Is Jimmy "mailing it in"?

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Re: Is Jimmy "mailing it in"?

Post by Wino you know »

changingchannels wrote:
lati2d wrote:Waah Waah. You know - we all would like a whole new setlist every night - but it ain't gonna happen. As has been said before - be grateful that at 62 and zillions of money - he is still touring. Pass me the popcorn please.

so are you grateful when he plays 11 songs from the yellow album, scarlet begonias, yellow submarine,southern cross, and brown eyed girl?
YES.
Yes, I'd also like to hear different songs, but I'll take what I can get.

As for the "new" songs, I was a bit disappointed he left "Rhumba" off this set list, but I was happy I could be there anyway.

And I know I'm playing the part of the Lone Ranger here when I say I LOVE hearing him sing "Brown Eyed Girl."

SO THERE! :P :lol:
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Post by TropicalTroubador »

lime rickie wrote:I don't think he's "mailing it in". :roll: Certain songs may not be among my favorites but I enjoy - no dare I say appreciate - him for getting out there and giving us the best party of the year. :)
With all due respect...*we* create the party, especially in the parking lots. Jimmy mostly just gives us the excuse. :) He does seem to work rather hard at helping it happen, and he's written a lot of the songs that are inspiring us in our excess and celebration. But it's the Parrotheads who bring the tiki bars, the coconut bras, the ingeniously-powered blenders, and the tequila.
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surfpirate wrote:I'd simply love it if he'd keep the same generic set lists we come to know/love/hate but would sing them many of them more "70s style" ........... no SALT-SALT-SALT ....... and *sing* the song ... don't *SHOUT* out specific words in the lyrics ("ran into a CHUM with a bottle of RUM".

Sure ... switch a few lyrics around to make local crowd pleasing references .... but for the love of (insert your preferred deity here) ....... stay true to the original album version I originally fell in love with and not the SHOUTING/TALKING concert versions of late.

Well said.
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aeroparrot wrote:
C-Dawg wrote: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Here we go again......I think I have enough popcorn for everyone, pass your bowls and i'll fill 'em up.

I would like some, thanks.

I could use some more popcorn over here, please! :D
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weirdo0521 wrote:
surfpirate wrote:I'd simply love it if he'd keep the same generic set lists we come to know/love/hate but would sing them many of them more "70s style" ........... no SALT-SALT-SALT ....... and *sing* the song ... don't *SHOUT* out specific words in the lyrics ("ran into a CHUM with a bottle of RUM".

Sure ... switch a few lyrics around to make local crowd pleasing references .... but for the love of (insert your preferred deity here) ....... stay true to the original album version I originally fell in love with and not the SHOUTING/TALKING concert versions of late.

Well said.
On this score I have to agree. CILCIA is one of my favorites and it's ruined when he does that.
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ScarletB wrote:
weirdo0521 wrote:
surfpirate wrote:I'd simply love it if he'd keep the same generic set lists we come to know/love/hate but would sing them many of them more "70s style" ........... no SALT-SALT-SALT ....... and *sing* the song ... don't *SHOUT* out specific words in the lyrics ("ran into a CHUM with a bottle of RUM".

Sure ... switch a few lyrics around to make local crowd pleasing references .... but for the love of (insert your preferred deity here) ....... stay true to the original album version I originally fell in love with and not the SHOUTING/TALKING concert versions of late.

Well said.
On this score I have to agree. CILCIA is one of my favorites and it's ruined when he does that.
Me too. I thought it was pretty funny that Jimmy started the tour off this year in Hawaii playing a cover version of another bands cover of CILCIA.

What the F? The original artist covering a cover of his original work? Now that is just weird.

Maybe CSN should start covering Jimmy's cover of Southern Cross. Van Morrison covering BEG?
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Re: Is Jimmy "mailing it in"?

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Tiki Bar wrote:In other words, each show should be for the people who are in attendance at that show only. Not for the people who listen on RM, and not for the people who check out the setlist after each show. There are plenty of us on BN who go to multiple shows a year, and / or listen to them regularly, but that's not who Jimmy and the band are catering to when they're on stage. I'd bet for most of the people in attendance, it's a once-a-year event at most, and for many it's their first time, and none of them have any idea that their setlist is similar to others on the tour.
Just a brief aside — were you-all aware that the term "fan" is verbal shorthand for "fanatic"? And synonyms for fanatic include "maniac" and "zealot"?? Parrotheads, Deadheads, or Dittoheads, we're all the same under the skin....and it's threads like this that prove it!

In less than three weeks, I am going to Alpine Valley to see/hear my first ever Jimmy Buffett concert. I got hooked on him over 20 years ago, and it was the Yellow Album songs like Cheeseburger, Fins, Volcano, and — to a lesser degree — Come Monday, CILCIA, and WDWGDAS that did it. I then picked up a few of his other albums — Volcano, White Sport Coat, Feeding Frenzy, to name a few — and the box set, so I am fully aware that there are other good songs other than just the 'Sacred Six'.

But as I said, this will be my first ever Jimmy concert, and unless my lottery numbers come in I doubt that I will be touring the country until I am on a first-name basis with Jimmy, Nadirah, and Fingers (and Charleston). So I am hoping — nay, *EXPECTING* — to hear some of the Yellow Album, and I will be extremely disappointed if I don't.

Seriously, not hearing some of the Yellow Album at a Bubba concert would be like going to hear Celine Dion and not hearing "My Heart Will Go On", or a Gordon Lightfoot concert and not hearing "Edmund Fitzgerald". For better or worse, certain songs are connected with certain artists and the sooner we fans realize it the less stressful life is likely to become.

As for the "mailing it in" discussion, I too agree that this phrase more accurately reflects the amount of energy/life in the performance itself, rather than the selection of the material. We, the audience, have a lot to do with that as well. Any performer feeds off the audience reaction, just as the audience gets off on the performance. It's synergy (and there's your six-bit word for today).
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Re: Is Jimmy "mailing it in"?

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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:In other words, each show should be for the people who are in attendance at that show only. Not for the people who listen on RM, and not for the people who check out the setlist after each show. There are plenty of us on BN who go to multiple shows a year, and / or listen to them regularly, but that's not who Jimmy and the band are catering to when they're on stage. I'd bet for most of the people in attendance, it's a once-a-year event at most, and for many it's their first time, and none of them have any idea that their setlist is similar to others on the tour.
Just a brief aside — were you-all aware that the term "fan" is verbal shorthand for "fanatic"? And synonyms for fanatic include "maniac" and "zealot"?? Parrotheads, Deadheads, or Dittoheads, we're all the same under the skin....and it's threads like this that prove it!

In less than three weeks, I am going to Alpine Valley to see/hear my first ever Jimmy Buffett concert. I got hooked on him over 20 years ago, and it was the Yellow Album songs like Cheeseburger, Fins, Volcano, and — to a lesser degree — Come Monday, CILCIA, and WDWGDAS that did it. I then picked up a few of his other albums — Volcano, White Sport Coat, Feeding Frenzy, to name a few — and the box set, so I am fully aware that there are other good songs other than just the 'Sacred Six'.

But as I said, this will be my first ever Jimmy concert, and unless my lottery numbers come in I doubt that I will be touring the country until I am on a first-name basis with Jimmy, Nadirah, and Fingers (and Charleston). So I am hoping — nay, *EXPECTING* — to hear some of the Yellow Album, and I will be extremely disappointed if I don't.

Seriously, not hearing some of the Yellow Album at a Bubba concert would be like going to hear Celine Dion and not hearing "My Heart Will Go On", or a Gordon Lightfoot concert and not hearing "Edmund Fitzgerald". For better or worse, certain songs are connected with certain artists and the sooner we fans realize it the less stressful life is likely to become.

As for the "mailing it in" discussion, I too agree that this phrase more accurately reflects the amount of energy/life in the performance itself, rather than the selection of the material. We, the audience, have a lot to do with that as well. Any performer feeds off the audience reaction, just as the audience gets off on the performance. It's synergy (and there's your six-bit word for today).
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Bottom line....Jimmy is going to play WHAT he enjoys playing......
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"My Heart Will Go On" was actually written by Will Jennings as well as "Love Lift Us Up Where We Belong" and countless other big hits. The same Will Jennings that did Riddles in the Sand and Last Mango in Paris with somebody we love!!!! Found that out the other day and thought i would share.lol... [smilie=cheeky-grin.gif]
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Re: Is Jimmy "mailing it in"?

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We enjoy going to the concerts. Actually don't have any problem with hearing some of the same songs. We like those songs. Granted some more than others. But each time we feel lucky to be able to attend one of his shows. This year he did of our favorites, Rumba Man and Conkey Tonkin. It was worth the price of the tickets for those two songs alone.

We enjoy the tailgates with our BN friends and have a great time!! Can't wait to do it again.

We would like to have him write some more of the beach sailing songs that have been our favorites. And do enjoy, Surfing In a Hurricane. So hope more of those finds its way on paper and to a concert or album soon.

We think we are very very lucky to have his concerts broadcast for free on RM. He does not have to do that. And we are VERY grateful that he does allow it. We are very fortunate.

Anyway, this is just our opinion. We're havin fun and really just don't have any complaints.
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Skibo wrote:Hmmmm...I guess just about every band/performer is just mailing it in. Is there any tour that doesn't play pretty much the same set list in every city? There is an awful lot of rehearsal time before the tours start, to do a different show every night would be insane. Mailing it in, I don't think so, getting old and slowing down is more likely. Jimmy has never shown an inclination to mail it in, I don't think he would.
I agree.
Every band plays a setlist that changes very little throughout their tours.
The difference is we don't have the ability with practically every other act out there to hear their shows live each night.

sure, I'm burnt out on this setlist... just gotta step away from the M'ville shows for a good while...
so the next time I get that showtime urge... like, say...OCTOBER :evil: ... I may tune in again 8) :lol:
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standing front row this year for show #80ish I didn't care what he played :D when we see him in SBH again don't care what he plays
on another note saw Chrissie Hynde last weekend that girl still brings it
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
Skibo wrote:Hmmmm...I guess just about every band/performer is just mailing it in. Is there any tour that doesn't play pretty much the same set list in every city? There is an awful lot of rehearsal time before the tours start, to do a different show every night would be insane. Mailing it in, I don't think so, getting old and slowing down is more likely. Jimmy has never shown an inclination to mail it in, I don't think he would.
I agree.
Every band plays a setlist that changes very little throughout their tours.
The difference is we don't have the ability with practically every other act out there to hear their shows live each night.

sure, I'm burnt out on this setlist... just gotta step away from the M'ville shows for a good while...
so the next time I get that showtime urge... like, say...OCTOBER :evil: ... I may tune in again 8) :lol:
Lots of good points, lots of not so good points.

There are and have been plenty of acts that change it up nightly, and significantly. The Dead. Phish. REM. Dave Matthews - at least in a "non-album" year. And like pholks have said, their fans still griped/gripe. And - very important - their fans didn't/don't get it free on the innerwebs and satellites. Funny the way it is, not right or wrong. [smilie=cheeky-grin.gif]
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I used to be in the school of "Jimmy for the love of God change it up, or atleast ditch all the SYKBH and covers". Then I took a break. About a 3 or 4 year break. And we came back last year, and I went 2nd row.....

Let me tell you in 2nd row the songs I despise (BEG, and Come Monday), there I was singing along to them like the rest of the people w/ a big ol' smile. Knowing full well I can't even go back to "normal pavillion" seats, I sprung again for good seat, in 3rd row this time.

I think when we (parrotheads) start to get disgruntled and complain.....it's a good time to take a break. Put Jimmy on the back burner, don't listen to the music. Go check the stages of the PH that's floating around on this board and online....It's a step in the evolution of a PH ;) Back in the day we'd do 2-3 shows, we'd drive from Mi to Cincy to MI to Chicago all in the same week. And then my meltdown happened. I was back in the lawn (we gave up lawn....for the REAL seats)....and Come Monday played, followed by CIP, And BEG, and I broke. I was belligerent, I was unhappy.....and we left! We left in the middle of the 1st set! Unbelievable! And that's when I took my break.....

I'm now in the stage where I'm gonna need 1-3 row seats...(I've gotten spoiled) and I'm gonna take what Jimmy gives us. I'm not gonna travel anymore, unless it's that elusive show we all talk about w/ all of our obscure favorites. Because as we all know, this party has to end sometime.....We're all just lucky at this point we still have our summer party.

Sure some bands do mix it up...but I think most don't. And like someone pointed out, even the bands that mix it up get complaints. My husband went to see Phish this summer back to back in Alpine. He had his gripes about what was and wasn't played, and got p*** that other cities got songs he would have like to have heard. So there really is no pleasing everyone.

I wanna hear Tire Swing.......But I'm not gonna come onto BN, or anywhere else online and b**** and moan year after year after year that I still haven't heard it. I'll take hearing Come Monday (god, I really hate that song) for the 13th time rather and move on. Take some of Jimmy's own advise...Breathe in Breathe out move on!
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Turn off Radio Margaritaville and don't listen to any show until the one you go to in person, then it won't be stale.
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Tired of the same old set list? Stop listening to every single show on RM. Try listening to the "Buffett Buffet" or download on older concert, or put in a CD with the exact songs you want to hear. Break it up a little and listen to other artists on occasion. Jimmy is my favorite, but I listen to alot of other stuff too. Geez, the man can collect social security this year, give him a break! He has a formula that works, it aint broke, and he aint fixin' it!
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flipflopgirl wrote:Bottom line....Jimmy is going to play WHAT he enjoys playing......
That kind of says it all, Christine.......you are most wise :pirate:
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TropicalTroubador wrote:
lime rickie wrote:I don't think he's "mailing it in". :roll: Certain songs may not be among my favorites but I enjoy - no dare I say appreciate - him for getting out there and giving us the best party of the year. :)
With all due respect...*we* create the party, especially in the parking lots. Jimmy mostly just gives us the excuse. :) He does seem to work rather hard at helping it happen, and he's written a lot of the songs that are inspiring us in our excess and celebration. But it's the Parrotheads who bring the tiki bars, the coconut bras, the ingeniously-powered blenders, and the tequila.
At GW we ended up in the elevator with 2 of the catering folks. They mentioned to us that they've worked with a lot of bands and that they NEVER ever see the audience participation at the level they see at Jimmy's shows. Now of course they knew we were there for the concert but they said they had a lot of fun watching from the wings at his shows.

And he eats Rotisserie chicken and brown rice if anyone cares. They also said he was always very nice to them. :D

Of course as soon as they walked away MacPhin and I were trying to figure out how we could copy what they were wearing to get into the secure area! :P
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Just went to the Detroit Show...and Jimmy definitely didn't "mail it in" The show was fun, high energy, had a couple of different songs along with Come Monday, One particular Harbor, Volcano, Changes, Margaritaville and I enjoyed them all.
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