Sir, I am intrigued by your viewpoint, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.bigjohn wrote:No one is asking if you like the music of those two artist. The point is, they are charging half the price of Jimmy and they will sell out just as quick. Oh, also, both of those artist let people who belong to their fan club purchase tickets before the general public, something that Jimmy does not do. Plus, the longer you have been in the fan club, the better the seats you will get.ScarletB wrote:Well said!rednekkPH wrote:After purchasing the amount of drugs it takes to fry your brain so badly that Pearl Jam or Dave Matthews sound good, there simply isn't much money left for tickets.LIPH wrote:Demographics would have something to do with it. Buffett attracts an older, and presumably wealthier, crowd than Pearl Jam or Dave Mathews.
And to say that it's the venue who may be realizing that they have a cash cow, give me a break. If Buffett wanted to change it, he could.
Again, look outside the box for once
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Did you notice how he failed to address my comment about the demographics and your question about Pearl Jam's and DMB's ability to sell the same number of tickets at Buffett's price level? Must be too far outside the box.CaptainP wrote:I wanna know who all these people are who are trapped inside boxes???LIPH wrote:That's twice I've seen "look outside the box." Must be a marketing major.
I thought they were called cubicles.
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here
Not sure what you mean and I am not trying start anything. I just can not rationalize why an artist would charge $126 for a concert ticket. If it's for a charity event etc...hey, I am all for it. However, it does bother me when artists gouge the public as I feel Jimmy is doing. I do not see why he has to charge the amount of money he is charging. I have been to over 400 concerts in my life (from Neil Diamond to Motley Crue) and I am 32 (probably 250 between the Dead and Bruce) and w/in the last 3 years, I think besides Bruce and The Dead (Ratdog, Phil and Friends etc..) I have seen 8 concerts and the main reason is ticket price. I guess it's just on principle now but again, to me there is no justification to charge that amount of money. Hey, I love Bruce but I also have ripped him. I am not happy about putting out an album of Pete Seeger music when he can go into his catalouge and release a ton of prviously unreleased material and Clerance is also getting up there in age so I know that being greedy, I want one more full band door.
My main point is, I am just not sure how anyone can justify the prices this year. And I hate the argument that if you do not like it, do not go. Tell that to a middle class family of 4 where they would love to go however they do not have $600 to spend on 4 tickets to see a 2 1/2 concert
My main point is, I am just not sure how anyone can justify the prices this year. And I hate the argument that if you do not like it, do not go. Tell that to a middle class family of 4 where they would love to go however they do not have $600 to spend on 4 tickets to see a 2 1/2 concert
So basically,you are saying it's ok for Jimmy to gouge his audience...Ok, I see your pointLIPH wrote:Did you notice how he failed to address my comment about the demographics and your question about Pearl Jam's and DMB's ability to sell the same number of tickets at Buffett's price level? Must be too far outside the box.CaptainP wrote:I wanna know who all these people are who are trapped inside boxes???LIPH wrote:That's twice I've seen "look outside the box." Must be a marketing major.
I thought they were called cubicles.
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Define gouging. Jimmy gets paid the same amount of money whether the tickets cost $126, $40, or $5. The venue pays him to play. The venue sells the tickets.bigjohn wrote:So basically,you are saying it's ok for Jimmy to gouge his audience...Ok, I see your pointLIPH wrote:Did you notice how he failed to address my comment about the demographics and your question about Pearl Jam's and DMB's ability to sell the same number of tickets at Buffett's price level? Must be too far outside the box.CaptainP wrote:I wanna know who all these people are who are trapped inside boxes???LIPH wrote:That's twice I've seen "look outside the box." Must be a marketing major.
I thought they were called cubicles.
His is an expensive show to produce, and NOBODY here has shown any proof that he has raised HIS rates.
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Gouging is what scalpers, brokers and people who buy ticket for the sole purpose of re-selling them on eBay do.bigjohn wrote:So basically,you are saying it's ok for Jimmy to gouge his audience...Ok, I see your pointLIPH wrote:Did you notice how he failed to address my comment about the demographics and your question about Pearl Jam's and DMB's ability to sell the same number of tickets at Buffett's price level? Must be too far outside the box.CaptainP wrote:I wanna know who all these people are who are trapped inside boxes???LIPH wrote:That's twice I've seen "look outside the box." Must be a marketing major.
I thought they were called cubicles.
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here
If this is the case, I am incorrect. I assumed, although I may be wrong that if an artist would charge $25 and the venue sells out...while another artist charges $100 and the venue sells out...artist 2 would make 4 times as much money..This is why I think the Stones (the biggest whores in the world) were the leading grossing tour last year. Again though, I could me wrongCaptainP wrote:Define gouging. Jimmy gets paid the same amount of money whether the tickets cost $126, $40, or $5. The venue pays him to play. The venue sells the tickets.bigjohn wrote:So basically,you are saying it's ok for Jimmy to gouge his audience...Ok, I see your pointLIPH wrote:Did you notice how he failed to address my comment about the demographics and your question about Pearl Jam's and DMB's ability to sell the same number of tickets at Buffett's price level? Must be too far outside the box.CaptainP wrote:I wanna know who all these people are who are trapped inside boxes???LIPH wrote:That's twice I've seen "look outside the box." Must be a marketing major.
I thought they were called cubicles.
His is an expensive show to produce, and NOBODY here has shown any proof that he has raised HIS rates.
I believe Jimmy has more money than 99% of us and to me, there is no need to charge this amount of money to one of his shows.
Let me ask you this...Do you think that there will be some people out there who really want to go however becuase of the prices, will not go?
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A combination of things, I suppose.bigjohn wrote:No one is asking if you like the music of those two artist. The point is, they are charging half the price of Jimmy and they will sell out just as quick. Oh, also, both of those artist let people who belong to their fan club purchase tickets before the general public, something that Jimmy does not do. Plus, the longer you have been in the fan club, the better the seats you will get.ScarletB wrote:Well said!rednekkPH wrote:After purchasing the amount of drugs it takes to fry your brain so badly that Pearl Jam or Dave Matthews sound good, there simply isn't much money left for tickets.LIPH wrote:Demographics would have something to do with it. Buffett attracts an older, and presumably wealthier, crowd than Pearl Jam or Dave Mathews.
And to say that it's the venue who may be realizing that they have a cash cow, give me a break. If Buffett wanted to change it, he could.
Again, look outside the box for once
I'm sure Buffett has the power to structure ticket sales, contracts, etc. as he chooses. And, I'd expect ticket prices are managed through the contract between the venue and artist...leverage depends on the artist, and supply/demand are a part of price (I'm sure Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews will be playing more shows in a tour than Buffett).
Now, where's my box?
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Again, it's not the artist charging that much for the tickets, it is the venue. The artist charges the venue to have them play. Now, it is true that Jimmy might be forcing them to charge that much for tickets by making HIS fee large, but you have to consider everything that goes into producing such an event. It is HUGE.bigjohn wrote: If this is the case, I am incorrect. I assumed, although I may be wrong that if an artist would charge $25 and the venue sells out...while another artist charges $100 and the venue sells out...artist 2 would make 4 times as much money..
We live in a Capitalistic society. As much as we may idolize Jimmy Buffett, or any other performer for that matter, the truth of the matter is, they are in the entertainment BUSINESS, and that business is ruled by money.bigjohn wrote: I believe Jimmy has more money than 99% of us and to me, there is no need to charge this amount of money to one of his shows.
Yes. And it is unfortunate, but this is the reality of living in the United States of America in 2006. You can't always get what you want.bigjohn wrote:
Let me ask you this...Do you think that there will be some people out there who really want to go however becuase of the prices, will not go?
Pearl Jam played 23 shows last year....Was that much more than Jimmy? If it's supply and demand....why does he charge the same amount of money in Camden then in Mass where he is playing two night?Quiet and Shy wrote:A combination of things, I suppose.bigjohn wrote:No one is asking if you like the music of those two artist. The point is, they are charging half the price of Jimmy and they will sell out just as quick. Oh, also, both of those artist let people who belong to their fan club purchase tickets before the general public, something that Jimmy does not do. Plus, the longer you have been in the fan club, the better the seats you will get.ScarletB wrote:Well said!rednekkPH wrote:After purchasing the amount of drugs it takes to fry your brain so badly that Pearl Jam or Dave Matthews sound good, there simply isn't much money left for tickets.LIPH wrote:Demographics would have something to do with it. Buffett attracts an older, and presumably wealthier, crowd than Pearl Jam or Dave Mathews.
And to say that it's the venue who may be realizing that they have a cash cow, give me a break. If Buffett wanted to change it, he could.
Again, look outside the box for once
I'm sure Buffett has the power to structure ticket sales, contracts, etc. as he chooses. And, I'd expect ticket prices are managed through the contract between the venue and artist...leverage depends on the artist, and supply/demand are a part of price (I'm sure Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews will be playing more shows in a tour than Buffett).
Now, where's my box?
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Gross is based solely on ticket sales...net to the artist is completely different (but undoubtedly related to gross).bigjohn wrote:If this is the case, I am incorrect. I assumed, although I may be wrong that if an artist would charge $25 and the venue sells out...while another artist charges $100 and the venue sells out...artist 2 would make 4 times as much money..This is why I think the Stones (the biggest whores in the world) were the leading grossing tour last year. Again though, I could me wrongCaptainP wrote:Define gouging. Jimmy gets paid the same amount of money whether the tickets cost $126, $40, or $5. The venue pays him to play. The venue sells the tickets.bigjohn wrote:So basically,you are saying it's ok for Jimmy to gouge his audience...Ok, I see your pointLIPH wrote:Did you notice how he failed to address my comment about the demographics and your question about Pearl Jam's and DMB's ability to sell the same number of tickets at Buffett's price level? Must be too far outside the box.CaptainP wrote:I wanna know who all these people are who are trapped inside boxes???LIPH wrote:That's twice I've seen "look outside the box." Must be a marketing major.
I thought they were called cubicles.
His is an expensive show to produce, and NOBODY here has shown any proof that he has raised HIS rates.
I believe Jimmy has more money than 99% of us and to me, there is no need to charge this amount of money to one of his shows.
Let me ask you this...Do you think that there will be some people out there who really want to go however becuase of the prices, will not go?
And, I think Jimmy may have more money than 99% of us put together.
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Probably. But do you think the tickets they would have bought if the price were lower will go unsold?bigjohn wrote:Let me ask you this...Do you think that there will be some people out there who really want to go however becuase of the prices, will not go?
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ticket prices
not sure why anyone is dumb enough to think that Nissan, or any venue, sets the price for shows and Jimmy gets paid to play. That is absurd and wrong.
JB and all artist set their ticket prices. the venue gets a percentage of the sales and all concessions. trust me, I know someone who works in that industry.
If you are that dumb to think that the venue sets the prices, then you are also saying that all the venues on his tour had a meeting and decided to set the exact same prices as everyone else!!! come on.
Let's get back to one common response here. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE OF THE TICKET, THEN DON'T GO. SIMPLE AS THAT....................................................................
JB and all artist set their ticket prices. the venue gets a percentage of the sales and all concessions. trust me, I know someone who works in that industry.
If you are that dumb to think that the venue sets the prices, then you are also saying that all the venues on his tour had a meeting and decided to set the exact same prices as everyone else!!! come on.
Let's get back to one common response here. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE OF THE TICKET, THEN DON'T GO. SIMPLE AS THAT....................................................................

