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Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 3:30 am
by 12 lb. nestle crunch
UAHparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:tommcat327 wrote:SOME CONSIDER THE BIBLE A FICTIONAL NOVEL ALSO.

Damnit, Tom - you beat me to it.

I find it ironic that most atheists are more closed minded that Christians
5+ billion people in the world and you know most of the atheist?? wow..
my point is that you should generalize. i know A LOT of christians and 98% of them are the most close-minded people ive ever met..........most of them voted for bush, too (and im not an atheist)
Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 8:38 am
by Ilph
12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:tommcat327 wrote:SOME CONSIDER THE BIBLE A FICTIONAL NOVEL ALSO.

Damnit, Tom - you beat me to it.

I find it ironic that most atheists are more closed minded that Christians
5+ billion people in the world and you know most of the atheist?? wow..
my point is that you should generalize. i know A LOT of christians and 98% of them are the most close-minded people ive ever met..........most of them voted for bush, too (and im not an atheist)
Is this comment (about being closed minded and voting for Bush) referring to 98% of the Christians you know or 98% of all of Christians? Because if it's about all of them, that's a big generalization.
Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 9:11 am
by UAHparrothead
12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:tommcat327 wrote:SOME CONSIDER THE BIBLE A FICTIONAL NOVEL ALSO.

Damnit, Tom - you beat me to it.

I find it ironic that most atheists are more closed minded that Christians
5+ billion people in the world and you know most of the atheist?? wow..
my point is that you should generalize. i know A LOT of christians and 98% of them are the most close-minded people ive ever met..........most of them voted for bush, too (and im not an atheist)
I guess my point was this, both atheism and theism are belief systems. I can't prove to people beyond a shadow of a doubt that God exists and they can't prove to me that He doesn't exist beyond a shadow of a doubt. So it takes faith on both sides of the ball. But you are right, I should not make over-generalizations, I should have said I find it ironic that most atheists
that I know are more closed minded than Christians
that I know
Posted: February 12, 2005 9:12 am
by ph4ever
My son has read Deception Point and is in the process of reading The Code. He said Deception point was great and so far so is the Code
Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 6:23 pm
by tommcat327
UAHparrothead wrote:12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:tommcat327 wrote:SOME CONSIDER THE BIBLE A FICTIONAL NOVEL ALSO.

Damnit, Tom - you beat me to it.

I find it ironic that most atheists are more closed minded that Christians
5+ billion people in the world and you know most of the atheist?? wow..
my point is that you should generalize. i know A LOT of christians and 98% of them are the most close-minded people ive ever met..........most of them voted for bush, too (and im not an atheist)
I guess my point was this, both atheism and theism are belief systems. I can't prove to people beyond a shadow of a doubt that God exists and they can't prove to me that He doesn't exist beyond a shadow of a doubt. So it takes faith on both sides of the ball. But you are right, I should not make over-generalizations, I should have said I find it ironic that most atheists
that I know are more closed minded than Christians
that I know
you cant prove something
doesnt exist,the burden of proof is on the beleiver,which they never seem to be able to come up with
and to say atheists are more closed minded than christians is ridiculous,i have NEVER heard an atheist claim that if you dont believe what they do you will be punished for it.i dont recall anywhere in history where a group of atheists killed large numbers of people to push their beliefs on others,the same cannot be said for christians,or many other religions.
Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 6:27 pm
by UAHparrothead
tommcat327 wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:tommcat327 wrote:SOME CONSIDER THE BIBLE A FICTIONAL NOVEL ALSO.

Damnit, Tom - you beat me to it.

I find it ironic that most atheists are more closed minded that Christians
5+ billion people in the world and you know most of the atheist?? wow..
my point is that you should generalize. i know A LOT of christians and 98% of them are the most close-minded people ive ever met..........most of them voted for bush, too (and im not an atheist)
I guess my point was this, both atheism and theism are belief systems. I can't prove to people beyond a shadow of a doubt that God exists and they can't prove to me that He doesn't exist beyond a shadow of a doubt. So it takes faith on both sides of the ball. But you are right, I should not make over-generalizations, I should have said I find it ironic that most atheists
that I know are more closed minded than Christians
that I know
you cant prove something
doesnt exist,the burden of proof is on the beleiver,which they never seem to be able to come up with
and to say atheists are more closed minded than christians is ridiculous,i have NEVER heard an atheist claim that if you dont believe what they do you will be punished for it.i dont recall anywhere in history where a group of atheists killed large numbers of people to push their beliefs on others,the same cannot be said for christians,or many other religions.
I have been called ignorant and foolish and a cultist for my beliefs and that is pretty closed minded in my opinion.
Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 6:31 pm
by tommcat327
UAHparrothead wrote:I have been called ignorant and foolish and a cultist for my beliefs and that is pretty closed minded in my opinion.
for me the idea of a god is foolish,but i would not call you that or condemn you for your beliefs.if that is what you choose to believe and it doesnt hurt me in any way i have no problem with anyones religious choices.
Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 6:32 pm
by UAHparrothead
tommcat327 wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:I have been called ignorant and foolish and a cultist for my beliefs and that is pretty closed minded in my opinion.
for me the idea of a god is foolish,but i would not call you that or condemn you for your beliefs.if that is what you choose to believe and it doesnt hurt me in any way i have no problem with anyones religious choices.
I guess we can always agree to disagree on this particular subject.

Re: Loved the book
Posted: February 12, 2005 6:34 pm
by tommcat327
UAHparrothead wrote:tommcat327 wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:I have been called ignorant and foolish and a cultist for my beliefs and that is pretty closed minded in my opinion.
for me the idea of a god is foolish,but i would not call you that or condemn you for your beliefs.if that is what you choose to believe and it doesnt hurt me in any way i have no problem with anyones religious choices.
I guess we can always agree to disagree on this particular subject.

i wish more people were that open minded about non believers.
Posted: February 13, 2005 11:31 am
by MelliJellyBean
this might've been posted already, but you did hear that they are doing The Da Vinci Code movie right? Tom Hanks is in it. I'm pretty excited about it.
Posted: February 13, 2005 11:34 am
by East Texas Parrothead
MelliJellyBean wrote:this might've been posted already, but you did hear that they are doing The Da Vinci Code movie right? Tom Hanks is in it. I'm pretty excited about it.
Yeah. I can't wait to see it.
I interviewed Brown when his first book came out. . . DIGITAL FORTRESS . . . he's a very nice guy. And very well educated and thorough with his work.
I got up at 3 in the morning to look up THE MADONNA OF THE ROCKS. And the book made me review THE LAST SUPPER very, very closely.
Interesting stuff.
Posted: February 13, 2005 6:17 pm
by Ilph
East Texas Parrothead wrote:MelliJellyBean wrote:this might've been posted already, but you did hear that they are doing The Da Vinci Code movie right? Tom Hanks is in it. I'm pretty excited about it.
Yeah. I can't wait to see it.
I interviewed Brown when his first book came out. . . DIGITAL FORTRESS . . . he's a very nice guy. And very well educated and thorough with his work.
I got up at 3 in the morning to look up THE MADONNA OF THE ROCKS. And the book made me review THE LAST SUPPER very, very closely.
Interesting stuff.
It definately makes you rethink a few things...