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I was just wondering about this, and maybe it's because I am a bit cynical...

I noticed that lately there's been more mention on these forums about the feed quality coming through on RM coverage of the live shows. Does anyone question whether this might be done "on purpose" given that the live CD's are now being packaged and sold? I know that there are PHs would buy copies of the CDs even if they had their own that they burned...I don't know...just seems a bit fishy to me!

Kerry

I think that they know people are recording them and they have made the quality worse to try to keep people from doing it. I know it hasn't stopped me.

I haven't listened recently but you are not going to get a high quality playback on a stream. Maybe at a subscription cost to cover the bandwidth but some people have a cap on their broadband downloads and will have to pay additional costs. Real Player's "stereo" feed went south last spring on RM.

its because of the official releases no doubt about it.

I think you guys are nuts. They broadcast every single show buffett does, and when he's not touring, they make it a point to have an old concert in it's place every night he would normally have a show.

do you really think they would do that if they didn't mind people making copies? It's just cost effective (possible?) to try and provide a CD quaility show to a large group of people who want it in real time. Please.

moog wrote:I haven't listened recently but you are not going to get a high quality playback on a stream. Maybe at a subscription cost to cover the bandwidth but some people have a cap on their broadband downloads and will have to pay additional costs. Real Player's "stereo" feed went south last spring on RM.

That was their best feed, i wish they had never wen't to the Windows Media Player.

I might be wrong but, they may have had to lower the feed quality becuase more and more people are litening and using more badwidth

I actually had better a better quality feed with Windows Media Player that Real Player either via Qwest DSL and now with Broadband.
It is far superior in my opinion as I have recorded the same show off of both in a given week. This is prior to Real Player sounding like crap.

What moog said... even in the best case scenario, the quality of a stream will NEVER compare to a soundboard recording. There's way too much compression required, and the stream will always suffer sonically compared to an un-compressed recording.

I guarantee you we have not changed a thing with the live broadcasts. The sound quality has more to do with the quality of the phone line we have access to at the show than anything.

But we'll keep trying to make things better.....Coleman at RM

Will someone explain, briefly...how the shows are broadcast? I want to learn. What do the phone lines at the venue have to do with the feed. Is it just like dial-up? Do some venues have broad-band connections?

I'm not going to attempt to speak for Coleman since he's the guy BEHIND the technology that gets the concerts broadcast, but the general gist of it (I'm assuming) would be that the concert comes out of the soundboard, gets coverted to digital via an a/d converter (and compressed) and then gets transmitted via any means available (phone line or broadband) to RM where it then gets streamed to you.

Hopefully Coleman will explain it all nice and technical.

Key Lime Lee wrote:I'm not going to attempt to speak for Coleman since he's the guy BEHIND the technology that gets the concerts broadcast, but the general gist of it (I'm assuming) would be that the concert comes out of the soundboard, gets coverted to digital via an a/d converter (and compressed) and then gets transmitted via any means available (phone line or broadband) to RM where it then gets streamed to you.

Hopefully Coleman will explain it all nice and technical.

WHAT NO MAGIC LITTLE ELVES IN THIS GRAY BOX IN FRONT OF ME

I'm just wondering why I have a concert buzz on the Rm feed, even when its not a concert replay. Anyone else have the buzz?

I've never listened to a Jimmy show where I didn't have a real good Buzz

Burny Charles wrote:I'm just wondering why I have a concert buzz on the Rm feed, even when its not a concert replay. Anyone else have the buzz?

Yeah every time i listen i have that.

Cubbie Bear wrote:I've never listened to a Jimmy show where I didn't have a real good Buzz

Yeah i knew that one was coming .

That buzz started around the same time when Windows Media Player playback was introduced. WMP is nice and clean for me. Buffering is rare on my end. (Feed end, not my end, end)

Coleman wrote:I guarantee you we have not changed a thing with the live broadcasts. The sound quality has more to do with the quality of the phone line we have access to at the show than anything.

But we'll keep trying to make things better.....Coleman at RM

Thanks for everything ya'll do, it's awsome to get to hear every live concert.