Red Sox vs. Yankees Rounds 11-15

tequilatom · Post by **tequilatom** » August 19, 2006 9:35 pm

BottleofRum wrote:
job41475 wrote:A series win by Saturday evening and a guarantee of leaving no worse than 2.5 games up. life is good!

The winner of the AL east has not won the World Series this century. The Wildcard is where it's at

i love the way you think and you optimism.......but if they keep playing like this....they are done......other than the Orioles series......if i heard right they haven't won a series since the All-star break!!...This i think was coming from Tim McCarver...so i consider the source!!

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » August 19, 2006 9:42 pm

tequilatom wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
job41475 wrote:A series win by Saturday evening and a guarantee of leaving no worse than 2.5 games up. life is good!

The winner of the AL east has not won the World Series this century. The Wildcard is where it's at
i love the way you think and you optimism.......but if they keep playing like this....they are done......other than the Orioles series......if i heard right they haven't won a series since the All-star break!!...This i think was coming from Tim McCarver...so i consider the source!!

Whoever doesn't win the East is far from a lock for the Wildcard obviously. A division win may be the only way in.

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » August 19, 2006 9:50 pm

tequilatom wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
job41475 wrote:A series win by Saturday evening and a guarantee of leaving no worse than 2.5 games up. life is good!

The winner of the AL east has not won the World Series this century. The Wildcard is where it's at
i love the way you think and you optimism.......but if they keep playing like this....they are done......other than the Orioles series......if i heard right they haven't won a series since the All-star break!!...This i think was coming from Tim McCarver...so i consider the source!!

I said 2 weeks ago they would be out of it by Labor Day weekend so I am not that optimistic

I had to look because there was a good chance McCarver was right

but of course he is wrong

since the All Star break they have won 3 series (Swept KC, won 2 of 3 at Oakland and swept Baltimore) and in between they were swept by KC, lost 2 out of 3 @ TB and from 7/26 to 8/10 if not for 3 walkoff hits they would of lost 13 of 14 games.

It all adds up to not a good 4 weeks.

bixxx · Post by **bixxx** » August 19, 2006 10:20 pm

as the great poet "Kramer " once said "I'm out" Thank God I sold my seats this weekend for mucho money to a NY fan. If you are going down, at least make some money GO PATS

jonesbeach10 · Post by **jonesbeach10** » August 19, 2006 11:16 pm

BottleofRum wrote:
job41475 wrote:A series win by Saturday evening and a guarantee of leaving no worse than 2.5 games up. life is good!

The winner of the AL east has not won the World Series this century. The Wildcard is where it's at

So the White Sox are repeating this year?

jonesbeach10 · Post by **jonesbeach10** » August 19, 2006 11:22 pm

tequilatom wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:
tequilatom wrote:i don't believe in Prospects coming right in and playing
I do. I believe one of those prospects hit a 3 run homer today. Another one got the win in the first game, and a third is batting .294 and playing a great left-field. So much for a depleted farm system
and they were in the minors for a while working there way up....Hansen is a year out of college!!!!

But Hanson isn't doing that bad a job in the bullpen, and will be a very good pitcher.

The point was that the Yankee "prospects" were brought up out of necessity: last year the rotation was in shambles and Wang was brought up and provided stability to the rotation. Same with Cano when Yankee brass finally realized that Tony Womack was a disaster at second. And this year Melky Cabrera wouldn't be with the team if not for Matsui's injury. It was more in response to those that believed that the Yankees had no one in their farm system, and yet they've brought up a host of quality players the past two years.

jonesbeach10 · Post by **jonesbeach10** » August 19, 2006 11:28 pm

tequilatom wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:The difference between these two teams I think is really simple.

The Yankees have lost two of the their best players in Sheffield and Matsui and until pretty much the trading deadline were right with the Sox with Melky Cabrera and Bernie in the corner OF spots, exceeding all expectations. The Sox have lost Nixon and Varitek, and they've taken a huge hit, and are not the same team.

Oh, and that lead-off hitter the Yankees got is some player.
without those 2 ....they still had a all-star team......and a lot more depth then a lot of teams......6 everday players are all-stars......so i have a hard time with they were sticking with the Red Sox......Other than Manny & Papi...who else was a all-star.......so this poor Yankee stuff doesn't fly!!

I see what you're saying, but I along with many other Yankee fans I'm sure thought the chances of us staying afloat in the AL East and making the play-offs were slim considering the Yankees were losing 200 RBIs. Melky and Bernie were more than stopgaps.

Come to think of it, I think the biggest loss in losing Varitek was not losing his offense, but his catching. Red Sox pitching has been awful since he went down.

tequilatom · Post by **tequilatom** » August 20, 2006 7:04 am

jonesbeach10 wrote:
tequilatom wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:The difference between these two teams I think is really simple.

The Yankees have lost two of the their best players in Sheffield and Matsui and until pretty much the trading deadline were right with the Sox with Melky Cabrera and Bernie in the corner OF spots, exceeding all expectations. The Sox have lost Nixon and Varitek, and they've taken a huge hit, and are not the same team.

Oh, and that lead-off hitter the Yankees got is some player.
without those 2 ....they still had a all-star team......and a lot more depth then a lot of teams......6 everday players are all-stars......so i have a hard time with they were sticking with the Red Sox......Other than Manny & Papi...who else was a all-star.......so this poor Yankee stuff doesn't fly!!
I see what you're saying, but I along with many other Yankee fans I'm sure thought the chances of us staying afloat in the AL East and making the play-offs were slim considering the Yankees were losing 200 RBIs. Melky and Bernie were more than stopgaps.

Come to think of it, I think the biggest loss in losing Varitek was not losing his offense, but his catching. Red Sox pitching has been awful since he went down.

i was saying that to my dad yesterday....there era has gone up almost a run and a half without him!!!......The Yankee prospects established themselves in the minors 1st before they really came up!!!....plus they are surrounded by great players which takes the pressure off!!

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » August 20, 2006 7:28 am

BottleofRum wrote:And don't forget who is lurking and just waiting for the call to help out....

He's peeking

you better bust him all the way out... it's time

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » August 20, 2006 7:36 am

job41475 wrote:
RAGTOP wrote:stayed right till the end and was lucky enough to see yet another Erod error.
Ok that's a deal. You take satisfaction in an A-Rod error and I'll take an additional two game lead.

at this point I have to take comfort in the small things

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » August 20, 2006 8:35 am

RAGTOP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
RAGTOP wrote:stayed right till the end and was lucky enough to see yet another Erod error.
Ok that's a deal. You take satisfaction in an A-Rod error and I'll take an additional two game lead.
at this point I have to take comfort in the small things

Fair enough.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » August 20, 2006 11:08 am

RAGTOP wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:And don't forget who is lurking and just waiting for the call to help out....

He's peeking

you better bust him all the way out... it's time

DEAR GOD, ALLMIGHTY,
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE- NOT THAT RIDICULOUS THING AGAIN!!!

jonesbeach10 · Post by **jonesbeach10** » August 20, 2006 11:28 am

Wino you know wrote:
RAGTOP wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:And don't forget who is lurking and just waiting for the call to help out....

He's peeking

you better bust him all the way out... it's time
DEAR GOD, ALLMIGHTY,
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE- NOT THAT RIDICULOUS THING AGAIN!!!

And then we're gonna have to explain yet again to some newbie the significance of RJ.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » August 20, 2006 11:51 am

I'd rather look at Hillary Clinton than that THING!

allright, so saying I'd rather look at Hillary Clinton may be a stretch.

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » August 20, 2006 11:57 am

RJ brought us a World Series Championship in 2004, stumbled a bit in 05 when he made an appearance but he has regained momentum for 2006!!!! The hedge hog lives baby!

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » August 20, 2006 12:33 pm

RAGTOP wrote:RJ brought us a World Series Championship in 2004, stumbled a bit in 05 when he made an appearance but he has regained momentum for 2006!!!! The hedge hog lives baby!

He got the Red Sox the World Series in 2004 and into the playoff last year when thinngs look bleak the final week of the season.

I don't want to use him in August unless we absoultly have to, lets give it a few more days.

parrotsgirl · Post by **parrotsgirl** » August 20, 2006 3:41 pm

BottleofRum wrote:
RAGTOP wrote:RJ brought us a World Series Championship in 2004, stumbled a bit in 05 when he made an appearance but he has regained momentum for 2006!!!! The hedge hog lives baby!
He got the Red Sox the World Series in 2004 and into the playoff last year when thinngs look bleak the final week of the season.

I don't want to use him in August unless we absoultly have to, lets give it a few more days.

if the next few days are like the last....can we maybe bring him out a lil earlier??

tequilatom · Post by **tequilatom** » August 21, 2006 8:12 am

all i can say is pitching,pitching,pitching........Sox don't have it!!!

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » August 21, 2006 8:25 am

BOR you better bust the hog all the way out!

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » August 21, 2006 9:10 am

tequilatom wrote:all i can say is pitching,pitching,pitching........Sox don't have it!!!

I have said many many times Terry Fancona is a very overrated mananger. Last night in the 8th inning he was exposed on national TV just how bad he is.