The 2004 Baseball Thread

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » October 27, 2004 11:50 am

IsleReef wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CaptainP wrote:WHy is Bill Buckner not in the Hall Of Fame?
Answer: ONE GROUND BALL.

His numbers were good enough, but he got very few votes.
and if it truly is that one ground ball, what a shame and a black eye for baseball..... he wasn't the only one who made a mistake that day; his was just a little more glaring.....
WHat I said is a bit of an exaggeration. His numbers were very good. Were they HOF worthy? Maybe. But the number of votes he got was not worthy of the career he had.
and that's truly a shame.......
Yeah, I know what your saying....... I miss my grandparents, they were the best...... Married 65 years, lived to their early 90's and were just good people...... I wish sometimes I could pick up the phone to talk with them...... They passed away around 5-6 years ago and I still have not removed their phone number from my speed dial......... So for your's, may the Red Sox pull it off...............

Um...Vinny? Did you quote the wrong post?

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 27, 2004 11:52 am

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
LIPH wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:ITAKEITBACK ITAKEITBACK ITAKEITBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, one error.... I made an error..... the Idiots can overcome one error by an idiot fan, right???
Unless the fan is Bill Buckner.

(actually, Bill Buckner has dealt with the whole thing way better than the rest of us.... he and Mookie Wilson have made appearances together, both signing the picture.... )

My boss has that picture framed and hanging in his office.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » October 27, 2004 11:53 am

IsleReef wrote:Yeah, I know what your saying....... I miss my grandparents, they were the best...... Married 65 years, lived to their early 90's and were just good people...... I wish sometimes I could pick up the phone to talk with them...... They passed away around 5-6 years ago and I still have not removed their phone number from my speed dial......... So for your's, may the Red Sox pull it off...............

Thanks! My grandmothers both lived into their 90s, but both grandfathers died relatively young, in their very early 70s. In fact, the grandfather who attended the 1918 World Series died six months after the 1967 World Series.... I bet he's watching this with particular interest.

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 11:54 am

CaptainP wrote:
IsleReef wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CaptainP wrote:WHy is Bill Buckner not in the Hall Of Fame?
Answer: ONE GROUND BALL.

His numbers were good enough, but he got very few votes.
and if it truly is that one ground ball, what a shame and a black eye for baseball..... he wasn't the only one who made a mistake that day; his was just a little more glaring.....
WHat I said is a bit of an exaggeration. His numbers were very good. Were they HOF worthy? Maybe. But the number of votes he got was not worthy of the career he had.
and that's truly a shame.......
Yeah, I know what your saying....... I miss my grandparents, they were the best...... Married 65 years, lived to their early 90's and were just good people...... I wish sometimes I could pick up the phone to talk with them...... They passed away around 5-6 years ago and I still have not removed their phone number from my speed dial......... So for your's, may the Red Sox pull it off...............
Um...Vinny? Did you quote the wrong post?

I don't think so????...... I thought I was quoting SchoolGirls thought on her Grandfather........ Either that or I'm hallucinating and having some weird flashback........

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » October 27, 2004 11:54 am

LIPH wrote:My boss has that picture framed and hanging in his office.

my stomach still lurches when I see that picture......

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » October 27, 2004 11:56 am

IsleReef wrote:I don't think so????...... I thought I was quoting SchoolGirls thought on her Grandfather........ Either that or I'm hallucinating and having some weird flashback........

I think you may be hallucinating and having some weird flashback........ but I knew what you meant.

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 11:59 am

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
IsleReef wrote:I don't think so????...... I thought I was quoting SchoolGirls thought on her Grandfather........ Either that or I'm hallucinating and having some weird flashback........
I think you may be hallucinating and having some weird flashback........ but I knew what you meant.

Thanks....... My grandparents have that weird affect on me.....

Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » October 27, 2004 12:07 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
LIPH wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I'm wearing a red Hawaiian shirt today in the spirit of supporting the Red Sox!!!!!!!!
Perfect!!!!!
Isn't red also the Cardinals' color?
um... well... um... ah... minor detail......

That dawned on me too - but mine is Red Sox red, not Cardinal red! And, my socks happen to have red in them too... so there!!!!

I don't know - it just seems a Red Sox win will be good for baseball!!!! Then hopefully we can get Jimmy into Wrigley next summer to gag the goat, setting the stage for the Red Sox to defend their title against the Cubbies, but to no avail!!!!! And when that happens, we can pretty much count on Hell ophicially getting it's License to Chill!!!!

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 27, 2004 12:10 pm

Tiki Bar wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
LIPH wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:WOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I'm wearing a red Hawaiian shirt today in the spirit of supporting the Red Sox!!!!!!!!
Perfect!!!!!
Isn't red also the Cardinals' color?
um... well... um... ah... minor detail......
That dawned on me too - but mine is Red Sox red, not Cardinal red! And, my socks happen to have red in them too... so there!!!!

I don't know - it just seems a Red Sox win will be good for baseball!!!! Then hopefully we can get Jimmy into Wrigley next summer to gag the goat, setting the stage for the Red Sox to defend their title against the Cubbies, but to no avail!!!!! And when that happens, we can pretty much count on Hell ophicially getting it's License to Chill!!!!

I'd love to see him play Wrigley too. I've never been there and I'm not that much of a baseball fan that I'd travel to Chicago to see a game. But I'd sure as hell travel there to see JB (and Heather).

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » October 27, 2004 12:11 pm

Tiki Bar wrote: Then hopefully we can get Jimmy into Wrigley next summer to gag the goat,

Zanth?

iuparrothead · Post by **iuparrothead** » October 27, 2004 12:12 pm

Tiki Bar wrote: Then hopefully we can get Jimmy into Wrigley next summer to gag the goat,

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » October 27, 2004 12:15 pm

iuparrothead wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote: Then hopefully we can get Jimmy into Wrigley next summer to gag the goat,
Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

????? Por que?

TheSecretsInTheCrust · October 27, 2004 12:50 pm

27 Outs

"They'll be the 27 hardest outs we're gonna make all year." - Curt Schilling

The Boston Red Sox are 27 outs away from winning the World Series.
Twenty-seven outs away from retiring the "19-18" chant.
Twenty-seven outs away from having eight and eighty-year olds dance for joy.
And cry for the same reason.
Twenty-seven outs away from Babe Ruth being just another dead Yankee.
Twenty-seven outs away from Ted Williams smiling in heaven. And swearing at Joe Dimaggio.
Twenty-seven outs away from Johnny Pesky holding a trophy, and not the ball.
Twenty-seven outs away from Dom DiMaggio dialing Bobby Doerr's phone number and talking for an hour.
Twenty-seven outs away from Derek Lowe mirroring Joe Dobson's career-best game five performance in 1946 versus St. Louis.

Twenty-seven outs away from the new Impossible Dream.
Twenty-seven outs away from vindication for Tony C, Rico, Yaz, and Gentleman Jim Lonborg.
Twenty-seven outs away from glory.
Twenty-seven outs away from becoming the New Big Red Idiot Machine.
Twenty-seven outs away from Carbo and Fisk's home runs not going for naught.
Twenty-seven outs away from one for Luis, Dewey, Freddie, the Rooster, and the Spaceman.
Twenty-seven outs away from Bucky Dent going back to being just another crummy .247 career hitting shortstop.
Twenty-seven outs away from forgetting the name Mike Torrez.
Twenty-seven outs away from being one strike away.
Twenty-seven outs away from forgetting the Steamer's wild pitch.
Twenty-seven outs away from restoring Bill Buckner's legacy as a career .289 hitter, with 2715 career hits and the 1980 Silver Slugger award.
Twenty-seven outs away from Dan Shaughnessy having to invent a new phrase.
Twenty-seven outs away from forgiving Wade Boggs and the horse he rode in on.
Twenty-seven outs away from hoping Grady gets another chance.
Twenty-seven outs away from Aaron Boone being a question mark at the hot corner for the Cleveland Indians in 2005.
Twenty-seven outs away from someday retiring No. 21 and forgiving Roger for the Blue Jays and the Yanks.
Well, two out of three ain't bad.
- Mike Laprey - BostonDirtDogs.com

st.somewhere · Post by **st.somewhere** » October 27, 2004 1:00 pm

iuparrothead wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:Really though... topic for discussion...

I don't doubt that the Red Sox are really that good... BUT... where the hell are the Cardinals??? Are the Red Sox that much better or are have the Cards just not showed up??? How can a line up with Renteria, Walker, Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen not show up? I'm stunned...
no disrespect intended here... the Cardinals have a good baseball team... but they've been playing very poorly.....
They have flat out suckked!!! I almost feel bad for the Cards fans... it's kind of embarassing. They were pretty productive in Game 1, but what the hell? Last night? Shameful!

I'm not really sure what your so confused about. There's two reasons and two reasons only that the Cardinals only scored 3 runs in the last two games.

Reason 1: CURT SCHILLING (The best big game pitcher on the planet)

Reason 2: PEDRO MARTINEZ (He remembered how good he could be last night)

Great pitching always, always, always beats great hitting.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » October 27, 2004 1:02 pm

st.somewhere wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:Really though... topic for discussion...

I don't doubt that the Red Sox are really that good... BUT... where the hell are the Cardinals??? Are the Red Sox that much better or are have the Cards just not showed up??? How can a line up with Renteria, Walker, Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen not show up? I'm stunned...
no disrespect intended here... the Cardinals have a good baseball team... but they've been playing very poorly.....
They have flat out suckked!!! I almost feel bad for the Cards fans... it's kind of embarassing. They were pretty productive in Game 1, but what the hell? Last night? Shameful!
I'm not really sure what your so confused about. There's two reasons and two reasons only that the Cardinals only scored 3 runs in the last two games.

Reason 1: CURT SCHILLING (The best big game pitcher on the planet)

Reason 2: PEDRO MARTINEZ (He remembered how good he could be last night)

Great pitching always, always, always beats great hitting.

Great pitching ALMOST always beats great hitting.

How many WS did the Braves win with Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine? ONE.

st.somewhere · Post by **st.somewhere** » October 27, 2004 1:06 pm

CaptainP wrote:
st.somewhere wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:Really though... topic for discussion...

I don't doubt that the Red Sox are really that good... BUT... where the hell are the Cardinals??? Are the Red Sox that much better or are have the Cards just not showed up??? How can a line up with Renteria, Walker, Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen not show up? I'm stunned...
no disrespect intended here... the Cardinals have a good baseball team... but they've been playing very poorly.....
They have flat out suckked!!! I almost feel bad for the Cards fans... it's kind of embarassing. They were pretty productive in Game 1, but what the hell? Last night? Shameful!
I'm not really sure what your so confused about. There's two reasons and two reasons only that the Cardinals only scored 3 runs in the last two games.

Reason 1: CURT SCHILLING (The best big game pitcher on the planet)

Reason 2: PEDRO MARTINEZ (He remembered how good he could be last night)

Great pitching always, always, always beats great hitting.
Great pitching ALMOST always beats great hitting.

How many WS did the Braves win with Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine? ONE.

Yeah, but in addition to having a great 1, 2 punch your team also has to score runs. As I recall the Braves generally choke in both catergories come playoff time.

aquaholic · Post by **aquaholic** » October 27, 2004 1:08 pm

st.somewhere wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
st.somewhere wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:Really though... topic for discussion...

I don't doubt that the Red Sox are really that good... BUT... where the hell are the Cardinals??? Are the Red Sox that much better or are have the Cards just not showed up??? How can a line up with Renteria, Walker, Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen not show up? I'm stunned...
no disrespect intended here... the Cardinals have a good baseball team... but they've been playing very poorly.....
They have flat out suckked!!! I almost feel bad for the Cards fans... it's kind of embarassing. They were pretty productive in Game 1, but what the hell? Last night? Shameful!
I'm not really sure what your so confused about. There's two reasons and two reasons only that the Cardinals only scored 3 runs in the last two games.

Reason 1: CURT SCHILLING (The best big game pitcher on the planet)

Reason 2: PEDRO MARTINEZ (He remembered how good he could be last night)

Great pitching always, always, always beats great hitting.
Great pitching ALMOST always beats great hitting.

How many WS did the Braves win with Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine? ONE.
Yeah, but in addition to having a great 1, 2 punch your team also has to score runs. As I recall the Braves generally choke in both catergories come playoff time.

CHOKE is the understatement of the day..........

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » October 27, 2004 1:09 pm

st.somewhere wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
st.somewhere wrote:
Great pitching always, always, always beats great hitting.
Great pitching ALMOST always beats great hitting.

How many WS did the Braves win with Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine? ONE.
Yeah, but in addition to having a great 1, 2 punch your team also has to score runs. As I recall the Braves generally choke in both catergories come playoff time.

I'm just saying, it doesn't always hold true.
Best pitching staffs entering this year: Houston, Oakland, Boston, Chicago. 2 missed the playoffs, one lost to a team with better bats. Only Boston survives.

st.somewhere · Post by **st.somewhere** » October 27, 2004 1:27 pm

CaptainP wrote:
st.somewhere wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
st.somewhere wrote:
Great pitching always, always, always beats great hitting.
Great pitching ALMOST always beats great hitting.

How many WS did the Braves win with Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine? ONE.
Yeah, but in addition to having a great 1, 2 punch your team also has to score runs. As I recall the Braves generally choke in both catergories come playoff time.
I'm just saying, it doesn't always hold true.
Best pitching staffs entering this year: Houston, Oakland, Boston, Chicago. 2 missed the playoffs, one lost to a team with better bats. Only Boston survives.

No, that's cool... All I'm sayin' is that when Curt Schilling & Pedro Martinez are on their game, they're as good as it gets.

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » October 27, 2004 1:28 pm

still no word from our buddy Matt

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