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School sends kids home for wearing flag

Students Sent Home Over American Flag Shirts

10 hours ago - CBS 13 Sacramento 2:44

Five Northern California high school students were sent home from their school after coming to school wearing shirts with the American Flag on it during Cinco De Mayo.
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Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
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:o YIPES :o I have a shirt with a flag on it.
So does my husband.
So does my mother.
And my grandchildren. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

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ph4ever wrote:Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
Is it against the flag code to have an image of the flag on the clothing? It's not like their clothes were actually made out of flags.

I don't understand Mexican students getting upset. Most of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. :roll:
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SharkOnLand wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
Is it against the flag code to have an image of the flag on the clothing? It's not like their clothes were actually made out of flags.

I don't understand Mexican students getting upset. Most of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. :roll:
LOL every day would be a holiday if we celebrated all the french battle losses.
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It tis a slippery slope our country is built on - how often we debate what's free speech v. infringing on other's rights. Sounds like all was resolved and a few individuals were a bit over-zealous with the administration of their duties.

I was more taken with the fact that the reporter looked like John Gosselin. What? Did he actually get a real job and change his name? :lol:
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Skibo wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
Is it against the flag code to have an image of the flag on the clothing? It's not like their clothes were actually made out of flags.

I don't understand Mexican students getting upset. Most of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. :roll:
LOL every day would be a holiday if we celebrated all the french battle losses.

Can we fly over their air space yet? Just asking..... :)
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SharkOnLand wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
Is it against the flag code to have an image of the flag on the clothing? It's not like their clothes were actually made out of flags.

I don't understand Mexican students getting upset. Most of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. :roll:
I just quoted the code and I didn't read Skibo's link as I felt he probably quoted what he felt was the most important part of the article. I guess maybe I should have read the whole thing?
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A couple of other points:

It seems the students wore them to get a rise out of people. The one kid was wearing swimtrunks. Is there any reason to wear swimtrunks to school? One kid had a bandana on, which are against school rules. If it was their intent to provoke people, the school had every reason to send them home.

Also, the topic title is a little misleading. Nowhere in the video is it called an "image of hate". Do we really need to be that sensational?
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JollyMon66 wrote:It tis a slippery slope our country is built on - how often we debate what's free speech v. infringing on other's rights. Sounds like all was resolved and a few individuals were a bit over-zealous with the administration of their duties.

I was more taken with the fact that the reporter looked like John Gosselin. What? Did he actually get a real job and change his name? :lol:

I thought John was still lieing about all the offers he's gotten
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ph4ever wrote:
I just quoted the code and I didn't read Skibo's link as I felt he probably quoted what he felt was the most important part of the article. I guess maybe I should have read the whole thing?
Actually it was a video. That was the text that was provided.
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Skibo wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
I just quoted the code and I didn't read Skibo's link as I felt he probably quoted what he felt was the most important part of the article. I guess maybe I should have read the whole thing?
Actually it was a video. That was the text that was provided.
Well it's a good thing I didn't check - it's against company policy to watch videos or stream music. That's one reason I rarely click on links at work - people aren't considerate that some of us might be at work and don't want to break company policy. :wink:
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ph4ever wrote:
JollyMon66 wrote:It tis a slippery slope our country is built on - how often we debate what's free speech v. infringing on other's rights. Sounds like all was resolved and a few individuals were a bit over-zealous with the administration of their duties.

I was more taken with the fact that the reporter looked like John Gosselin. What? Did he actually get a real job and change his name? :lol:

I thought John was still lieing about all the offers he's gotten

I don't follow the news or the show but the Gosselin's first house was about 15 miles from me (about a mile from where my wife works and across the street of a former co-worker of mine). We got lots of "local" news here. They moved from Lancaster County PA to Reading - about 35 miles away not long before the crap hit the fan. With all that said - it's a shame for the kids that their family life and the problems had to be splashed all over the news all the time.
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ph4ever wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
Is it against the flag code to have an image of the flag on the clothing? It's not like their clothes were actually made out of flags.

I don't understand Mexican students getting upset. Most of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. :roll:
I just quoted the code and I didn't read Skibo's link as I felt he probably quoted what he felt was the most important part of the article. I guess maybe I should have read the whole thing?
That's all the text there is. It's a video news story. I'm not up on the flag code. But the US Military has flag patches on their uniforms... The way I read the part you quoted is that the actual flag shouldn't be used as clothing. *shrug*
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JollyMon66 wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
JollyMon66 wrote:It tis a slippery slope our country is built on - how often we debate what's free speech v. infringing on other's rights. Sounds like all was resolved and a few individuals were a bit over-zealous with the administration of their duties.

I was more taken with the fact that the reporter looked like John Gosselin. What? Did he actually get a real job and change his name? :lol:

I thought John was still lieing about all the offers he's gotten

I don't follow the news or the show but the Gosselin's first house was about 15 miles from me (about a mile from where my wife works and across the street of a former co-worker of mine). We got lots of "local" news here. They moved from Lancaster County PA to Reading - about 35 miles away not long before the crap hit the fan. With all that said - it's a shame for the kids that their family life and the problems had to be splashed all over the news all the time.
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SharkOnLand wrote: It seems the students wore them to get a rise out of people. The one kid was wearing swimtrunks. Is there any reason to wear swimtrunks to school? One kid had a bandana on, which are against school rules. If it was their intent to provoke people, the school had every reason to send them home.
Really, what if a kid decides to wear a red shirt on green day. (St. Patricks) or the rivals sports jersey on a team spirit day? Bandana yeah take it off. Swimtrunks? who cares. they are shorts with a lining. No biggie to me since kids in my neighborhood wear shorts to school everyday.
SharkOnLand wrote:Also, the topic title is a little misleading. Nowhere in the video is it called an "image of hate". Do we really need to be that sensational?
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SharkOnLand wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:
ph4ever wrote:Section 8d of the Flag code:
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

Perhaps they were sent home because they were actually breaking the law?
Is it against the flag code to have an image of the flag on the clothing? It's not like their clothes were actually made out of flags.

I don't understand Mexican students getting upset. Most of Mexico doesn't even celebrate Cinco de Mayo. :roll:
I just quoted the code and I didn't read Skibo's link as I felt he probably quoted what he felt was the most important part of the article. I guess maybe I should have read the whole thing?
That's all the text there is. It's a video news story. I'm not up on the flag code. But the US Military has flag patches on their uniforms... The way I read the part you quoted is that the actual flag shouldn't be used as clothing. *shrug*
I beleive there's another section that specifically addresses patches and pins - stuff like that. I think it's title 36
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Skibo wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:Also, the topic title is a little misleading. Nowhere in the video is it called an "image of hate". Do we really need to be that sensational?
Yes.


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In my opinion skibo was only pointing out how absurd it was that in the USA someone was sent home from school for showing AMERICAN pride and wearing clothing depicting an AMERICAN flag. Would we have sent home someone for wearing clothing depicting and IRAQ flag? No....because that would have been discrimination as well as against someone's right as an American citizen.

Yes I am appalled. And yes perhaps it needs to be sensationalized for Americans to see that our rights are being stripped out from under us in the name of politcal correctness. My daddy was a good ole redneck boy and he would have sent me to school every day wearing something depicting the red white and blue if something like this had happened to me.

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SharkOnLand wrote:A couple of other points:

It seems the students wore them to get a rise out of people. The one kid was wearing swimtrunks. Is there any reason to wear swimtrunks to school? One kid had a bandana on, which are against school rules. If it was their intent to provoke people, the school had every reason to send them home.

Also, the topic title is a little misleading. Nowhere in the video is it called an "image of hate". Do we really need to be that sensational?
That's two of five. What were the other three horrible children doing/wearing?
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