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AlbatrossFlyer wrote:the team admitting there was a bounty on the guy's head was probably the not brightest thing to do. that shows intent....

sounds like a scene from slapshot.

let's look at this in the old days the Miami football team would tackle a
guy and HOLD HIM UP in order to have another player hit him hard
enough to hurt him. no hue and cry to stop this even though you could
see what was going on

in the way old days Juan Marichel hit the Dodgers Catcher IN the head with
a baseball bat, look at the hit batsman and we all know some of them are
on purpose no hue and cry.

a few years ago one of the Islanders was hit from behind after a goal
was scored and his collarbone was broken that left the isles out
in the next round the hit was made overhand (woodchopping)
and on purpose. no one screamed foul
whats the diff???
ESPN CNN FOX SPORTS need the stories to keep viewers and Hockey
is an easy target I was watching football this year and one of the players
put his knee in the quarterbacks throat what was that???
it was even mentioned in both of the bowl games each player had been involved and the play was shown at the bowl game. is anyone under arrest??? no way . why no story no one wants to see a clean cut
20 something young man arrested but those big bad hockey players
can rot . the news media has been involved in sports sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad and this time I think for the bad

Tom I have to agree. What happens on the ice stays on the ice. I would say the line drawn is simple. If the deliberate act causes a violation of the law. Example would be death or serious injury.

12vmanRick wrote:Tom I have to agree. What happens on the ice stays on the ice. I would say the line drawn is simple. If the deliberate act causes a violation of the law. Example would be death or serious injury.

THE LINE IS VERY SIMPLE,IF IT WAS TO HAPPEN OFF THE ICE THEN THE LAW COULD GET INVOLVED.LIKE A FIGHT OUTSIDE THE VENUE.
AND VIOLATION OF THE LAW HAPPENS ON THE ICE EVERY FEW MINUTES.

PERSONALLY I WOULD BE FINE IF HOCKEY LOST VIEWERS AND PRIMETIME TV COVERAGE.IT WAS A BETTER SPORT BACK WHEN THE FANS WERE KNOWLEDGEABLE,PURE HOCKEY FANS.THE PLAYERS WERENT OVERPAID LIKE ALL THE OTHER SPORTS AND IT WAS A BETTER GAME OVERALL.
THE WAY THE GAME HAS CHANGED FOR THE TV AUDIENCE AND NON FANS HAS BEEN A HORRIBLE THING.GIVE ME BACK MY SPORT!

Have you seen the footage. It was played over and over this morning. Nasty, but not much different then i've seen before during hockey games. I'm sure he didn't meant to do anywhere near that kind of damage. I think whatever the NHL decides, backed up by a civil suit brought by the injured players family should do it. Can you picture a trial. The defense shows clip after clip of moves in hockey that could have caused serious injury. Were these players prosecuted?
Oh, I believe if I heard it right this morning they are placing him under arrest.

Its a shame that it happened...I really hope that the guy gets well and can play again. I'm not a hockey fan (any sport dealing with the cold is not for me ) but I respect them as atheletes. Its probably one of the toughest sports to play. I would would say some kind of bad would be in order, without pay definately. I'm not sure I would bring the law into it unless it was proven to be premeditated (which would be really tough). Some people at work were talking about it in the cafeteria at a table beside me and a couple of them said it doesnt matter because the NHL is going to dissolve next year anyway. Whats the deal with that? I'm sure it involves millionaires demanding more money, lol As in all professional sports.

CaribbnSoul wrote:Its a shame that it happened...I really hope that the guy gets well and can play again. I'm not a hockey fan (any sport dealing with the cold is not for me ) but I respect them as atheletes. Its probably one of the toughest sports to play. I would would say some kind of bad would be in order, without pay definately. I'm not sure I would bring the law into it unless it was proven to be premeditated (which would be really tough). Some people at work were talking about it in the cafeteria at a table beside me and a couple of them said it doesnt matter because the NHL is going to dissolve next year anyway. Whats the deal with that? I'm sure it involves millionaires demanding more money, lol As in all professional sports.

THE NHL ISNT GOING ANYWHERE

I'm sticking to my guns. I have kinda held off and watched you guys chat about this from a difference, but I still think the law should be involved. Hockey players need to know this is serious, they have to understand that a completely unprovoked attack will not be tolerated. This guys career may be over, and he will probably have physical problems for the rest of his life, not to mention he has to live with the shame of ending his career in a bloody heap for something he probably still doesn't know happened. It doesn't make sense to me. The law has to become involved, at some point fines and loss of playing time are not enough. We are humans, and he acted like an animal. It was completely unwaranted and obviously premetitated attack on another individual. He knew exactly what he was doing, he grabbed the back of his jersey pulled him up close punched him in the face (from the back mind you) and then wrapped him up as he hit the ice, when he hits the ice you can see he is still trying to get shots off on him. This is no square off gloves down clean fight, this is a beating, and something the NHL does not have the power to punish properly....

I FINALLY GOT TO SEE THE HIT.HE DID SUCKER PUNCH HIM,NO QUESTION.BUT THE WHOLE DRIVING HIS HEAD INTO THE ICE THING IS BULL.WHEN HE HIT HIM THEY BOTH FELL FORWARD AND HE HIT HIS HEAD ON THE ICE.
VERY MUCH IN THE WAY THAT WHEN MCSORELY HIT BRASHEAR HIS HIT IS NOT WHAT DID THE MOST DAMAGE.WHEN HE FELL BACKWARDS AND HIT HIS HEAD ON THE ICE HE GOT THE CONCUSSION.

tommcat327 wrote:

CaribbnSoul wrote:Its a shame that it happened...I really hope that the guy gets well and can play again. I'm not a hockey fan (any sport dealing with the cold is not for me ) but I respect them as atheletes. Its probably one of the toughest sports to play. I would would say some kind of bad would be in order, without pay definately. I'm not sure I would bring the law into it unless it was proven to be premeditated (which would be really tough). Some people at work were talking about it in the cafeteria at a table beside me and a couple of them said it doesnt matter because the NHL is going to dissolve next year anyway. Whats the deal with that? I'm sure it involves millionaires demanding more money, lol As in all professional sports.

THE NHL ISNT GOING ANYWHERE

but the chance is closer than you may think tom

fishinforfood wrote:I'm sticking to my guns. I have kinda held off and watched you guys chat about this from a difference, but I still think the law should be involved. Hockey players need to know this is serious, they have to understand that a completely unprovoked attack will not be tolerated. This guys career may be over, and he will probably have physical problems for the rest of his life, not to mention he has to live with the shame of ending his career in a bloody heap for something he probably still doesn't know happened. It doesn't make sense to me. The law has to become involved, at some point fines and loss of playing time are not enough. We are humans, and he acted like an animal. It was completely unwaranted and obviously premetitated attack on another individual. He knew exactly what he was doing, he grabbed the back of his jersey pulled him up close punched him in the face (from the back mind you) and then wrapped him up as he hit the ice, when he hits the ice you can see he is still trying to get shots off on him. This is no square off gloves down clean fight, this is a beating, and something the NHL does not have the power to punish properly....

NOT A HOCKEY PERSON I TAKE IT?

7lords wrote:

tommcat327 wrote:

CaribbnSoul wrote:Its a shame that it happened...I really hope that the guy gets well and can play again. I'm not a hockey fan (any sport dealing with the cold is not for me ) but I respect them as atheletes. Its probably one of the toughest sports to play. I would would say some kind of bad would be in order, without pay definately. I'm not sure I would bring the law into it unless it was proven to be premeditated (which would be really tough). Some people at work were talking about it in the cafeteria at a table beside me and a couple of them said it doesnt matter because the NHL is going to dissolve next year anyway. Whats the deal with that? I'm sure it involves millionaires demanding more money, lol As in all professional sports.

THE NHL ISNT GOING ANYWHERE

but the chance is closer than you may think tom

THATS FINE,LIKE I SAID EARLIER I DONT CARE.I'D LOVE TO SEE ALL THE TV DEALS AND OVERPAID PLAYERS GO AWAY.I JUST DONT THINK WE'LL SEE IT HAPPEN.I PAY MONEY EVRY WEEK TO PLAY THE GAME SO I CANT STAND SEEING PEOPLE GET PAID MILLIONS TO PLAY A GAME THAT THEY STARTED OUT PLAYING FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME.NO LITTLE KID GET OUT ON THE POND WITH THE INTENT ON MAKING MONEY

Does it mater to anybody that he broke his neck with that sucker punch?

pair8head wrote:Does it mater to anybody that he broke his neck with that sucker punch?

DO WE KNOW IT WAS THE PUNCH THAT DID IT OR THE FALL.I KNOW MOST PEOPLE DONT THINK IT MATTERS BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

tommcat327 wrote:

pair8head wrote:Does it mater to anybody that he broke his neck with that sucker punch?

DO WE KNOW IT WAS THE PUNCH THAT DID IT OR THE FALL.I KNOW MOST PEOPLE DONT THINK IT MATTERS BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

no there isn't... it wasn't a clean but hard hit that ended up badly, it was a deliberate cheap shot. seeing that he broke his fall with his face, tells me he was out cold before he hit the ice.

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

tommcat327 wrote:

pair8head wrote:Does it mater to anybody that he broke his neck with that sucker punch?

DO WE KNOW IT WAS THE PUNCH THAT DID IT OR THE FALL.I KNOW MOST PEOPLE DONT THINK IT MATTERS BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

no there isn't... it wasn't a clean but hard hit that ended up badly, it was a deliberate cheap shot. seeing that he broke his fall with his face, tells me he was out cold before he hit the ice.

I HAVE SEEN SO MANY CHEAP SHOTS I CANT EVEN BEGIN TO COUNT,I DONT THINK A SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAD THE INTENT TO BREAK SOMEONES NECK AND END THEIR CAREER(OR LIFE).I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING TOO AF.I HAVE CERTAINLY MADE A FEW CHEAP SHOTS OF MY OWN,IT DOESNT MEAN I MEANT TO CAUSE THAT MUCH INJURY

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Because Vancouver is so close to Seattle the local news has been all over the story like stink on S***. The close up slo motion shots make it look like the neck was broken by hit not the ice.

pair8head wrote:Because Vancouver is so close to Seattle the local news has been all over the story like stink on S***. The close up slo motion shots make it look like the neck was broken by hit not the ice.

I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO SEE A GOOD SHOT OF IT YET.I SAW IT QUICK ONLINE THIS MORNING BUT THE QUALITY WAS POOR.I'LL TRY TO WATCH SOME TV TONIGHT