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Yesterdays Piano Questions

Posted: November 12, 2003 4:06 pm
by jvman16
Sorry to start a new post with an old subject and sorry to have left you guys hanging last night. I never really thought Id get a quick response not to mention the amount of responses.

"Ceol Na Mara" has already given me a helpful response and hopefully the rest of you guys can add to it.

Well ?????? Im sure the answer to these questions are all the same............about a billion or so hours of practice. I can read music, I know my chord structures. Its Rhythems. Springsteens "Born In The USA" (for example of something everyone has probably heard)has 1 chord. B, every 2 measures he alternates the bass between b and e. It couldnt be any simpler.

The sheet music has you play 1 simple note with the left hand and the melody in the right. A long time ago someone made a simple but cool rhythem for me. It Sounds like the song and it is cool to play and sing along with. How do I look at the music and develop my own rhythemns ????????? Im 99 percent stupid when it comes to this. Do you know any books / web sites that have standard rhythmens. Ive figured out a couple on my own that sound cool (kind of, anyway) and can be played with lots of different songs. But you need atleast 2 different things to make a song sound nice. When do you play chords and when do you arpeggio ??? How do you break up the chords ??? Ill never be great but that really isnt my goal. I just want to expand some and have fun with it. Keep in mind I have a 200 dollar Yamaha keyboard. Im willing to spend some money in the future, maybe 1500 bucks for one of those digitals but not till I see myself improving. Do you think lessons would help or would they just have me playing the written sheet music ??

Oh well, if you can lend any help it would be greatly appreciated

thanks in advance
John

Posted: November 12, 2003 5:37 pm
by O2B that Honeysuckle Vine
I think last night thread was easier on the head!! :D

Re: Yesterdays Piano Questions

Posted: November 12, 2003 5:41 pm
by brettsky
jvman16 wrote:Sorry to start a new post with an old subject and sorry to have left you guys hanging last night. I never really thought Id get a quick response not to mention the amount of responses.

"Ceol Na Mara" has already given me a helpful response and hopefully the rest of you guys can add to it.

Well ?????? Im sure the answer to these questions are all the same............about a billion or so hours of practice. I can read music, I know my chord structures. Its Rhythems. Springsteens "Born In The USA" (for example of something everyone has probably heard)has 1 chord. B, every 2 measures he alternates the bass between b and e. It couldnt be any simpler.

The sheet music has you play 1 simple note with the left hand and the melody in the right. A long time ago someone made a simple but cool rhythem for me. It Sounds like the song and it is cool to play and sing along with. How do I look at the music and develop my own rhythemns ????????? Im 99 percent stupid when it comes to this. Do you know any books / web sites that have standard rhythmens. Ive figured out a couple on my own that sound cool (kind of, anyway) and can be played with lots of different songs. But you need atleast 2 different things to make a song sound nice. When do you play chords and when do you arpeggio ??? How do you break up the chords ??? Ill never be great but that really isnt my goal. I just want to expand some and have fun with it. Keep in mind I have a 200 dollar Yamaha keyboard. Im willing to spend some money in the future, maybe 1500 bucks for one of those digitals but not till I see myself improving. Do you think lessons would help or would they just have me playing the written sheet music ??

Oh well, if you can lend any help it would be greatly appreciated

thanks in advance
John
I think the most important thing is that you understand how the notes fit together. Reading music is only part of the package. Learn the scales, then let your creativity take over. My son took guitar lessions, all the guy tshowed him was how to play songs. I switched his class.

Posted: November 12, 2003 6:28 pm
by Key Lime Lee
My experience was exactly the opposite of Brettskys... :D

My first guitar lessons were all scales and it bored me to death... I wanted to know how to play songs.

But then, I wasn't in it to be a lead guitar player - I wanted to write songs.

I think it's just different for everyone depending on what they want to get out of it.

If you're looking for rhythms you could always take the tried and true approach of copying what you hear on CDs, etc. Sometimes the only way to learn is to imitate, even if it takes a while to get it. When I first started on guitar, every song had the same strumming pattern. But after I spent time trying to copy other songs, I gradually picked up different rhythms...

Posted: November 12, 2003 6:33 pm
by Stizz
Play along with the CDs, or better yet, play with people who are better than you...

Posted: November 12, 2003 6:38 pm
by brettsky
Key Lime Lee wrote:My experience was exactly the opposite of Brettskys... :D

My first guitar lessons were all scales and it bored me to death... I wanted to know how to play songs.

But then, I wasn't in it to be a lead guitar player - I wanted to write songs.

I think it's just different for everyone depending on what they want to get out of it.

If you're looking for rhythms you could always take the tried and true approach of copying what you hear on CDs, etc. Sometimes the only way to learn is to imitate, even if it takes a while to get it. When I first started on guitar, every song had the same strumming pattern. But after I spent time trying to copy other songs, I gradually picked up different rhythms...
I agree with Lee. Do what interest you. He ( my son ) and I play along with CD's all the time. I just wanted to make shure he understood what was going on.

Posted: November 12, 2003 6:40 pm
by Key Lime Lee
Stizz wrote:Play along with the CDs, or better yet, play with people who are better than you...
Yep - sucks for your ego for a while, but you do learn quick... :)