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It's reported here that they have got him.
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DAB wrote:It's reported here that they have got him.
I was wrong , they got him alive!!!...i'm surprised , but glad , now we can hopefully get the why and who else is involved.
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The important things are no more loss of life and maybe some answers about the train of events leading to this atrocity.
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Great job, law enforcement and military!!!
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Something tells me that little schmuck is in for a long night.
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SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Great job, law enforcement and military!!!
Isn't it amazing, my long time friend, what people can accomplish when they aren't sitting around on the Internet all week promoting their own meaningless political ideologies liked trained sheep? Amazing teamwork and execution. The best of America in response to an evil act.
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Zooey Descahel?

Isn't she an actress / singer?

Fox aren't making stuff up again are they?
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drunkpirate66 wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Great job, law enforcement and military!!!
Isn't it amazing, my long time friend, what people can accomplish when they aren't sitting around on the Internet all week promoting their own meaningless political ideologies liked trained sheep? Amazing teamwork and execution. The best of America in response to an evil act.
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Wino you know wrote:Something tells me that little schmuck is in for a long night.
drunkpirate66 wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Great job, law enforcement and military!!!
Isn't it amazing, my long time friend, what people can accomplish when they aren't sitting around on the Internet all week promoting their own meaningless political ideologies liked trained sheep? Amazing teamwork and execution. The best of America in response to an evil act.
So aren't these responses and the "scenes of celebration in Boston" just a little premature?

Whatever happened to due process and the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise?

Or has the "Land of the free" become "The Land where the court of public opinion and hysteria will ensure you can't have a fair trial"?

To put it simply he's merely the "accused", not the "convicted" or are you willing to just trust the FBI on this one?

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Rabbitz wrote:So aren't these responses and the "scenes of celebration in Boston" just a little premature?

Whatever happened to due process and the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise?

Or has the "Land of the free" become "The Land where the court of public opinion and hysteria will ensure you can't have a fair trial"?

To put it simply he's merely the "accused", not the "convicted" or are you willing to just trust the FBI on this one?

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Innocent people do not rob convenience stores, wear IEDs, shoot at police, and toss explosives at them.  They also do not hide in boats in backyards.  Innocent people do like Salah Eddin Barhoum did — when he was misidentified as a bombing suspect, he immediately went to the police himself to proclaim his innocence.

Yes, the late Mr. Tsarnaev and his brother are indeed, in the eyes of the law, presumed innocent until proven guilty.  But their actions in the aftermath of Monday's event are definitely not going to do very much to disprove the accusations against them.
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Bicycle Bill wrote: Innocent people do not rob convenience stores, wear IEDs, shoot at police, and toss explosives at them.  They also do not hide in boats in backyards.  Innocent people do like Salah Eddin Barhoum did — when he was misidentified as a bombing suspect, he immediately went to the police himself to proclaim his innocence.

Yes, the late Mr. Tsarnaev and his brother are indeed, in the eyes of the law, presumed innocent until proven guilty.  But their actions in the aftermath of Monday's event are definitely not going to do very much to disprove the accusations against them.
So you are willing to trust the FBI on this one? Afterall, their information and their actions are intertwined in this outcome.

Don't get me wrong, if, I say again - IF, the accused is/are found guilty then may which ever deity applies have mercy on their soul. However until then, a little restraint is called for.

Their actions may or may not disprove their innocence, the incidents may or may not be related, they may or may not be guilty of one or more things - none of this has yet been proven. That is why civilised countries have the checks and balances built into their legal systems. Vigilante action is not far removed from terrorism.

The wrong person has been lynched before, especially when the pressure to get a result is applied to "justice" departments.
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Rabbitz wrote:So you are willing to trust the FBI on this one? After all, their information and their actions are intertwined in this outcome.
Yes, I am.  Because if I don't trust the people who have been designated to enforce the laws in our society, in whatever capacity, I am not trusting society itself.  And if one does not trust society, all that is left is anarchy.
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SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Great job, law enforcement and military!!!
Isn't it amazing, my long time friend, what people can accomplish when they aren't sitting around on the Internet all week promoting their own meaningless political ideologies liked trained sheep? Amazing teamwork and execution. The best of America in response to an evil act.
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Perhaps (and I doubt it) that this will motivate people to actually get up off their ever widening as$es and actually create positive results for their communities through effort, teamwork, and belief in something bigger then their own smarmy, ridiculous, and safe from their couches - beds - parent's basement - or local coffee shop internet instigating selves. But that would actually be hard. A tad scary. It might actually prove their worth . . . or lack thereof. It might prove their value in this world is nothing more than to take up space. I could quote people like Oswalt, "So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, 'The good outnumber you, and we always will'." Or even Rogers, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping." Yes. You will. But you will also always find people like those on this thread. Continue to take up space. You could be helping. You could be an active part of the good. Or you could continue to have conversations like those found throughout this thread - complete meaningless piles of nothing.

Look at any picture of the hundreds/ thousands of people who assisted in the man hunt yesterday. I see Men. Strong. In shape. Some young. Some old. Women. Strong. In shape. Some young. Some old. White people. Black people. Asian people. People from different communities. Backgrounds. I am guessing their was numerous different Religions practiced among them. I am also confident that many of them have voted to the "left" and many voted to the "right" over the years. None of that stuff matters. Teamwork. Execution. Discipline. The best people. Heroic. All of them. Buffettnews - this thread? A broken wheel going nowhere.

4 people killed - including an 8 year old boy. Thousands of active helpers - of "good."
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Rabbitz wrote:
Bicycle Bill wrote: Innocent people do not rob convenience stores, wear IEDs, shoot at police, and toss explosives at them.  They also do not hide in boats in backyards.  Innocent people do like Salah Eddin Barhoum did — when he was misidentified as a bombing suspect, he immediately went to the police himself to proclaim his innocence.

Yes, the late Mr. Tsarnaev and his brother are indeed, in the eyes of the law, presumed innocent until proven guilty.  But their actions in the aftermath of Monday's event are definitely not going to do very much to disprove the accusations against them.
So you are willing to trust the FBI on this one? Afterall, their information and their actions are intertwined in this outcome.

Don't get me wrong, if, I say again - IF, the accused is/are found guilty then may which ever deity applies have mercy on their soul. However until then, a little restraint is called for.

Their actions may or may not disprove their innocence, the incidents may or may not be related, they may or may not be guilty of one or more things - none of this has yet been proven. That is why civilised countries have the checks and balances built into their legal systems. Vigilante action is not far removed from terrorism.

The wrong person has been lynched before, especially when the pressure to get a result is applied to "justice" departments.
if i recall they admitted to the guy they hijacked , that they were in fact the marathon bombers, plus if innocent , the minute those photo's went public, i don't know about you , i'd be calling the local authorities to clear my name....not run , shooting and throwing homemade bombs at Boston Police , FBI or anyone else in pursuit....so , yes Guilty
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Rabbitz wrote:
Bicycle Bill wrote: Innocent people do not rob convenience stores, wear IEDs, shoot at police, and toss explosives at them.  They also do not hide in boats in backyards.  Innocent people do like Salah Eddin Barhoum did — when he was misidentified as a bombing suspect, he immediately went to the police himself to proclaim his innocence.

Yes, the late Mr. Tsarnaev and his brother are indeed, in the eyes of the law, presumed innocent until proven guilty.  But their actions in the aftermath of Monday's event are definitely not going to do very much to disprove the accusations against them.
So you are willing to trust the FBI on this one? Afterall, their information and their actions are intertwined in this outcome.

Don't get me wrong, if, I say again - IF, the accused is/are found guilty then may which ever deity applies have mercy on their soul. However until then, a little restraint is called for.

Their actions may or may not disprove their innocence, the incidents may or may not be related, they may or may not be guilty of one or more things - none of this has yet been proven. That is why civilised countries have the checks and balances built into their legal systems. Vigilante action is not far removed from terrorism.

The wrong person has been lynched before, especially when the pressure to get a result is applied to "justice" departments.
"Vigilante action"??? It's not like the man who discovered the guy hiding in his boat
put a round through his head and THEN called the police. The police didn't set fire
to the boat or call in an air strike. They took their time to take him in ALIVE.
So he'll get his day in court unless he decides to confess and tell the whole world
why he and his brother (who seemed to be living a pretty decent and priveliged life)
did what they did. And the taxpayers will probably be footing the bill for his defense.
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LiveandletLiver wrote:The important things are no more loss of life and maybe some answers about the train of events leading to this atrocity.
thank you for using the correct word to describe the event too many people use the wrong word
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I guess my thoughts walk a different path on the capture. If I walk out to check my boat and see a "body"
I call LEO right there and don't let them shoot up my boat..



I mean he is in MY boat and if someone is gonna shoot into that boat it's gonna be ME
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I have mixed feelings about this. I posted on FB last night that part of me wanted someone to put a bullet between his eyes but part of me wanted him taken alive. A lot of people said they wanted him alive so they could find out why he and his brother did this. That would be pretty low on my list of questions. The first 2 things I'd want to know are: 1. Were other people involved or did these 2 d-bags work alone?, and 2. Did they have other targets or was the Boston Marathon the only plan they had? And I'd be willing to bet there were other targets. With a$$holes like this, in my opinion, it's not a question of if they'll do it again, it's when they'll do it again.
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LIPH wrote:I have mixed feelings about this. I posted on FB last night that part of me wanted someone to put a bullet between his eyes but part of me wanted him taken alive. A lot of people said they wanted him alive so they could find out why he and his brother did this. That would be pretty low on my list of questions. The first 2 things I'd want to know are: 1. Were other people involved or did these 2 d-bags work alone?, and 2. Did they have other targets or was the Boston Marathon the only plan they had? And I'd be willing to bet there were other targets. With a$$holes like this, in my opinion, it's not a question of if they'll do it again, it's when they'll do it again.
That's why I was thinking that he had committed suicide, and that's why they could not find him. I figured he would not want to be taken alive so that he would not be able to divulge any information. I am really surprised that he was caught alive. But he's only 19 years old. From what I know of nineteen-year-old boys, they can be pretty erratic in their thinking. So even if he had been indoctrinated to kill himself rather than be caught, he might not be able to follow through when the situation actually arises.
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