need an opinion.....

tryin' to reason · Post by **tryin' to reason** » July 21, 2003 2:04 pm

Caribbeansoooul wrote:Kitty,

IMHO with tickets so hard to come by parrotheads should sell to parrotheads for face value.

Agree.

Tickets are tough enough to get at a "reasonable" price already.
Why inflate the price to a PH to benefit a charity??
A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks. I got my GW pavilion ticket "cheap" from a phan with the same philosophy!!

kitty · Post by **kitty** » July 21, 2003 5:04 pm

tryin' to reason wrote:
Caribbeansoooul wrote:Kitty,

IMHO with tickets so hard to come by parrotheads should sell to parrotheads for face value.
Agree.

Tickets are tough enough to get at a "reasonable" price already.
Why inflate the price to a PH to benefit a charity??
A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks. I got my GW pavilion ticket "cheap" from a phan with the same philosophy!!

wow! you really surprise me with your response! You think going to a concert for a cheap price is more importanat than trying to help find a cure for leukemia?? Try telling that to a parent who has watched their child die at age 5 from the desease.....I bet they would have rather gone to a concert than sit in a hospital bed and watch their child suffer.

TheSecretsInTheCrust · Post by **TheSecretsInTheCrust** » July 21, 2003 5:06 pm

kitty wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote:
Caribbeansoooul wrote:Kitty,

IMHO with tickets so hard to come by parrotheads should sell to parrotheads for face value.
Agree.

Tickets are tough enough to get at a "reasonable" price already.
Why inflate the price to a PH to benefit a charity??
A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks. I got my GW pavilion ticket "cheap" from a phan with the same philosophy!!

wow! you really surprise me with your response! You think going to a concert for a cheap price is more importanat than trying to help find a cure for leukemia?? Try telling that to a parent who has watched their child die at age 5 from the desease.....I bet they would have rather gone to a concert than sit in a hospital bed and watch their child suffer.

Kitty...well said. It looks like you have several ideas on how to handle this. I'm sure you will find a way that allows you to help leukemia and PH's at the same time. Good luck!

MICHIPHIN · Post by **MICHIPHIN** » July 21, 2003 5:08 pm

kitty wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:Just sell them for what you can get for them. If you have good seats, heck thats a little more money for ya---with that money--go ahead and buy a few overpriced tshirts and drinks at the show.
maybe you missed my point...the piont is I don't want any profit for me...it is a desire to earn money to donate to Leukemia...

You could always donate to the "Buy Michi a Mercedes" fund...

SwissArmyKnife · Post by **SwissArmyKnife** » July 21, 2003 5:17 pm

NYCPORT wrote:
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:have you considered selling them here first as a charity "event"?

considering the generousity of most of the folks here, someone might want to buy them just to donate the money to charity.

if nobody buys 'em then scalp 'em for charity at the door.
I think this is the best idea so far. If it doesn't work there is always Ebay.

Second that motion... wish I could get north - I'd be happy to "bid" on this site for them.

You could also consider throwing some of the proceeds towards bandwidth fot THIS site... appears BN has been exceeding their quota?

G

ps. (Hi Kitty)

Twelve Volt Cop · Post by **Twelve Volt Cop** » July 21, 2003 8:59 pm

They're your tickets, so do with them what you want. You're obviously very concerned about such a worthy cause, so don't worry about what others think. The person that ends up buying them will obviously be satisfied with the price of the tickets, or he/she wouldn't have bought them in the first place. The bottom line is that your idea benefits a very important cause. As much as I love to see Jimmy in concert, I wouldn't blame you if the price was more than I was willing to pay.

Ceol na Mara · Post by **Ceol na Mara** » July 21, 2003 9:20 pm

wTVCs

I saw someone on ebay a few months ago do just what you want to do.
I think it's a good idea to offer them here first, maybe with an unwritten idea of how much you want/expect to get. Set a time limit. If you don't get what you think they should get here, then go to ebay. Leave yourself time to do that.

Re selling at the door: if they were lawn, ok. But good seats surprisingly are hard to sell at the last minute. I speak from experience! Both Orlando and Camden I sold tickets below face. And they were really good seats.

As far as supposedly depriving a fellow PH of face-value tickets, well some things are just more important. Go for it, Kitty. It'd be nice if a real PH has the highest bid, but even if one doesn't, finding a cure for leukemia is more important, and every little bit helps. I know parents who have lost children, friends who have lost siblings, a newly wed who lost his wife. And now my friend and neighbor two houses away with a husband and two children under high school age has been diagnosed with CML. I'll tell her what you're doing. Go for it, Kitty. God bless you.

Lupy · Post by **Lupy** » July 21, 2003 9:44 pm

I wasn't going to jump in too much on this one but well, here I go......it is wonderful that you want to donate the money to the Leukemia Society,ever little bit helps!! Now for those who said about not giving it to charity.....one thing the society does is help people get the drugs they need. For those that have CML(like myself)the drug that shows the best chance for a "cure" is very very pricey! If you are lucky enough to have insurance and they pay a part of it,its a good thing. Mind you this is a drug that has to be taken the rest of your life.....the low end dose......cost for those who DO NOT have insurance is.....around $2,400 a MONTH!!! Even for those who have insurance the co-pay is still shocking. Sorry didn't mean to get on a soap box here but it kills me to hear "A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks". There are true phans out there that need that charity to get those few buck!
O.k. off the soapbox!

PS...Ceol na Mara you have a PM

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 21, 2003 9:52 pm

tryin' to reason wrote:A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks.

I would happily give up EVER seeing Buffett again if even one person's life could be saved, and I suspect that most "true phans" would feel that way. Yes, seeing Jimmy is important to me, but really - it's nothing compared to the pain and suffering endured by those with lukemia and their families.

I second the charity auction idea Kitty - that way everyone knows what's up and they can participate if they're a "true phan".

pirate@43 · Post by **pirate@43** » July 21, 2003 10:07 pm

Key Lime Lee wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote:A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks.
I would happily give up EVER seeing Buffett again if even one person's life could be saved, and I suspect that most "true phans" would feel that way. Yes, seeing Jimmy is important to me, but really - it's nothing compared to the pain and suffering endured by those with lukemia and their families.

I second the charity auction idea Kitty - that way everyone knows what's up and they can participate if they're a "true phan".

What Lee said!!! Go for it Kitty, and if you need it you can have mine.

Phins1026 · Post by **Phins1026** » July 21, 2003 10:13 pm

Sounds like a great and gracious idea Kitty. Go for it.

PHAW Webmistress · Post by **PHAW Webmistress** » July 21, 2003 10:30 pm

Lupy wrote:I wasn't going to jump in too much on this one but well, here I go......it is wonderful that you want to donate the money to the Leukemia Society,ever little bit helps!! Now for those who said about not giving it to charity.....one thing the society does is help people get the drugs they need. For those that have CML(like myself)the drug that shows the best chance for a "cure" is very very pricey! If you are lucky enough to have insurance and they pay a part of it,its a good thing. Mind you this is a drug that has to be taken the rest of your life.....the low end dose......cost for those who DO NOT have insurance is.....around $2,400 a MONTH!!! Even for those who have insurance the co-pay is still shocking. Sorry didn't mean to get on a soap box here but it kills me to hear "A true phan needs a ticket much more than a charity needs a few more bucks". There are true phans out there that need that charity to get those few buck!
O.k. off the soapbox!
PS...Ceol na Mara you have a PM

Here here!!!!!

((((Lupy))))

Post by **SMLCHNG** » July 21, 2003 10:51 pm

I'm pretty much thinking that you've got most of our OK's here, Kitty.

I'll let you know as soon as I know on the information you wanted.

Brown Eyed Girl · Post by **Brown Eyed Girl** » July 21, 2003 11:11 pm

((((Kitty)))) You are an inspiration to us all. I have no doubt that you will figure out the perfect plan. What a terrific idea this was.

(((((Lupy))))) Your fighting spirit shines! Lots of Cali phin power being sent your way....you WILL beat this, especially with folks like Kitty helping any way they can.

As for a true fan needing to see a concert being more important than a charity fighting to find a cure for this devastating disease...

All I can say is God help you.

parrotheadedrhino · Post by **parrotheadedrhino** » July 21, 2003 11:19 pm

lot's of good thoughts here. I am a big fan of another health-based charity, but will pass on the soapbox as this is your ticket, your show. Go with your heart. But with that same heart, perhaps consider that the sentiment that seeing a show is more important than a charity, while kind of harsh, is probably more of a reaction to the ever-growing scalper presence than any kind of criticism of charities or their appropriateness and necessity.

captains wench · Post by **captains wench** » July 22, 2003 2:16 am

kitty i think wot u r doin is a great idea and i wish u all the best.
If i want tixs i would b happy to do wot u have asked and give a donation on top.

tryin' to reason · Post by **tryin' to reason** » July 22, 2003 11:18 am

parrotheadedrhino wrote:lot's of good thoughts here. I am a big fan of another health-based charity, but will pass on the soapbox as this is your ticket, your show. Go with your heart. But with that same heart, perhaps consider that the sentiment that seeing a show is more important than a charity, while kind of harsh, is probably more of a reaction to the ever-growing scalper presence than any kind of criticism of charities or their appropriateness and necessity.

Correct. Thank you.

My concern is that if this is seen as an appropriate way to raise funds for charity, it only sets off an infationary spiral on ticket prices.
We all (hopefully) give generously of our own funds to help our favorite charities. I just don't believe it's appropriate to force another PH to give to my favorite charity by inflating the price of a ticket.

P.S. It's surprising how quickly folks "pile on", even when the basic premise of the first response was totally incorrect!! It's as if there is some mythical "correct" position on every issue raised here, and God help you if you take a different position!

"Can't we all just get along?" My apologies to anyone who was offended by my position.

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 22, 2003 11:38 am

tryin' to reason wrote:P.S. It's surprising how quickly folks "pile on", even when the basic premise of the first response was totally incorrect!! It's as if there is some mythical "correct" position on every issue raised here, and God help you if you take a different position!.

People pile on when someone strikes a chord. I'm not sure the premise was incorrect... but perhaps your understanding of Kitty's motivation was. She's not trying to screw another parrothead into donating, she's trying to turn her extra tickets into something positive.

Besides, Jimmy adds $$ to every ticket for charity.

Love and Luck · Post by **Love and Luck** » July 22, 2003 11:52 am

I think you've got your answer Kitty... go for it and good luck!

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » July 22, 2003 11:53 am

tryin' to reason wrote:I just don't believe it's appropriate to force another PH to give to my favorite charity by inflating the price of a ticket..

I know I don't get here very often anymore so I don't know how much my opinion counts, not that it counts for much in places I frequent either, but here goes. I don't see it as being "forced" to donate to a charity. Just like nobody is "forced" to buy a ticket from a scalper. If anyone is willing to pay above face value in order to donate money to any charity, that's their choice. I say go for it.