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My wifes car is need of some expensive repairs. Due to the age, and amount of miles on it, we have decided to get a "New" used car. I am seriously looking at the Honda Odyssey. I really like Honda and we own an Acura, which after 13 years has never given us a problem. Does anyone out there own one and what is your opinion of them?

I have had 2 of them beware of transmission issues.
Both of them Lasted less than 2 years for me.and less than 25k miles.

My other cars have lasted at least 10 and 100k + miles.

(2003 and 2005) if that helps.

My parents bought their's six years ago and have not had problems and do lots of driving. They bought it for the express purpose of being able to fit all 5 grandkids and spend time with them and it has not let them down. They got the DVD player included for the long drives.

A co-worker also has one and loves it and recommended it to her son for his family and they just bought one.

BUY AMERICAN

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Put the bailout money to good use....

My boss and her wife have two. One is either 2004 or 2005 and has been nothing but trouble and the other is a year newer and hasn't had any issues.

Me, I have a 1987 Jeep Cherokee with 188k miles on it and I replaced the clutch last spring and that is the only major part of the transmission that has had any work. It's the original engine and it is still running strong.

I think that if one gets a good car, regardless of who makes it, one tends to favor that brand and if one gets a lemon, then one can't say enough bad about that brand.

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

Ever owned a Dodge? Also known as "replace transmission every 3000 or so miles?" Now before you yell at me I drive a Chevy Silverado. I'll buy American when it comes to a truck but not a car because quite frankly some of the cars that the US auto makers put out are crap.

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

So is American defined by where the owner of the company resides, who makes the product, or where the parts come from?

Keep in mind, I own two Fords right now and haven't haven't any problems. Nor did I have problems with my Mitsubishi Montero Sport (lease ended), Mitsubishi Diamante (crashed it), my Dodge Stratus (lease ended) or my Plymouth Acclaim (crashed it).

WOW looking back, NONE of the cars (including my current Ford Five Hundred) are still being made by those companies...and Plymouth is also gone. Boy, do I know how to pick 'em.

sarabismom wrote:My wifes car is need of some expensive repairs. Due to the age, and amount of miles on it, we have decided to get a "New" used car. I am seriously looking at the Honda Odyssey. I really like Honda and we own an Acura, which after 13 years has never given us a problem. Does anyone out there own one and what is your opinion of them?

We've got one - bought it last year. Totally love it. I've got 3 kids and hauling them around (and their friends) couldn't be any easier, unless maybe we had a charter bus. We haven't had any problems. The DVD player is great. I didn't noticed any issue with power when I took a road trip from DC to Philly with 4 adults and 3 kids and everyone's stuff.

Off hand I can think of 6 or 7 other families I know that have one. I haven't heard of them complaining about any major problems that I can think of.

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

Maybe if the "American" carmakers weren't so damn greedy... the CEO of Toyota makes like $1 million a year. Ford's CEO makes some outrageous salary like $24 million. Guess which company was profitable last year?

SharkOnLand wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

Maybe if the "American" carmakers weren't so damn greedy... the CEO of Toyota makes like $1 million a year. Ford's CEO makes some outrageous salary like $24 million. Guess which company was profitable last year?

Let's not forget that Mulally uses the company's private jet every weekend to fly home to Seattle. First Class obviously isn't good enough for him.

I have always wanted to "be American, buy American". The first car I bought myself was a Saturn in 1992. When I sold it in 2001, it had 190K miles on it. I bought a used Volvo wagon because we needed a bigger car to fit the dog and my kid, because we got a good deal on it and because of Volvo's reputation. My wife bought a Saturn in 1997 and sold it in 2007 (with ~120K) because we needed a big car for the kids and the dog. We looked at a lot of the mini-vans (Kia, Honda, Chrysler) and chose Honda because it had the best track record for maintenance and the best value overall.

I guess my point is I'll buy American if it's a good deal and isn't a piece of crap. I just felt that for our minivan purchase, the intersection of those two points was the null set. Plus, I wanted to say I also bought a Saturn. And I loved mine. SC (2 door), alloy wheels, teal, sunroof, spoiler, 5 speed, 30 mpg, very loud after-market stereo (alpine head unbit with a mtx amp), could do 100mph, excellent handling....I miss that car.

Any company can produce a lemon and I am sure every company has produced at least some over the years.

The UAW has been notorious for some of the crap coming out of Detroit. Pretty much the UAW members are nearly impossible to fire.
So a lot of the employees are just there and of not much real use, and you get what made.

All of the "Top Three" and the UAW, could learn a lot from Lee Iacocca or the airline industry restructuring. One thing for sure, some major changes must be made, soon. If not all of them deserve to go away and be replaced.

I agree with the question raised elsewhere: How does one buy American? Buying an American product made overseas, built by whatever country's workers? Or buying a foreign manufactuer product made here in the States and made by US workers? As far as parts go......good luck on deciding that issue, and how much you want to spend.

Almost everything coming out of Detroit has many parts made or assembled elsewhere, and supplied to the factory. One example, is to decide whether to buy the factory radio/cd player and speakers, or save money and go with an aftermarket system that is better quality at less cost, after you buy the car.

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

So is American defined by where the owner of the company resides, who makes the product, or where the parts come from?

Keep in mind, I own two Fords right now and haven't haven't any problems. Nor did I have problems with my Mitsubishi Montero Sport (lease ended), Mitsubishi Diamante (crashed it), my Dodge Stratus (lease ended) or my Plymouth Acclaim (crashed it).

WOW looking back, NONE of the cars (including my current Ford Five Hundred) are still being made by those companies...and Plymouth is also gone. Boy, do I know how to pick 'em.

and how not to keep them on the road about half the time.

We had a 2002 Odyssey and had transmission problems from the beginning - we fought and they replaced the transmission and gave us an extended warranty. WE didn't have anymore problems(They have since recalled that year due to transmission issues). We kept the car until I decided I wanted a new one - I then traded it in for a new 2007 Odyssey. I love my car, it drives nice, has plenty of room, etc. I have the EX w/leather model. I would recommend it.

Before buying a used car (or even if you own a car that is more than 2 years old), do an online search for TSBs (technical service bulletins). These are messages from the manufacturer to dealers and service departments about reported problems. The information you find will give you some idea of what you might expect as an owner.

ph4ever wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:

blackjack wrote:

CoronaMargaritahead wrote:BUY AMERICAN

Problem is, I bought a Ford and the glass was made in Australia, parts came from Mexico and Canada...so what is "American". Saturn's are assembled in Tennesee. Is that American?

Tennessee is American... parts can be imported, but fund American companies, this is the problem with the American public, they like to buy the japanese crap, which is discusting

and also my Saturn is built in Wilmington, Delaware

Ever owned a Dodge? Also known as "replace transmission every 3000 or so miles?" Now before you yell at me I drive a Chevy Silverado. I'll buy American when it comes to a truck but not a car because quite frankly some of the cars that the US auto makers put out are crap.

My Dad gets about 75K out of a tranny.. But He changes filters and oil
every 3K also.. you maynot have the same driving style

OK let's go there I will soon be in the Market..
I only want new.. the only way I get a used
rig is to have one that I can afford to renovate..
(like a '64-5-6-7- something Jeep Cj-5)
I want a Jeep Soft top.. But WOW are they proud of them here..
no deals.. (often several thousand over MSRP)
I have been advised that I may not like the Jeep as well as I might think
so several test drives are in order..

So.. were to go from there?? I live in snow country.. I hunt and fish..
so a Ragtop Toyota probably isn't too good of an idea..

the only way to get a 4 wheel drive pickup from many of the makers
is to get a 4 door..Well that's good and fine if you got a family...
there is just me, so that is more than I need.
I drove and loved the Ford escape.. but that is a lot of Rig for just me..

I will not buy a small suv.. they all have 4 cylinders and at altitude the engine
will never see 80K,if I drive it in the hills
(that's Mountains to some of you) much
I kind of like the Suburu Outback Wagon.. but they are pretty Proud of them too..

A Dodge full size truck (2 door)?? look at $35

any Ideas?? right now if the Jeep doesn't make the cut..
its a Mitus. or Nissan Pickup.. I will cave and get the 4 door..