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That has been tossed around here as well, but all of it is basically hearsay from neighbors. I imagine we'll have a tough time actually hearing the truth.Coconuts wrote:I heard on another board that she was an assistant in a fertility clinic, not a psychiatric nurse, but I don't know where the person got that information.
Great comment from CNN though- "The uterus is not a clown car."
From what I remember from my years of fertility treatments, I think they actually implant more than 2 eggs; however, there is a very serious discussion on selective abortion and your willingness to do it if necessary. I believe the reason they do implant more is that even if they do not develop, they add nutrients (or in some way) actually assist the ones that do develope.Brown Eyed Girl wrote:It's all over the news here, since it's not too far away. And in another bit of irony, supposedly this woman is a psychiatric nurse.
And neighbors have reported that at least some of her other 6 kids were conceived via fertility treatments. I've also heard that she had the procedure out of the country. Common practice here is implanting 2 eggs, not 8. I'd like to give this woman a good kick in the head. There's no question this was done for monetary gain, either from companies giving her free stuff, a new house, car, facelift, teeth, college educations for all her kids etc, or some reality TV series. NO company or organization should be subsidizing this family and I will boycott any company that does. I'm sick of people getting rewarded for having litters, while most of the good folks in this world make it as best they can with what they have.
She went to Kaiser when she was 12 weeks along. Why they took her is beyond me, when so many others can't get insurance.
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All the fertility experts I have heard interviewed said the standard NOW is no more than two, simply to avoid the mega multiple birth issues and the ethical/health concerns that result. I guess that is why they think the procedure was done in another country. And if she indeed used in vitro to conceive any of her other children it would lead one to believe that the odds were in her favor for all eggs to develop.MammaBear wrote:From what I remember from my years of fertility treatments, I think they actually implant more than 2 eggs; however, there is a very serious discussion on selective abortion and your willingness to do it if necessary. I believe the reason they do implant more is that even if they do not develop, they add nutrients (or in some way) actually assist the ones that do develope.Brown Eyed Girl wrote:It's all over the news here, since it's not too far away. And in another bit of irony, supposedly this woman is a psychiatric nurse.
She went to Kaiser when she was 12 weeks along. Why they took her is beyond me, when so many others can't get insurance.
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My question would be how many were actually implanted? Normally not all that are implanted develope so perhaps more than 8 were implanted.........
Some people are just so stupid....
Brown Eyed Girl wrote:All the fertility experts I have heard interviewed said the standard NOW is no more than two, simply to avoid the mega multiple birth issues and the ethical/health concerns that result. I guess that is why they think the procedure was done in another country. And if she indeed used in vitro to conceive any of her other children it would lead one to believe that the odds were in her favor for all eggs to develop.MammaBear wrote:From what I remember from my years of fertility treatments, I think they actually implant more than 2 eggs; however, there is a very serious discussion on selective abortion and your willingness to do it if necessary. I believe the reason they do implant more is that even if they do not develop, they add nutrients (or in some way) actually assist the ones that do develope.Brown Eyed Girl wrote:It's all over the news here, since it's not too far away. And in another bit of irony, supposedly this woman is a psychiatric nurse.
She went to Kaiser when she was 12 weeks along. Why they took her is beyond me, when so many others can't get insurance.
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My question would be how many were actually implanted? Normally not all that are implanted develope so perhaps more than 8 were implanted.........
Some people are just so stupid....
And there will be nothing left of Mom......talk about suking you dry.......she's gonna have to supplement. Maybe twins or triplets but not 8. My Momma cat could barely keep up with 6.sunseeker wrote:
and last but not least - she wants to breast feed all the children
I wouldn't be working if I was carrying a litter either.....sunseeker wrote:
She is out of work.
Bet good money it's the taxpayers of California....Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:The news this morning reported she is not married. Who do you think is paying for all her kids?
are these clinic's unregulated? kindalike the platic surgery clinics...for the most part, plastic surgery in some forms is completely unregulated.SchoolGirlHeart wrote:The doctor who impregnated her should be brought up on ethics charges. It's clear this woman has some mental health issues.....
It just doesn't seem at all fair, does it?tikitatas wrote:. . . so many who want babies and can support them remain childless.
That's just it. Life isn't fair.SchoolGirlHeart wrote:It just doesn't seem at all fair, does it?tikitatas wrote:. . . so many who want babies and can support them remain childless.
Thank you, Cate....that's been my thought from the get go.tikitatas wrote:. . . so many who want babies and can support them remain childless.
14 kids conceived via in vitro? Some heads should seriously roll... 
Actually I'm not sure she does, Brad. She's gone from being a nurse to being a tech in most stories. Supposedly she does have a degree in child development, and is pursuing her masters in counseling...which really takes it over the top.Lightning Bolt wrote:That's just it. Life isn't fair.SchoolGirlHeart wrote:It just doesn't seem at all fair, does it?tikitatas wrote:. . . so many who want babies and can support them remain childless.
This woman has a professional license in some field I can't recall at this moment.
apparently she will require no public assistance...
I truly can't imagine it...I'm sure CPS is watching her very closely now.....Brown Eyed Girl wrote:Thank you, Cate....that's been my thought from the get go.tikitatas wrote:. . . so many who want babies and can support them remain childless.
Suz, you're right....it is an unregulated industry. As long as you have the cash (where did she get the money for all those treatments?) there is someone who carry out the procedure according to your demands, ethics be damned.
It's interesting how her mother and father are polar opposites in this situation. Dad appears to be in denial. Mom has had enough. They are obviously overwhelmed. One of the other 6 children is autistic. I can't imagine what will happen with him/her when 8 more babies arrive in the house. Someone should seriously be taking a look at this woman's mental state, this goes beyond "obsessed with having babies".
You'd think so, but I wouldn't bet on it with our current budget situation.Salukulady wrote:I'm sure CPS is watching her very closely now.....Brown Eyed Girl wrote:Thank you, Cate....that's been my thought from the get go.tikitatas wrote:. . . so many who want babies and can support them remain childless.
Suz, you're right....it is an unregulated industry. As long as you have the cash (where did she get the money for all those treatments?) there is someone who carry out the procedure according to your demands, ethics be damned.
It's interesting how her mother and father are polar opposites in this situation. Dad appears to be in denial. Mom has had enough. They are obviously overwhelmed. One of the other 6 children is autistic. I can't imagine what will happen with him/her when 8 more babies arrive in the house. Someone should seriously be taking a look at this woman's mental state, this goes beyond "obsessed with having babies".