Seriously, it's time to make peace with the decision of the electorate and move forward.
Back on topic.... can't say that I'm very optimistic either, though. I'm worried that when the crisis Biden predicted comes along, the response won't be emphatic enough to make the terrorists think twice before trying it again.
However... it's possible that President Obama DOES have the "spine of steel" Biden claims, and things will be ok. It's just too early to know.
Either way, for the next four years, good or bad, he's OUR president and will have my support.
May God Bless America. May God Guide President Barack Obama. May God Keep and Protect Us All.
"How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?" ~ Satchel Paige
I am 52 years old. When I was born, the south was 100% segregated. In my hometown of Chicago, I never saw a person of color in the box seats of Wrigley Field, at a Bears game or any of the movie theatres or restaurants we frequented. My elementary school, junior high and high school never had a black person. In my school district, minority meant you were not jewish,
I grew up in Camelot, We believed in JFK and "Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You....", the son of a Catholic Kennedy Democrat Mom and a Dad who kept his politics to himself. In fact it was not until I was in college that I came to know my Dad had voted republican in every post war election, except for Goldwater. Mom taught us that the truths we hold as self evident did not only mean if "they look like us".
My Mom volunteered at a settlement house in one of the poorer neighborhoods of Chicago for almost 50 years. When we were old enough to walk we were put to tasks at rummage sales, food pantries and bake sales. My first job was in the day care center.
We watched Dr King and were moved. We watched Chicago and Detroit and Newark burn and were filled with fear. We read of atrocities against our fellow man and were sickened. We lived for the hope of a changed society, only to have it dashed by the bullets that took Dr King and Bobby Kennedy. My first college roommate was a black man and I was called "N**** Lover" on more ocassions than I care to remember.
I was born just nine years after Jackie Robinson and 19 years before Frank Robinson managed the Indians.
I cannot do anything but sit back and look in wonder at where we have come, true, it took way too long. Am I optimistic? hell yeah I am. I did not believe that this country would elect a black man in my lifetime. I have grown old and cynical over the years, but the results of yesterday have let me see that ray of hope. It is time for parties to stop being the focal point, for individuals to stop trying to be above the common good. We as Amercians can do one of two things. Take the ball and run and reinvent ourselves or we can hunker down in the artifical trenches created between the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" by party politics. As both candidates very eloquently said last night.....
And Now The Work Begins
"Boat drinks, waitress we........nevermind"
He ain't wrong he's just different
but his pride won't let him do things to make you think he's right
Cubbie Bear wrote:I am 52 years old. When I was born, the south was 100% segregated. In my hometown of Chicago, I never saw a person of color in the box seats of Wrigley Field, at a Bears game or any of the movie theatres or restaurants we frequented. My elementary school, junior high and high school never had a black person. In my school district, minority meant you were not jewish,
I grew up in Camelot, We believed in JFK and "Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You....", the son of a Catholic Kennedy Democrat Mom and a Dad who kept his politics to himself. In fact it was not until I was in college that I came to know my Dad had voted republican in every post war election, except for Goldwater. Mom taught us that the truths we hold as self evident did not only mean if "they look like us".
My Mom volunteered at a settlement house in one of the poorer neighborhoods of Chicago for almost 50 years. When we were old enough to walk we were put to tasks at rummage sales, food pantries and bake sales. My first job was in the day care center.
We watched Dr King and were moved. We watched Chicago and Detroit and Newark burn and were filled with fear. We read of atrocities against our fellow man and were sickened. We lived for the hope of a changed society, only to have it dashed by the bullets that took Dr King and Bobby Kennedy. My first college roommate was a black man and I was called "N**** Lover" on more ocassions than I care to remember.
I was born just nine years after Jackie Robinson and 19 years before Frank Robinson managed the Indians.
I cannot do anything but sit back and look in wonder at where we have come, true, it took way too long. Am I optimistic? hell yeah I am. I did not believe that this country would elect a black man in my lifetime. I have grown old and cynical over the years, but the results of yesterday have let me see that ray of hope. It is time for parties to stop being the focal point, for individuals to stop trying to be above the common good. We as Amercians can do one of two things. Take the ball and run and reinvent ourselves or we can hunker down in the artifical trenches created between the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" by party politics. As both candidates very eloquently said last night.....
And Now The Work Begins
Clap, Clap....very well said Cubbie......
I thank the Lord for the people I have found
-Elton John
I haven't voted in this thread's poll, as " too early to tell" wasn't an option. I didn't support Obama, nor did I vote for him. However, it is my hope his talk of unifying the country wasn't just empty words, and he'll reach out to the 46% that didn't vote for him. If he does, he should succeed in unifying the country and deserve a second term. I sincerely hope he succeeds, as I'm sick of the partisan politics that have divided this country for far too long.
I posted a similar post in the "Game over for McCain" thread and got ripped for it, let's see how long it takes this time.
C-Dawg wrote:I haven't voted in this thread's poll, as " too early to tell" wasn't an option. I didn't support Obama, nor did I vote for him. However, it is my hope his talk of unifying the country wasn't just empty words, and he'll reach out to the 46% that didn't vote for him. If he does, he should succeed in unifying the country and deserve a second term. I sincerely hope he succeeds, as I'm sick of the partisan politics that have divided this country for far too long.
I posted a similar post in the "Game over for McCain" thread and got ripped for it, let's see how long it takes this time.
How could someone rip on someone else for expressing hope for the future?
You won't get that over here (I hope)
$#@&...only Vegas again?? Padres ...gotta start believin'!Bring on '14 Spring Training!
Lightning Bolt wrote:
Right now, as we stand, the only way to go ....is up.
You don't know how badly I wish that statement was true.
I gather from your response that you sincerely believe that we're on our way down the toilet. It's upsetting to me to think that people believe the majority of us would vote the nation in that direction. On the other hand, many of believe that's what we did in the last couple of elections. So, I suppose anything's possible.
On the contrary....I don't think things are as bad as a lot of people believe they are, and I don't necessarily believe that things ARE going to get worse. I hope that President Obama does a good job. Hopefully, he learns the same lesson Bill Clinton did...govern towards the middle. If he governs based on his past history....we could get a lot worse. I agree with Biden: he's going to be tested. Russia has already started to make noise. I hope and pray that he pulls a Kennedy. JFK was seen as a lightweight, and the USSR decided to test him. Turns out he was a lot tougher than they gave him credit for. I hope Obama is the same.
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I went through the stages of acceptance when it was apparent that McCain was the republican nominee. Things are pretty bad right now. I think we have bottomed out because fuel prices have receded. (Oil runs our economy, despite our government) Things will get better. Hopefully it was enough of a kick in the groin to the Republicans that we get back on track. It's going to be a fun and interesting ride for the next 4 years. I'm actually looking forward to it.
I've had over a full 24 hours to set in. I am glad that Obama won, I am glad John McCain is going back to the senate. I think this campaign brought out the best and worst in both men. I think in the end, they are better for going through what they did.
I missed Camelot with Kennedy and Dr. King was assinated a year before I was born. I saw hope in the eyes of everyone in Grant Park on Tuesday night. Hope is something we have not had in a long time. I feel priveledged to be a part of history
Obama is right-we do have a long road ahead of us. It's not going to be easy. We can do it. We live in the greatest country in the world, we put a man on the moon. There's nothing we can't do...
I thank the Lord for the people I have found
-Elton John
50% of our nation Celebrate all you want and even be glad while the roughly 50% are not so happy.
I have not said anything negative about Obama. I have said I am glad he has won and that our election process worked. You do not see anyone standing up arguing about our election process, like they did during the last election.
For those that want so much unity from a President elect, that never crossed the aisle, and or hate or destest the former adminstration. Why do you think the rest of the 50% should pull together when your side clearly did not?
For those that think or hope Obama should fail, then he takes you and the rest of the country down with him.
How is Obama going to pay George Soros and the far left back for all of their backing and contributions? Do you doubt that he will and what will that do to our economy?
As many have said before, we need to wait and see what Obama does or attempts to do. Clearly his political past marks him in negative ways for many.
America and the world is clearly in trouble. No matter who one wants to blame. The Democrats are clearly at fault for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and for ignoring the Republican warnings for some years. The Repubicans are potentially at fault for not doing a better job about Wallstreet.
Congress and the Senate are clearly at fault for allowing such to happen to our nation. What about Congress and the Senate not passing the $700B bailout the first time around, and then adding all of that pork and then passing it?
Boy, the news from the McCain campaign just keeps getting worse ...
First FOX broke the story about Palin's being a "Hillibilly from Wasilla" and now ABC ... and I understand Newsweek is about to run with a more indepth story ... Newsweek and ABC, I can understand ... but the FOX network reporting this is just something else.
Cubbie Bear wrote:I am 52 years old. When I was born, the south was 100% segregated. In my hometown of Chicago, I never saw a person of color in the box seats of Wrigley Field, at a Bears game or any of the movie theatres or restaurants we frequented. My elementary school, junior high and high school never had a black person. In my school district, minority meant you were not jewish,
I grew up in Camelot, We believed in JFK and "Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You....", the son of a Catholic Kennedy Democrat Mom and a Dad who kept his politics to himself. In fact it was not until I was in college that I came to know my Dad had voted republican in every post war election, except for Goldwater. Mom taught us that the truths we hold as self evident did not only mean if "they look like us".
My Mom volunteered at a settlement house in one of the poorer neighborhoods of Chicago for almost 50 years. When we were old enough to walk we were put to tasks at rummage sales, food pantries and bake sales. My first job was in the day care center.
We watched Dr King and were moved. We watched Chicago and Detroit and Newark burn and were filled with fear. We read of atrocities against our fellow man and were sickened. We lived for the hope of a changed society, only to have it dashed by the bullets that took Dr King and Bobby Kennedy. My first college roommate was a black man and I was called "N**** Lover" on more ocassions than I care to remember.
I was born just nine years after Jackie Robinson and 19 years before Frank Robinson managed the Indians.
I cannot do anything but sit back and look in wonder at where we have come, true, it took way too long. Am I optimistic? hell yeah I am. I did not believe that this country would elect a black man in my lifetime. I have grown old and cynical over the years, but the results of yesterday have let me see that ray of hope. It is time for parties to stop being the focal point, for individuals to stop trying to be above the common good. We as Amercians can do one of two things. Take the ball and run and reinvent ourselves or we can hunker down in the artifical trenches created between the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" by party politics. As both candidates very eloquently said last night.....
And Now The Work Begins
Very well said (((((((((((((((((((CUBBIE))))))))))))))))))))
"While the rest of the species is descended from apes, redheads are descended from cats." Mark Twain
Considering the Dow's most recent tanking - down over 10% since the election - I am NOT optimistic at all. I happen to like capitalism and would prefer not to live in a socialist society. Obama alone may not be that bad ... but put him together with Pelosi and Reid and it looks like SoulMate & I will be kissing our hard-earned retirement account goodbye.
In Boston with... "this caribbean soul I can barely control and Long Island's always here in my heart"
JB - Sag Harbor 11/20/99
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Boy, the news from the McCain campaign just keeps getting worse ...
First FOX broke the story about Palin's being a "Hillibilly from Wasilla" and now ABC ... and I understand Newsweek is about to run with a more indepth story ... Newsweek and ABC, I can understand ... but the FOX network reporting this is just something else.
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Boy, the news from the McCain campaign just keeps getting worse ...
First FOX broke the story about Palin's being a "Hillibilly from Wasilla" and now ABC ... and I understand Newsweek is about to run with a more indepth story ... Newsweek and ABC, I can understand ... but the FOX network reporting this is just something else.
"While the rest of the species is descended from apes, redheads are descended from cats." Mark Twain
