depends on what happens next Tuesday ... if there is another Florida 2000, they won't. If it's a clear victory, maybe they will. I think the country is tired of the angry politics of division, so maybe the Dems will listen to the voters.
If McCain wins this election, I don't think you will see Democratic politicians "unite behind McCain". I wouldn't expect them to. That isn't their job.

On the contrary, if McCain decided to keep troops fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan for another twenty years to "finish the job" I would expect the Democrats to forcefully oppose such a policy.

If McCain decided that the national interest would be served by invading Iran or Syria, I would expect the Democrats to forcefully oppose such a policy.

If McCain promoted the idea (as Bush did) that 'Intelligent Design' should be taught in science classrooms across the nation, I would expect Democrats to forcefully oppose such a policy.

If McCain worked to facilitate the reversal of Roe v Wade I would expect the Democrats to forcefully oppose him.

I could go on, but I think you get the idea. The Democrats, except for a few 'mavericks' like Barack Obama and Howard Dean, all united behind George W. Bush when he made the call to invade Iraq, misled by fabricated evidence it must be said. I would hope they wouldn't once again mistakenly place their trust in the integrity of a Republican president.

Hopefully, we won't have to face this possibility after the election. Hopefully Obama will win big, bring about the 'change' that he has talked about, and simultaneously prove the 'chicken littles' wrong about his agenda.
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flyboy55 wrote: If McCain wins this election, I don't think you will see Democratic politicians "unite behind McCain". I wouldn't expect them to. That isn't their job.
That right there, IMHO, is part of what is wrong with our politicians. They forget what their JOB is.. and WAY to much 'infighting'.. :-? :-?
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East Texas Parrothead wrote:
diverg wrote:An honest question for those of you supportting Obama. If he doesn't win the election what do you think is going to happen? Do you really believe that democratic politicians will unite behind McCain?
I don't know ... I would like to think they would. I think it depends on what happens next Tuesday ... if there is another Florida 2000, they won't. If it's a clear victory, maybe they will. I think the country is tired of the angry politics of division, so maybe the Dems will listen to the voters.
Right now, as it stands, McCain would be facing a huge opposition in both houses of Congress.
By next Tuesday night, he could very well be up against a SUPER-MAJORITY.
Then, they could literally stop him in his tracks on EVERY SINGLE BILL he tries to push through.
I think that would (but check me) be unprecedented.

McCain would be forced to play WAY over to the left to get anything done at all...or nothing happens from the Oval Office at all!
Given the wave against partisanship ... and the UNITY that the country so desperately needs, I don't see the voters choosing the McCain option.

Bush and his class just left too much wreckage...
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Lightning Bolt wrote: Right now, as it stands, McCain would be facing a huge opposition in both houses of Congress.
By next Tuesday night, he could very well be up against a SUPER-MAJORITY.
Then, they could literally stop him in his tracks on EVERY SINGLE BILL he tries to push through.
I think that would (but check me) be unprecedented.

McCain would be forced to play over to the left to get anything done at all.
Given the wave of anti-partisanship that the country so desperately needs, I don't see the voters choosing that option.
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Once again. Sad. The left/right.... conservative/liberal.... Democratic/Republican


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Lightning Bolt wrote:McCain would be forced to play WAY over to the left to get anything done at all...or nothing happens from the Oval Office at all!
Given the wave against partisanship ... and the UNITY that the country so desperately needs, I don't see the voters choosing the McCain option.
Let me make sure that I understand here: In order to have unity in the country, McCain would have to abandon his principles and go along with the beliefs of a Democratic congress? There's no chance of the democratic congress abandoning some of their beliefs and doing the right thing for the country?
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Post by Martonian »

If Obama wins there will be 30% of Americans (essentially those who still approve of the job that President Bush is doing) who will never support Obama... There are 10% that think he's a Muslim and/or terrorist. People like Sean Hannity and his followers will criticize everything he does, no matter how much Obama tries to unite.
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Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:McCain would be forced to play WAY over to the left to get anything done at all...or nothing happens from the Oval Office at all!
Given the wave against partisanship ... and the UNITY that the country so desperately needs, I don't see the voters choosing the McCain option.
Let me make sure that I understand here: In order to have unity in the country, McCain would have to abandon his principles and go along with the beliefs of a Democratic congress? There's no chance of the democratic congress abandoning some of their beliefs and doing the right thing for the country?
You're making the assumption that McCain's policies are the right thing for the country. :lol:
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Martonian wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:McCain would be forced to play WAY over to the left to get anything done at all...or nothing happens from the Oval Office at all!
Given the wave against partisanship ... and the UNITY that the country so desperately needs, I don't see the voters choosing the McCain option.
Let me make sure that I understand here: In order to have unity in the country, McCain would have to abandon his principles and go along with the beliefs of a Democratic congress? There's no chance of the democratic congress abandoning some of their beliefs and doing the right thing for the country?
You're making the assumption that McCain's policies are the right thing for the country. :lol:
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