Tiki Torches wrote:I'm curious as to what that explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas has to do with the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon on Monday? I realize anything of that nature in the wake of the bombings is gone be suspicious but I wouldn't naturally assume that it's connected to it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm a big believer in reserving judgement until all the facts are in.
I also don't get the amateur sleuthing of the 4chan thing, apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown". I know racism runs rampant in this country but it also seems like we would have learned something from racial profiling by now. I also realize that lots of people have been very quick to judge in this instance. Truth is, we have no idea who or what is responsible for this very horrific incident. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped a lot of people from placing blame when they have absolutely nothing to go on.
I never said it was connected, just weird timing. 4chan labeled the wrong people more than just the brown ones, the media then made it seem like they were right. The Post ran it and Fox News did too. People on this message board were labeling the bombers as "immigrants".
Actually what you said was "coincidence?" Lots of news outlets, even ones far more reputable than The New York Post and Fox News have been running unconfirmed reports. I don't think "people" on this board were labeling the bombers as immigrants, only one board member did that.
msu#1 wrote:Looks like one of the real bombers is somewhat white at least.
I'm not sure why race or nationality is important. The reasons behind the bombings will come out soon enough. To my way of thinking, the most important thing at this point is that the suspects are apprehended. Far too many people are eager to immediately place blame before any facts surrounding the bombings are even in. This is a time when you'd think it'd be crucial that people come together. I've seen a fair amount of that this week but I've also seen the exact opposite.
Tiki Torches wrote:I'm curious as to what that explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas has to do with the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon on Monday? I realize anything of that nature in the wake of the bombings is gone be suspicious but I wouldn't naturally assume that it's connected to it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm a big believer in reserving judgement until all the facts are in.
I also don't get the amateur sleuthing of the 4chan thing, apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown". I know racism runs rampant in this country but it also seems like we would have learned something from racial profiling by now. I also realize that lots of people have been very quick to judge in this instance. Truth is, we have no idea who or what is responsible for this very horrific incident. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped a lot of people from placing blame when they have absolutely nothing to go on.
I never said it was connected, just weird timing. 4chan labeled the wrong people more than just the brown ones, the media then made it seem like they were right. The Post ran it and Fox News did too. People on this message board were labeling the bombers as "immigrants".
Actually what you said was "coincidence?" Lots of news outlets, even ones far more reputable than The New York Post and Fox News have been running unconfirmed reports. I don't think "people" on this board were labeling the bombers as immigrants, only one board member did that.
msu#1 wrote:Looks like one of the real bombers is somewhat white at least.
I'm not sure why race or nationality is important. because you were the one who brought it up. "apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown" "The reasons behind the bombings will come out soon enough. To my way of thinking, the most important thing at this point is that the suspects are apprehended. Far too many people are eager to immediately place blame before any facts surrounding the bombings are even in. This is a time when you'd think it'd be crucial that people come together. I've seen a fair amount of that this week but I've also seen the exact opposite.
ok fine, whatever keep trying to paint what I posted into your story your creating.
Tiki Torches wrote:I'm curious as to what that explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas has to do with the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon on Monday? I realize anything of that nature in the wake of the bombings is gone be suspicious but I wouldn't naturally assume that it's connected to it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm a big believer in reserving judgement until all the facts are in.
I also don't get the amateur sleuthing of the 4chan thing, apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown". I know racism runs rampant in this country but it also seems like we would have learned something from racial profiling by now. I also realize that lots of people have been very quick to judge in this instance. Truth is, we have no idea who or what is responsible for this very horrific incident. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped a lot of people from placing blame when they have absolutely nothing to go on.
I never said it was connected, just weird timing. 4chan labeled the wrong people more than just the brown ones, the media then made it seem like they were right. The Post ran it and Fox News did too. People on this message board were labeling the bombers as "immigrants".
Actually what you said was "coincidence?" Lots of news outlets, even ones far more reputable than The New York Post and Fox News have been running unconfirmed reports. I don't think "people" on this board were labeling the bombers as immigrants, only one board member did that.
msu#1 wrote:Looks like one of the real bombers is somewhat white at least.
I'm not sure why race or nationality is important. because you were the one who brought it up. "apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown" "The reasons behind the bombings will come out soon enough. To my way of thinking, the most important thing at this point is that the suspects are apprehended. Far too many people are eager to immediately place blame before any facts surrounding the bombings are even in. This is a time when you'd think it'd be crucial that people come together. I've seen a fair amount of that this week but I've also seen the exact opposite.
ok fine, whatever keep trying to paint what I posted into your story your creating.
I'm not trying to "create" anything. I'm not sure why you put what I said about the 4chan post into bold as I thought we'd already addressed that. I don't have a beef with you at all, I just thought posting video of the explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas in this thread was a bit premature as there's nothing whatsoever connecting it to the bombings in Boston (at least that I'm aware of). My point in general is not even directed at you, it's directed at anyone that's so quick to place blame before there are even any facts to go on. Lots of folks have been guilty of that this past week, not the least of which has been our own media. That wasn't directed at you at all. If you want to interpret it that way, that's up to you.
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Tiki Torches wrote:I'm curious as to what that explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas has to do with the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon on Monday? I realize anything of that nature in the wake of the bombings is gone be suspicious but I wouldn't naturally assume that it's connected to it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm a big believer in reserving judgement until all the facts are in.
I also don't get the amateur sleuthing of the 4chan thing, apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown". I know racism runs rampant in this country but it also seems like we would have learned something from racial profiling by now. I also realize that lots of people have been very quick to judge in this instance. Truth is, we have no idea who or what is responsible for this very horrific incident. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped a lot of people from placing blame when they have absolutely nothing to go on.
my first thoughts when I saw the pictures of the two guys wearing caps that are supposedly, "of interest" was, "If these guys really did it, at least there shouldn't be a lot of racial/ethnic hysteria"
Tiki Torches wrote:I'm curious as to what that explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas has to do with the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon on Monday? I realize anything of that nature in the wake of the bombings is gone be suspicious but I wouldn't naturally assume that it's connected to it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm a big believer in reserving judgement until all the facts are in.
I also don't get the amateur sleuthing of the 4chan thing, apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown". I know racism runs rampant in this country but it also seems like we would have learned something from racial profiling by now. I also realize that lots of people have been very quick to judge in this instance. Truth is, we have no idea who or what is responsible for this very horrific incident. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped a lot of people from placing blame when they have absolutely nothing to go on.
my first thoughts when I saw the pictures of the two guys wearing caps that are supposedly, "of interest" was, "If these guys really did it, at least there shouldn't be a lot of racial/ethnic hysteria"
Interesting article on that very topic from Salon though I don't necessarily agree with the attention grabbing headline.
Tiki Torches wrote:I'm curious as to what that explosion at the fertilizer plant in Texas has to do with the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon on Monday? I realize anything of that nature in the wake of the bombings is gone be suspicious but I wouldn't naturally assume that it's connected to it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm a big believer in reserving judgement until all the facts are in.
I also don't get the amateur sleuthing of the 4chan thing, apparently part of the criteria was that one of the people in the photo is "brown". I know racism runs rampant in this country but it also seems like we would have learned something from racial profiling by now. I also realize that lots of people have been very quick to judge in this instance. Truth is, we have no idea who or what is responsible for this very horrific incident. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped a lot of people from placing blame when they have absolutely nothing to go on.
my first thoughts when I saw the pictures of the two guys wearing caps that are supposedly, "of interest" was, "If these guys really did it, at least there shouldn't be a lot of racial/ethnic hysteria"
Interesting article on that very topic from Salon though I don't necessarily agree with the attention grabbing headline.
yeah, not going to claim that I was the only one to have the thought, and I had not seen the article you pointed out. It is interesting, and when the first, panicked reports out of Boston claimed a Saudi national was involved, I was worried this would be a reason to ratchet up the terror-colour index to pants-soiling brown...
If my handsome mug were to appear in crowd shots
in some places of the world,
and my activities warranted some group,
say 4chan ...
to analyze those photos and
then in subsequently enhanced photos
circle my .... again .... "handsome mug"
in said photo enhancement ....
..... should I
or anyone else ....
be angered
if one of the descriptive labels put
on that photo listed me as "white"?
This is one of the things that is wrong with the internet and the blogosphere. Any knucklehead with a keyboard and internet access (and I'm looking at you, Alex Jones) can post whatever accusations, innuendoes, and hair-brained theories that they want to, and there are enough other people with marshmallows for brains who read that stuff, believe it, and spread it. End result is that in almost any incident or news story one finds that the truth gets buried by the bullshіt and it's like looking for a needle in a haystack to separate the two.
And as an aside, the reason a lot of people are willing to believe that the fertilizer plant going 'boom' in the Waco area is connected with the Boston incident and domestic terrorism in general is due to the fact that the climactic attack on the Branch Davidian compound, also outside Waco, occurred twenty years ago on 4/19/93 so anything happening around that time is going to automatically draw someone to make a tenuous connection. If a tornado were to hit Waco tomorrow someone somewhere would be sure to say that it is all related somehow. -"BB"-
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." "Some of it's magic, and some of it's tragic, but I've had a good life all the way."
Bicycle Bill wrote:This is one of the things that is wrong with the internet and the blogosphere. Any knucklehead with a keyboard and internet access (and I'm looking at you, Alex Jones) can post whatever accusations, innuendoes, and hair-brained theories that they want to, and there are enough other people with marshmallows for brains who read that stuff, believe it, and spread it. End result is that in almost any incident or news story one finds that the truth gets buried by the bullshіt and it's like looking for a needle in a haystack to separate the two.
And as an aside, the reason a lot of people are willing to believe that the fertilizer plant going 'boom' in the Waco area is connected with the Boston incident and domestic terrorism in general is due to the fact that the climactic attack on the Branch Davidian compound, also outside Waco, occurred twenty years ago on 4/19/93 so anything happening around that time is going to automatically draw someone to make a tenuous connection. If a tornado were to hit Waco tomorrow someone somewhere would be sure to say that it is all related somehow. -"BB"-
I'd sooner blame a bad batch of original recipe Dr. Pepper
SMLCHNG wrote:How about we just give some respect to those in Boston, and those in Texas, without adding more to, or taking away from each situation?
I don't see how discussing what the entire nation is talking about is "adding more to, or taking away from each situation" or is being disrespectful, especially as long as the conversation remains civil. Obviously, there's a lot of anger, grief and disbelief at work here as well as other emotions. I have the utmost respect for the lives lost and the people injured in Boston and have been very vocal about refraining from any sort of speculation but I see absolutely no harm in discussing the bombings. I'm sure it'd be much more convenient just to sweep the whole thing under the rug and act as though it never happened but that isn't the world we're living in in 2013.
msu#1 wrote:update: one subject got away, 2nd person was victim. Subject 1 is shooting again.
I just heard that they got the second guy.
But it turned out to be wrong. Someone was arrested, but not him.
The suspect on the left is dead, the one on the right is still on the loose per the Boston Globe. Article here. Live coverage via WCVB in Boston at this link.
This is the most recent photo of the suspect that remains at large:
I've been watching and following this all night (mostly CNN)
as I've worked on my book (writing not reading).
I usually work until about 4am but tonight just stayed up.
These events have unfolded all night and continue
as I type iwith breaking minute-by-minute changes.
A massive, massive manhunt is underway.
Amazing. Tragic. Scary. Heroic. Everything.
surfpirate wrote:I've been watching and following this all night (mostly CNN)
as I've worked on my book (writing not reading).
I usually work until about 4am but tonight just stayed up.
These events have unfolded all night and continue
as I type iwith breaking minute-by-minute changes.
A massive, massive manhunt is underway.
Amazing. Tragic. Scary. Heroic. Everything.
I've been watching this all unfold on our local news , they sent many crews up there. ... it's like watching a movie , but it's real life....crazy!!!!
