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Posted: March 21, 2004 5:42 pm
by zanth
Ok, here's my slant on the ticket situation:

1. The root for all this animosity towards eBay sellers and brokers/scalpers is the fact that there are many people who want to go to the show and only a limited amount of tickets. Laws of supply and demand apply here, if there is a limited supply and a high demand, prices go up - Econ 101.

2. The current system in place is not to the advantage of the phans but to those who want only to make money off tickets, namely the scalpers and brokers.

In order to score tix for Camden, our crew was stationed as follows:

RednekkPH and I each on 3 computers (which I "borrowed" from work) at my place

One guy in another location on 3 computers

Another girl on 1 computer at yet another location

4 people at Ticketmaster outlet staggered in the line

RednekkPH hit for 8, my buddy on the other 3 computers hit for 8, and one of our crew in line at the outlet hit for 8.

We didn't need more than 16 tix so we told the team at the TM outlet to just sell the tix they had to the people in line that didn't score (we only asked for face value + TM charges, we were not out to make any money). Needless to say that make 8 people who waited in line and were going to go home ticketless very happy.

Going back to the current process, this is the lengths we went to for tix, and I still think we were lucky. But, even before we got our tix, many of the choice tickets were gone, given away to radio stations, or in the hands of scalpers and brokers.

I think (and Jimmy, if you're reading this, please make a note) there should be some kind of pre-sale for true phans. Pearl Jam does this, they charge an annual fee for club membership but allow members first dibs on tix.

As for the whole eBay thing, as long as the tickets are sold within legal limits AFTER the sale date, and the tix start out at face value + surcharges, I don't have a problem with it. This is a way for people who for some reason or another couldn't get tix during the sale to be able to go to the show. Granted, you will have to pay extra for them, but this is America, free trade is king.

(stepping off my soapbox)

Posted: March 21, 2004 6:08 pm
by Buffett PHan
Sounds like you all managed to get the tix you needed.......congrats! I'm not sure I understand your comments on "the whole eBay thing" though. What difference does it make when the tickets are listed/sold. "AFTER" the on sale date doesn't make anything legal or illegal. And who cares what the minimum bid starts out at......the ending price is what matters most. I prefer the 'buy it now" prices that are within reason. Without eBay I'd have to be lining the pockets of those organized crime brokers every year.

Posted: March 21, 2004 6:17 pm
by zanth
Buffett PHan wrote:Sounds like you all managed to get the tix you needed.......congrats! I'm not sure I understand your comments on "the whole eBay thing" though. What difference does it make when the tickets are listed/sold. "AFTER" the on sale date doesn't make anything legal or illegal. And who cares what the minimum bid starts out at......the ending price is what matters most. I prefer the 'buy it now" prices that are within reason. Without eBay I'd have to be lining the pockets of those organized crime brokers every year.
Ok, I was under the impression ticket sales before the actual sale date went against some law or eBay rule, if it doesn't, then no biggie.

As for starting out at face value + surcharges, IMO anyone who lists above that (like those who start bidding double face value) is just out to make money. Is it legal (assuming local laws allow) sure, but I don't like it and would never do that myself. Ending price is partially dicated by starting price. If everyone who had tix for sale started at double face value, that would not allow for some people who don't have deep pockets to even bid. I'll agree with you on the reasonable Buy it Now price.

Posted: March 21, 2004 7:53 pm
by iuparrothead
zanth wrote:We didn't need more than 16 tix so we told the team at the TM outlet to just sell the tix they had to the people in line that didn't score (we only asked for face value + TM charges, we were not out to make any money). Needless to say that make 8 people who waited in line and were going to go home ticketless very happy.
This is so awesome! I applaud you guys! :D

Posted: March 21, 2004 8:02 pm
by zanth
iuparrothead wrote: This is so awesome! I applaud you guys! :D
gonna make me blush again :D

ebay

Posted: March 21, 2004 8:40 pm
by moeron
I may look on ebay for tickets. What Buffettpahn said, as long as I don't line the pockets of scalpers. You got my vote!!

Fins Up!!!

Posted: March 22, 2004 9:26 am
by rednekkPH
iuparrothead wrote:
zanth wrote:We didn't need more than 16 tix so we told the team at the TM outlet to just sell the tix they had to the people in line that didn't score (we only asked for face value + TM charges, we were not out to make any money). Needless to say that make 8 people who waited in line and were going to go home ticketless very happy.
This is so awesome! I applaud you guys! :D
My sister and fiance were 2 of the ones we had stationed in line at the TM outlet. Once they found out that we didnt' need the tickets they had got, they went to the very last folks in line and offered the tickets to them. They said it was like Christmas for these parrotheads.

Posted: March 22, 2004 10:11 am
by ColdWaterConch
For the record, not everyone on ebay is out to make a killing. Last year I got two for Pittsburgh on ebay for about $15 over face. I emailed the seller who was a local PH and he was very cool about the whole thing. He wasn't out to make a fortune, just looking to get rid of extra tix.

Posted: March 22, 2004 10:19 am
by A1A BOUND
sirgumby77 wrote:
finzz2dlft wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:I love Ticketmaster and Ebay. Get extra tickets, then overcharge people who slept late and couldnt get them. Serves them right for not getting tickets at their own will.

I sure hope you are joking............ what about those of us who were online and on the phone at ten minutes before 10:00, and STILL got shut out?


I joke you not-----I LOVE TICKETMASTER AND EBAY-----






YOU s***!!!

YOUR NO PHRIEND OF MINE!!!

Posted: March 22, 2004 10:35 am
by 12vmanRick
nycparrothead wrote:
Gypsy In The Palace wrote:Gumby, are you always this friendly, or are you just having a good day today? :lol: :wink:
Everyone is entitled to bad days I suppose, even Sir Grumpy! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh no, based on other of his posts this he was having a good day and in a good mood. :o