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Not an unusual problem, as Rochester (MN) has something similar. As many as 25000 geese spend part of November in and around Rochester during the annual migration. In addition, there is a year-round flock of Branta Canadensis maxima (Giant Canada geese), believed to have been extinct until it was confirmed in 1962 that the Rochester flock was in fact made up of this species, estimated to number between 1500 and 2000 birds (according to the MN DNR), and their numbers increase by roughly 10% annually (again, according to figures released by the DNR). These birds overwinter at Silver Lake, a man-made lake within the city limits of Rochester. This lake is also used to provide cooling water to the city's power plant, and the resulting discharge results in its being ice-free even in the harshest of Minnesota winters.Tequila Revenge wrote:It's just not safe to be an animal these days
http://livinveg.com/2010/07/09/109-gees ... nd-oregon/
Why? Because the locals thought that the goose population’s numbers were too high and that there was too much goose poo on the ground. They loaded the Canada Geese into garbage can sized containers and then gassed them.
Tequila Revenge wrote:It's just not safe to be an animal these days
http://livinveg.com/2010/07/09/109-gees ... nd-oregon/
Why? Because the locals thought that the goose population’s numbers were too high and that there was too much goose poo on the ground. They loaded the Canada Geese into garbage can sized containers and then gassed them.
I hope that the Fish and Game folks get involved.. Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if F&G were aware, and even involved. They've made some pretty p***-poor decisions as of late.ragtopW wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:It's just not safe to be an animal these days
http://livinveg.com/2010/07/09/109-gees ... nd-oregon/
Why? Because the locals thought that the goose population’s numbers were too high and that there was too much goose poo on the ground. They loaded the Canada Geese into garbage can sized containers and then gassed them.
evryone of those tactics are against the law.. Federal laws..
Geese are Federal Protected animals..
BWT.. you want them gone?? fine.. thin them out?? fine..
you kill it... you EAT it...
I've never understood people who want to live close to nature, and yet complain the minute they're faced with the consequences of that decision.
Does a drill sargeant make a lousy therapist?sonofabeach wrote:I've got quite a few ducks in my neighborhood that my neighbor keeps feeding so they won't go away. They crap all over the place.
Quick question....does duck taste good fried?
stupid fracking idiots!!!!With the consent of the vets, police shot the cow. Neither she nor her calf survived.
You're right. You could fry a dirty sock and it would taste good. I've also heard you can put A1 Sauce on a dirty sock and it's delicious.bravedave wrote: "You could deep fry my big toe and it would be delicious," said the lovely Ms. [Padma] Lakshmi, which is undoubtedly true.
They gave the butchered geese to the homeless and food banks.ragtopW wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:It's just not safe to be an animal these days
http://livinveg.com/2010/07/09/109-gees ... nd-oregon/
Why? Because the locals thought that the goose population’s numbers were too high and that there was too much goose poo on the ground. They loaded the Canada Geese into garbage can sized containers and then gassed them.
evryone of those tactics are against the law.. Federal laws..
Geese are Federal Protected animals..
BWT.. you want them gone?? fine.. thin them out?? fine..
you kill it... you EAT it...
Bicycle Bill wrote:Not an unusual problem, as Rochester (MN) has something similar. As many as 25000 geese spend part of November in and around Rochester during the annual migration. In addition, there is a year-round flock of Branta Canadensis maxima (Giant Canada geese), believed to have been extinct until it was confirmed in 1962 that the Rochester flock was in fact made up of this species, estimated to number between 1500 and 2000 birds (according to the MN DNR), and their numbers increase by roughly 10% annually (again, according to figures released by the DNR). These birds overwinter at Silver Lake, a man-made lake within the city limits of Rochester. This lake is also used to provide cooling water to the city's power plant, and the resulting discharge results in its being ice-free even in the harshest of Minnesota winters.Tequila Revenge wrote:It's just not safe to be an animal these days
http://livinveg.com/2010/07/09/109-gees ... nd-oregon/
Why? Because the locals thought that the goose population’s numbers were too high and that there was too much goose poo on the ground. They loaded the Canada Geese into garbage can sized containers and then gassed them.
Questions about the possible pollution of the lake by the flocks, and of course the less-than-pristine condition of the small park area surrounding the lake, has prompted several studies and attempts to limit the size of the flocks and mitigate the effects (read, the goose poop) without completely destroying the unique tourist attraction. Some efforts have included egg shaking, removal of eggs, and an expansion of the hunting season, among others. They haven't quite gotten up to rounding them up and gassing them yet, though.
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Brown Eyed Girl wrote:Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if F&G were aware, and even involved. They've made some pretty p***-poor decisions as of late.ragtopW wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:It's just not safe to be an animal these days
http://livinveg.com/2010/07/09/109-gees ... nd-oregon/
Why? Because the locals thought that the goose population’s numbers were too high and that there was too much goose poo on the ground. They loaded the Canada Geese into garbage can sized containers and then gassed them.
evryone of those tactics are against the law.. Federal laws..
Geese are Federal Protected animals..
BWT.. you want them gone?? fine.. thin them out?? fine..
you kill it... you EAT it...
Don't want geese? Stop building your fancy golf courses, manmade lake subdivisions and fancy parks. Places like this attract waterfowl...even an idjit knows that.
This just makes me sick...especially when there's plenty of evidence that these "one time kills" do nothing to solve the problem.
ph4ever wrote:I grew up with a goose refuge just outside the city limits. I used to go out there every year. I can't imagine anyone loading them up in garbage can sized containers and gassing them. Heck the other methods they tried to get rid of them were just as disgusting. Along the line of Santa's you kill it and EAT it, why not kill them and send them to Portland to feed the homeless?
Now about the pregnant cow. WHAT THE HELL?????? A freaking state fair is not the place to be pulling calves!!! Too damn much commotion. These "vets" are supposed to be watching out for the welfare of all animals. These "vets" are really not fit to be practicing veterinary medicine if they condone this type of fair side show. They should be impregnated and be forced to give birth at the fair with everyone watching!!! It's not as if the police acted alonestupid fracking idiots!!!!With the consent of the vets, police shot the cow. Neither she nor her calf survived.
*jumping off soap box to go hug Bailey*
Talk about f**king overkill!!!! WTF - did they think the calf was going to jump out of the womb and charge them?!?!?!? BASTARDS!!!!Tequila Revenge wrote:ph4ever wrote:I grew up with a goose refuge just outside the city limits. I used to go out there every year. I can't imagine anyone loading them up in garbage can sized containers and gassing them. Heck the other methods they tried to get rid of them were just as disgusting. Along the line of Santa's you kill it and EAT it, why not kill them and send them to Portland to feed the homeless?
Now about the pregnant cow. WHAT THE HELL?????? A freaking state fair is not the place to be pulling calves!!! Too damn much commotion. These "vets" are supposed to be watching out for the welfare of all animals. These "vets" are really not fit to be practicing veterinary medicine if they condone this type of fair side show. They should be impregnated and be forced to give birth at the fair with everyone watching!!! It's not as if the police acted alonestupid fracking idiots!!!!With the consent of the vets, police shot the cow. Neither she nor her calf survived.
*jumping off soap box to go hug Bailey*
Like there wasn't ONE cowboy at the state fair that had a rope and could collar the cow and walk her back to her pen. The damb cops shot her an her unborn baby 11 times. The real outrage is there's no outrage.
Nope, not really. I live about 60 miles away from there, and my sister actually does live in Rochester, so I've had first-hand experience with these geese. I also read a lot, and am able to retain an awful lot of what I've read.Tequila Revenge wrote:That's a great story about the giant geese, Bill. Are you a birder?
Bicycle Bill wrote:Nope, not really. I live about 60 miles away from there, and my sister actually does live in Rochester, so I've had first-hand experience with these geese. I also read a lot, and am able to retain an awful lot of what I've read.Tequila Revenge wrote:That's a great story about the giant geese, Bill. Are you a birder?
Rochester finds itself in a sticky situation. Sure, they could figure out a way to eliminate (or at least severely reduce) the population of the permanent flock, but these birds have been a tourist attraction of sorts since at least the 1950s. Several local businesses make use of the birds either in name ("The Canadian Honker" restaurant) or by implementing their silhouette into their logo or ads (as is common for the Silver Lake Shopping Center), and they are usually prominently mentioned in most tourist and visitor publications. The local Northwoods League college-level summer baseball team is even named the "Honkers". It would be safe to say the geese are probably the second most common reason people in the Upper Midwest know of Rochester MN — the Mayo Clinic, of course, being the first.
So they can't completely rid themselves of them, but as Wiscoleeds made reference to, their droppings do create health and aesthetic hazards for the residents of the area as well as park users, on top of which mating or nesting geese can become territorial and highly aggressive/defensive (take your pick), a definite concern for the safety of small children and pets. In addition, whenever you start getting a large concentration of birds in one area for an extended period of time, conditions become ripe for various maladies such as avian cholera or avian botulism to decimate the flock. Things need to be done, not only for the benefit of the residents but for the well-being of the birds themselves.
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