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Post by he came from london »

sonofabeach wrote:I think the better solution is for the U.S. to strike back.
Maybe sink an oil tanker or two just off the coast of Britain :lol:
All ready been tried.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/date ... 242709.stm

The worst thing is is this sort of thing has been happening in other countries, Nigeria for instance but been ignored.
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CaptainP wrote:I will continue to go with BP if they have a good price. I'll tell you why.

September 11th, 2001. Terrorist attack on the USA creates a panic. Due to the potential for a war with oil-bearing nations, most gas stations spike their prices....the one closest to where I was working that day went from $1.65 to $4.45 in an hour. One company that came out and made a public statement that day, assuring that no station affiliated with BP would raise prices without losing their affiliation with BP. Consequence? Other companies followed suit. Prices came back to where they belonged...at all stations, and didn't spike again until 2005.

OK, BP has screwed up royally in the last month. I'm willing to cut them some slack based on their history...and hope they get the problem fixed. I won't go out of my way to avoid them, I won't go out of my way to patronize them. I will simply continue to gas up where ever I find a good price.
Interesting, since the BP nearest to me raised its price to $5.00 a gallon on 9/11. And is always the highest BP anywhere around here.
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Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:Nope, the BP stations here a locally owned and operated, not gonna hurt the local workers. BP wouldn't feel a thing if I boycotted the local stations.
I agree. It's not as simple as boycotting BP. I don't want to hurt my local people.
JollyMon66 wrote:Why hasn’t the Obama administration stepped in and taken over this situation with the Army Core of Engineers?
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SchoolGirlHeart wrote:The government has no expertise.
Truer words were never spoken.
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surfpirate wrote:It is so very easy to become protesters today after the fact.
We need to take a hard look at ourselves and ask why more of us
perhaps weren't more vocal about deep water drilling 1 month,
2 months, 1 year ago ......

..... as we were "driving around" consuming gasoline and taking for granted
that the supply of fuel would be over at the corner gas station when we
needed to fill up the tank. The corner gas station probably owned/managed
by someone living in our community.

I'm not excusing BP or letting them off the hook for anything.

But I perhaps shouldn't be so quick to judge, as I drive my
V-8 crew cab truck around with it's 14 mpg.

Maybe, just maybe I created this mess.
you know...I don't care if you drive an 8, 6 or 4 cylinder auto (mine is a 4). We are ALL responsible for the appetite for oil in this country. I could probably find a job closer to home (I drive around 50 miles roundtrip); however, the salary would not be nearly as good but I could walk or ride a bike...sorry...not going to happen. We drive from soccer game to track meet to movies, etc. Are you all willing to give this all up? I'm not. How do you heat your home in the winter? Are your kids warm?

I remember when Jackson Brown performed a concert against nuclear energy...blasting speakers from all directions, electric guitars, lights, and everything else that uses electricity...I am sure you can figure out that irony.

We are a mobile nation and need to come up with solutions that do not rely on foreign oil. Do I blame BP? I really don't know..I am an accountant not an engineer. But...I do know that it is impossible to predict every single thing that can go wrong with every single situation. Will I not go to a bp station if they have lower prices? That is cutting off my nose to spite my face....

So...SP...we've all created this mess and we've all got to deal with it. Hopefully we have some great minds out there to figure it all out...
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Skibo wrote:LOL how did that Exxon boycott work out? As part of the boycott are other oil byproducts like plastics, synthetic fabrics and tires? Will you stop driving on newly paved asphalt roads? There are three gas stations around me that have the lowest price fuel, BP is one of them I will continue to purchase gas there.
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I am done with BP.

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popcornjack wrote:
JollyMon66 wrote:There is no question that BP's solution response has been weak. Like 99.99% of Americans, I know nothing about deep sea drilling but have to believe that if you are in that business you should have proper contingency plans for anything and everything that “could” happen. BP screwed up and hopefully other drillers have gone back to the drawing board to look at their operations.

I’m a pretty conservative guy and basically don’t like the Federal government stepping in to solve private industry problems. This is a different situation however…it’s impacting our gulf shore economy, families, and the environment. Why hasn’t the Obama administration stepped in and taken over this situation with the Army Core of Engineers? We can be ticked at BP but the real heat (in my opinion) belongs to our politicians.

That’s my Sunday morning soap box :D
They're still trying to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.....
Besides which they have no expertize in this area.
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Post by HurricaneSeason »

After the fact eh?

Well of course it is.

Aside from the biggest problem, which is the damn leak that BP is unable to stop and has to "think" about, the true problems are what lead up to it.

And just to make sure this is understood, NOBODY knew about those problems except for those on the rig, of which 11 of them died. So 'after the fact' is all we have. What are you gonna do? Find out they're cutting corners and say something? Doesn't stop it from happening. That's obvious - because it's been made clear that there were issues between the company man who was in a hurry and the rest of the people who knew better.

The only other oil company doing deep water drilling in the Gulf is Shell. I don't go to Shell because they have the highest prices in the area, they sponsor Jazz Fest and they're responsible for a big part of the oil canals in our wetlands. They've not done a single thing to help with coastal restoration that I am aware of. What I am aware of is, so far, they have not had any issues with their deep water drilling rigs.

I will not ever set foot on the property of a BP station ever again period. I've seen people say 'if you don't buy gas at a BP those people will be out of a job.' Well that's how it goes. They can get other jobs. And I'm certainly not concerned with those people when the Gulf Of Mexico and south Louisiana and possibly more as the plumes come to surface, especially in a hurricane, is getting killed. They unknowingly worked for a corrupt company possibly - now they have to deal with the consequences of that choice. I know they didn't choose to do that - but that's what happened. My choice is to not support BP at all and that means not buying their gas products and not buying other BP oil made products. That company needs to go down, under, defunct, you name it. They are lying to the people of the Gulf Coast. They're lying about everything that's going on. They're lying to the people that are cleaning up their mess. They're taking their time with something they considered to be something that could 'never happen'. Several people need to go to prison because of this, mainly Suttles and Hayward. If people could go to prison for running their stupid mouths, those two would already be in prison.

This is going to have a nasty influence on the entire country overall. It's a slow bomb going off.
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HurricaneSeason....

I assume you're Amish...which begs the question how are you accessing the internet?

Please inform me of what type of energy you endorse, and also what energy producing companies are not hurting the environment and have no risk whatsoever for an accident?

Talk about an emotional response that isn't practical or logical.

I will await your answer so I can better comprehend how to move forward in life regarding energy production and consumption.

Cheers
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Hello, When the Cubs and Sox play their cross town classic this year it will be sponsored by BP.
They will be playing for the "BP Crosstown Cup". I wonder how that will play out this summer.
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Still no response from HurricaneSeason? Hmmmm.....moving on.

I have to ask everyone...how many employees does BP/Transocean have, and how many within the USA? It's all very well hating "big business" but they tend to employee most of us.

Can we have some practical discussion rather than emotional knee jerk, juvenille reactions?

Cheers
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wiscoleeds ....

I find I tend to get what you seem to be asking for ... "practical discussion",

... when I don't pepper my own posts with juvenile taunting tactics.
That approach annoys me as much as "emotional knee jerk" posts,
which, as are all posts, are perception based anyway.
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JollyMon66 wrote:There is no question that BP's solution response has been weak. Like 99.99% of Americans, I know nothing about deep sea drilling but have to believe that if you are in that business you should have proper contingency plans for anything and everything that “could” happen. BP screwed up and hopefully other drillers have gone back to the drawing board to look at their operations.

I’m a pretty conservative guy and basically don’t like the Federal government stepping in to solve private industry problems. This is a different situation however…it’s impacting our gulf shore economy, families, and the environment. Why hasn’t the Obama administration stepped in and taken over this situation with the Army Core of Engineers? We can be ticked at BP but the real heat (in my opinion) belongs to our politicians.

That’s my Sunday morning soap box :D
The Corps of Engineers don't have the means or the ways to deal with this sort of thing. BP does. And it's their mistake.
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wiscoleeds wrote:HurricaneSeason....

I assume you're Amish...which begs the question how are you accessing the internet?

Please inform me of what type of energy you endorse, and also what energy producing companies are not hurting the environment and have no risk whatsoever for an accident?

Talk about an emotional response that isn't practical or logical.

I will await your answer so I can better comprehend how to move forward in life regarding energy production and consumption.

Cheers
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So because I choose to not support BP's gas stations suddenly I'm Amish or have found the solution to using petroleum products in general? You sound like a typical smug American that "knows all" with such a fatalistic response. My response is logical and practical. I made a decision and I expressed it. There is no big deal about that. Shell is the only other company that is doing deep water drilling. They've destroyed a lot of the wetlands as it is. I don't buy gasoline from them either. That's my choice.
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wiscoleeds wrote:Still no response from HurricaneSeason? Hmmmm.....moving on.

I have to ask everyone...how many employees does BP/Transocean have, and how many within the USA? It's all very well hating "big business" but they tend to employee most of us.

Can we have some practical discussion rather than emotional knee jerk, juvenille reactions?

Cheers
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Hey Cheesehead, go do some ice fishing. They "employee" most of us? Who is "most of us"? Where is the Delete Annoyance button?
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JollyMon66 wrote:
popcornjack wrote:
JollyMon66 wrote:There is no question that BP's solution response has been weak. Like 99.99% of Americans, I know nothing about deep sea drilling but have to believe that if you are in that business you should have proper contingency plans for anything and everything that “could” happen. BP screwed up and hopefully other drillers have gone back to the drawing board to look at their operations.

I’m a pretty conservative guy and basically don’t like the Federal government stepping in to solve private industry problems. This is a different situation however…it’s impacting our gulf shore economy, families, and the environment. Why hasn’t the Obama administration stepped in and taken over this situation with the Army Core of Engineers? We can be ticked at BP but the real heat (in my opinion) belongs to our politicians.

That’s my Sunday morning soap box :D
They're still trying to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.....
That aside - it pains me to say that I still think they should have "nationalized" this problem after BP clearly had no solution. :(
Do you really think the white house has a stock pile of equipment and engineers that are better equipped to deal with this? That just isn't the case, and they have already admitted it.

I don't think boycotting BP gas will do anything. The company is already hurting, taking more money away will only lessen their ability to pay for everything that needs to be done.
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They're gonna make money on the oil they get, don't you worry about that. Besides, a big part of the reason they're taking so long and denying things is because they get fined for it. So they're trying to reduce their own responsibility for their own mess. That's fantastic. If you want to support that, go ahead. I won't. But I wouldn't call someone not buying something from one company a boycott. If I was to boycott BP it would certainly be a lot more than just saying something on an internet forum and not buying their gasoline.
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HurricaneSeason wrote:
wiscoleeds wrote:Still no response from HurricaneSeason? Hmmmm.....moving on.

I have to ask everyone...how many employees does BP/Transocean have, and how many within the USA? It's all very well hating "big business" but they tend to employee most of us.

Can we have some practical discussion rather than emotional knee jerk, juvenille reactions?

Cheers
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Hey Cheesehead, go do some ice fishing. They "employee" most of us? Who is "most of us"? Where is the Delete Annoyance button?
"Big business" employees most of us.

Okay let's talk some real facts here. In the US there are 10,837 BP stations (according to BP website). Being very conservative let's say that each station employees 3 people; the owner and 2 employees. If every BP station closed that would create an instant 32,511 people out of a job. Some states have literally hundreds of BP stations while others a handfull. Those states that have hundreds will have an affect on other industries that supply the BP stations with everything from doodads to widgets will find their sales reduced, and it's quite possible they will have to reduce their work force as a result. So more people could loose their job.

Considering the US is trying to pull out of a recession you really think doing something that could cause more people not already affected by this to loose their jobs over a boycott is a good thing?

Oh and if you have to respond to me please leave off the childish insults. They really don't do a thing to enhance your argument.
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Post by HurricaneSeason »

Certainly you can giggle at the geographical poke huh?

That's not a lot of people compared to the amount of people in this country yet alone this region. And I'm not responsible for the BP station people losing their jobs if they do anyway - BP is. Do you have any figures for what this catastrophe has done already to jobs down here and what it is going to do way much more to this region and all that it's going to influence? I hear more and more every day. Maybe you have no idea. Entire families will be wiped out. A huge amount of businesses are going to be gone - for years. Some already are, at least for now. But as long as it continues to leak, the time line is getting longer and longer and longer. And that's going to influence a lot more businesses. It's a huge slow bomb going off.
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