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Does anyone have this 45? I want to know what catalog # ABC assigned to it.
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ChrisP wrote:Does anyone have this 45? I want to know what catalog # ABC assigned to it.
It looks like ABC4001, but I don't have it to look to see if that is right.

http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/45s/45s.htm

http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/gui ... 5_rpms.htm
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conched wrote:
ChrisP wrote:Does anyone have this 45? I want to know what catalog # ABC assigned to it.
It looks like ABC4001, but I don't have it to look to see if that is right.

http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/45s/45s.htm
Thanks for that link - very helpful stuff there.

I have ABC 4001 with the black ABC label but it is the standard version. Does anyone have the white label version depicted in the link above to verify if that's the "hiking shoes" version?

Thanks
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The white labeled 45's were usually distributed to Radio stations for promotional air play of the songs. So you might check on Ebay and see if someone is selling a copy. Since the links are for my buffett site I just looked at the image of the white labeled 45's and it is indeed ABC 4001
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urlcenter wrote:The white labeled 45's were usually distributed to Radio stations for promotional air play of the songs. So you might check on Ebay and see if someone is selling a copy. Since the links are for my buffett site I just looked at the image of the white labeled 45's and it is indeed ABC 4001
I didn't know that was your site. I hope you don't mind the links. I've used printouts of your site for years as a checklist for buying.

Great site. Thank you!!
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conched wrote:
urlcenter wrote:The white labeled 45's were usually distributed to Radio stations for promotional air play of the songs. So you might check on Ebay and see if someone is selling a copy. Since the links are for my buffett site I just looked at the image of the white labeled 45's and it is indeed ABC 4001
I didn't know that was your site. I hope you don't mind the links. I've used printouts of your site for years as a checklist for buying.

Great site. Thank you!!
No problem, I have made some updates and changes recently so enjoy I am always finding new things to add.

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urlcenter wrote:The white labeled 45's were usually distributed to Radio stations for promotional air play of the songs. So you might check on Ebay and see if someone is selling a copy. Since the links are for my buffett site I just looked at the image of the white labeled 45's and it is indeed ABC 4001
I recently purchased a copy with the black label (it also has the 45 hole adapter built in just like the white promo on your site) and although it's the same catalog # (ABC 4001) it doesn't contain the "hiking shoes" lyric which I had anticipated it would.

This would make me believe that the white label promo isn't the BBC version either because they both have the same catalog # but it would be a help if anyone out there can confirm this. Otherwise, I'm looking for what the correct catalog # is for the BBC version.
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ChrisP wrote:
urlcenter wrote:The white labeled 45's were usually distributed to Radio stations for promotional air play of the songs. So you might check on Ebay and see if someone is selling a copy. Since the links are for my buffett site I just looked at the image of the white labeled 45's and it is indeed ABC 4001
I recently purchased a copy with the black label (it also has the 45 hole adapter built in just like the white promo on your site) and although it's the same catalog # (ABC 4001) it doesn't contain the "hiking shoes" lyric which I had anticipated it would.

This would make me believe that the white label promo isn't the BBC version either because they both have the same catalog # but it would be a help if anyone out there can confirm this. Otherwise, I'm looking for what the correct catalog # is for the BBC version.
The "Hiking Shoes" lyric was added after the song had been released because BBC Radio objected to "Hush Puppies" due to BBC rules regarding broadcasting of brand names. The 45's on shown on my site are US releases. Only the white label promo copies have the alternate lyrics not the black labeled 45's. ABC-4001 is the UK catalog number while The US 45 has the number D-4385.

The version of Come Monday with the "Hiking Shoes" lyric was only distributed to BBC Radio and not released to the general public
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The 45's on shown on my site are US releases. Only the white label promo copies have the alternate lyrics not the black labeled 45's. ABC-4001 is the UK catalog number while The US 45 has the number D-4385.

The version of Come Monday with the "Hiking Shoes" lyric was only distributed to BBC Radio and not released to the general public[/quote]



So, to clarify if I'm reading you correct, my black label ABC 4001 is the UK commercial release w/ the Hush Puppy lyric (which matches ABC D-4385 US version) but the white label ABC 4001 promo depicted here:

http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/45s/45s.htm

is the BBC version I'm looking to find, yet it has the same ABC 4001 catalog # but differs from the black label 4001 because it contains the hiking shoes lyric?
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ChrisP wrote:The 45's on shown on my site are US releases. Only the white label promo copies have the alternate lyrics not the black labeled 45's. ABC-4001 is the UK catalog number while The US 45 has the number D-4385.

The version of Come Monday with the "Hiking Shoes" lyric was only distributed to BBC Radio and not released to the general public



So, to clarify if I'm reading you correct, my black label ABC 4001 is the UK commercial release w/ the Hush Puppy lyric (which matches ABC D-4385 US version) but the white label ABC 4001 promo depicted here:

http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/45s/45s.htm

is the BBC version I'm looking to find, yet it has the same ABC 4001 catalog # but differs from the black label 4001 because it contains the hiking shoes lyric?[/quote]

It differs because the white label 45 was not released commercially it was only released to radio stations for airplay. One lyric change in song would not have required a new catalog number from ABC. A similar sort of thing happened with the 45 release of the song Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes which was also edited for radio by altering the lyric "Good times and riches and son of a bitches..." to "Good times and riches and bruises and stiches..

If you are looking for just a copy of the UK version of the song it can be downloaded from jokelben
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It differs because the white label 45 was not released commercially it was only released to radio stations for airplay. One lyric change in song would not have required a new catalog number from ABC. A similar sort of thing happened with the 45 release of the song Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes which was also edited for radio by altering the lyric "Good times and riches and son of a bitches..." to "Good times and riches and bruises and stiches..

If you are looking for just a copy of the UK version of the song it can be downloaded from jokelben[/quote]


Thanks for your help, urlcenter. BTW, I'm not sure which of the two site links above is your site? Is it this one: http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/45s/45s.htm

I'd prefer to have the 45 for a higher quality sound. If anyone reading this thread has a lead on one, please let me know.
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I looked for that version for a long time and never found it, but stopped looking a couple years ago.

I'm sure you can find one. Good luck with your collection.
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ChrisP wrote:It differs because the white label 45 was not released commercially it was only released to radio stations for airplay. One lyric change in song would not have required a new catalog number from ABC. A similar sort of thing happened with the 45 release of the song Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes which was also edited for radio by altering the lyric "Good times and riches and son of a bitches..." to "Good times and riches and bruises and stiches..

If you are looking for just a copy of the UK version of the song it can be downloaded from jokelben


Thanks for your help, urlcenter. BTW, I'm not sure which of the two site links above is your site? Is it this one: http://home.comcast.net/~EHIGGING01/45s/45s.htm

I'd prefer to have the 45 for a higher quality sound. If anyone reading this thread has a lead on one, please let me know.
[/quote]

Yes that's my site and here are two links to down load the BBC version of Come Monday from jokelben:

http://buffett.jokelben.us/Odds%20and%2 ... Monday.mp3

http://buffett.jokelben.us/Treasure%20B ... rsion).mp3
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Yes that's my site and here are two links to down load the BBC version of Come Monday from jokelben:


I have 2 questions about what I see there.

A Pirate Looks At Forty - it says radio edit. What is the timing on the 45 and do you know what was edited out?

Elvis Imitator: I have this promo 45 but mine has the vocal mix on both sides. Is there really a version with no vocal and if so, what is the catalog # for it.

Thanks!
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ChrisP wrote:Yes that's my site and here are two links to down load the BBC version of Come Monday from jokelben:


I have 2 questions about what I see there.

A Pirate Looks At Forty - it says radio edit. What is the timing on the 45 and do you know what was edited out?

Elvis Imitator: I have this promo 45 but mine has the vocal mix on both sides. Is there really a version with no vocal and if so, what is the catalog # for it.

Thanks!
A Pirate Looks at 40 is likely a 45 with with a stereo version on one side and a monaural version on the other. This would be due to the fact that radio was largely monaural in the 1970's mono/stereo 45's were very common practice back then. I cannot think of what would have been changed in terms of lyrics in A Pirate Looks at 40.

The Elvis Imitator 45 is likely a case of there being both a commercial and promo version of the 45 with the same catalog number

Check this page of my site which lists catalog numbers for a large number of Jimmy Buffett 45's:

http://home.comcast.net/~ehigging01/45' ... 5_rpms.htm
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