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PalmettoSon wrote:By the way, if any of you will be in Tahoe on May 2, it might be a good idea to stop by the new Cabo Wabo.

really we are suppose to be there May 5-10 for my birthday. How cool!!!



To celebrate the grand opening of The Cabo Wabo Cantina at Harveys Sammy Hagar and the Waboritas are performing April 30, May 1 and a special May 2 performance with Sammy Hagar and friends, in the South Shore Room at Harrah´s...click here for ticket and show information.

From Billboard.com:
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/artic ... 1000469581

The long-rumored Van Halen summer tour is finally getting off the ground. The group's official Web site reports that Van Halen will play shows on dates yet to be announced in Detroit; East Rutherford, N.J.; Greensboro, N.C.; Hershey, Pa.; Kansas City, Mo.; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; St. Louis; St. Paul, Minn.; Wilkes-Barre, Pa.; and Worcester, Mass.

There has also yet to be a formal announcement as to who will fill the group's lead singer slot, although it appears Sammy Hagar has won back the job. Hagar replaced original vocalist David Lee Roth in 1985 and remained in Van Halen until 1996. Roth returned to the fold for a brief, disastrous stint that year to record two new songs for a greatest hits album, but did not collaborate with the band further.

Former Extreme frontman Gary Cherone took over lead vocal duties for 1998's "Van Halen III" and a tour later that year, the band's most recent to date. In a bizarre twist, Roth and Hagar embarked on co-headlining U.S. tour in 2002.

As a band, Van Halen is surrounded by numerous other uncertainties, from guitarist Eddie Van Halen's battle with cancer to its lack of a record deal. The group split with Warner Bros. in early 2002 after spending its entire career recording for the label.

Hagar has a handful of shows booked with his band the Waboritas into early May. Promoters previously confirmed to Billboard.biz that Van Halen had holds for late summer dates in several U.S. arenas. In recent weeks, the group also signed a deal for representation with the William Morris Agency.

-- Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

I remember the good old days of Hagar and Three Lock Box, and the days of VH with their first 2 albums. I never liked the two together. Dave sucks alone, but I think part of that is because he was losing it as VH was breaking up in the 80’s.
Of course, some of us still don’t think that Genesis existed after Peter Gabriel left either.

Jahfin wrote:They can go on calling themselves "Van Halen" because Edward Van Halen is the leader of that band, just ask Sam or Dave.

I prefer Dave-era Van Halen. Sure, they had a string of hits and enjoyed their biggest commercial success when Sammy came on board but their sound shouldn't be confused with that of Dave-era VH either. Yes, they started using keyboards and had their biggest hit with "Jump" before Dave left but once Sammy arrived they took that notion even further with a sound that had more in common with Journey than the original line up of Van Halen. It doesn't matter much to me anyway, with tickets going for as high as $90 a pop I have no desire to see them regardless.

It was the sound at the time, everybody was doing it. Clapton did on his album August, The Dead did it on Touch of Grey and Jimmy also did on Hot Water and Off To See The Lizzard

Van Halen was made with Dave, as he basically fronted the band as Eddie wanted. When Dave couldn't or wouldn't do that anymore that era was over. Later VH was really just Sammy Hagar with a better band but it wasn't really Van Halen. IMHO thats why Eddie wanted Sammy out. I think the VH boys need to find someone new...

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:

Jahfin wrote:They can go on calling themselves "Van Halen" because Edward Van Halen is the leader of that band, just ask Sam or Dave.

I prefer Dave-era Van Halen. Sure, they had a string of hits and enjoyed their biggest commercial success when Sammy came on board but their sound shouldn't be confused with that of Dave-era VH either. Yes, they started using keyboards and had their biggest hit with "Jump" before Dave left but once Sammy arrived they took that notion even further with a sound that had more in common with Journey than the original line up of Van Halen. It doesn't matter much to me anyway, with tickets going for as high as $90 a pop I have no desire to see them regardless.

It was the sound at the time, everybody was doing it. Clapton did on his album August, The Dead did it on Touch of Grey and Jimmy also did on Hot Water and Off To See The Lizzard

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I was referring to Van Halen watering down their original sound in order to broaden their appeal. I can't speak for Clapton (who hasn't released a worthwhile record in decades) but the Dead may of had a cleaner sound on Touch of Grey but I don't think they did anything to significantly alter their music on that record. There's really no need to when you're already selling out arenas whereever you play.

redwinemaker wrote:Van Halen was made with Dave, as he basically fronted the band as Eddie wanted. When Dave couldn't or wouldn't do that anymore that era was over. Later VH was really just Sammy Hagar with a better band but it wasn't really Van Halen. IMHO thats why Eddie wanted Sammy out. I think the VH boys need to find someone new...

I believe their original choice for lead singer following the split with Dave was ultimately more inspired, Patty Smyth (from Scandal).

Jahfin wrote:

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:

Jahfin wrote:They can go on calling themselves "Van Halen" because Edward Van Halen is the leader of that band, just ask Sam or Dave.

I prefer Dave-era Van Halen. Sure, they had a string of hits and enjoyed their biggest commercial success when Sammy came on board but their sound shouldn't be confused with that of Dave-era VH either. Yes, they started using keyboards and had their biggest hit with "Jump" before Dave left but once Sammy arrived they took that notion even further with a sound that had more in common with Journey than the original line up of Van Halen. It doesn't matter much to me anyway, with tickets going for as high as $90 a pop I have no desire to see them regardless.

It was the sound at the time, everybody was doing it. Clapton did on his album August, The Dead did it on Touch of Grey and Jimmy also did on Hot Water and Off To See The Lizzard

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I was referring to Van Halen watering down their original sound in order to broaden their appeal. I can't speak for Clapton (who hasn't released a worthwhile record in decades) but the Dead may of had a cleaner sound on Touch of Grey but I don't think they did anything to significantly alter their music on that record. There's really no need to when you're already selling out arenas whereever you play.

I was just making reference to when you said VH's use of keyboards. In the mid 80's was just a thing most bands did, it was the sound of the times it was sort of the in thing...

Oh hell yeah! I'm definitely going to this show. The best days of VH were during the Sammy days, some unbelievable tunes. Dreams, Why Can't this be Love, great songs.

Duff wrote:Oh hell yeah! I'm definitely going to this show. The best days of VH were during the Sammy days, some unbelievable tunes. Dreams, Why Can't this be Love, great songs.

You got that right

ngaparrothead wrote:I will never forget the first time I heard Van Halen (it was "Running With The Devil") when I was in 5th grade. Been a fan ever since. I think Sammy was a better personality for the time. Yeah, Dave had plenty of spunk and attitude, but it was killing the band. Sammy just wanted to rock, then Eddie killed it with his power trips. Maybe this is the start of a better time.

Hopefully they'll come through Atlanta.

dead or alive did it for me VH II rocked i still have the concert shirt from the show at the cape cod colliseum we went to in high school can't hear any of those songs on the first three albums without knowing exactly where the 8 tracks skipped to the next track

Jahfin wrote:

redwinemaker wrote:Van Halen was made with Dave, as he basically fronted the band as Eddie wanted. When Dave couldn't or wouldn't do that anymore that era was over. Later VH was really just Sammy Hagar with a better band but it wasn't really Van Halen. IMHO thats why Eddie wanted Sammy out. I think the VH boys need to find someone new...

I believe their original choice for lead singer following the split with Dave was ultimately more inspired, Patty Smyth (from Scandal).

correct you are,and i think they should give her a call now.at least it wouldnt seem like eddie was trying to do the same old thing.VH is after all just a big ego trip for eddie

and i'd have to say that i have loved everything that VH has done with dave or sammy.the whole gary thing was just embarassing

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:

Jahfin wrote:They can go on calling themselves "Van Halen" because Edward Van Halen is the leader of that band, just ask Sam or Dave.

I prefer Dave-era Van Halen. Sure, they had a string of hits and enjoyed their biggest commercial success when Sammy came on board but their sound shouldn't be confused with that of Dave-era VH either. Yes, they started using keyboards and had their biggest hit with "Jump" before Dave left but once Sammy arrived they took that notion even further with a sound that had more in common with Journey than the original line up of Van Halen. It doesn't matter much to me anyway, with tickets going for as high as $90 a pop I have no desire to see them regardless.

It was the sound at the time, everybody was doing it. Clapton did on his album August, The Dead did it on Touch of Grey and Jimmy also did on Hot Water and Off To See The Lizzard

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I was referring to Van Halen watering down their original sound in order to broaden their appeal. I can't speak for Clapton (who hasn't released a worthwhile record in decades) but the Dead may of had a cleaner sound on Touch of Grey but I don't think they did anything to significantly alter their music on that record. There's really no need to when you're already selling out arenas whereever you play.

I was just making reference to when you said VH's use of keyboards. In the mid 80's was just a thing most bands did, it was the sound of the times it was sort of the in thing...

Point taken but Buffett, the Dead and Clapton all had keyboards on their albums prior to this time period (and after). They didn't enter the Van Halen picture until either Diver Down or 1984. The use of keyboards isn't necessarily a bad thing but I believe in Van Halen's case (especially during the Sammy years) they began to dominate and strongly detracted from the sound that originally attracted me to them to start with. The evolution of a band's sound is only natural but this only pushed them in a more pop-oriented direction. Additionally Van Halen became more radio friendly during the Sammy years which was another strike against them in my book. I'd previously never thought of them as a "power ballad" band which is what they became, I feel that very same thing (an over abundance of radio ready power ballads) has been Aerosmith's ultimate downfall as well.

ved 'em with Dave and Sammy. I'm just glad one is coming back.

Loved 'em. I meant Loved 'em.

12vanrick, i agree with you. i have seen vh with sammy, and both sammy and dave on there own. i have several concerts on vhs and my computer with both dave and sammy, and to be perfectly honest. sammy wins hands down every time. i do like daves music with the band but i cant stand Dave as a person. i saw them in cincy and columbus during the sammy/dave tour and there were no comparrison. i almost started to feel sorry for dave because he was wearing the same type of clothes that he wore in 83 and looked like he was twice his age, couldnt carry a tune, and he would try to do his jumps and stage moves and you thought his back was going to go out.
sammy on the other hand comes out, works his ass off on stage. his singing was better than i had ever heard it. yeah during the balance tour which was the last he did with van halen, his vocals werent as good as they usually are. this is probably from drinking too much cabo wabo tequila; which he admits to screwing up his voice in the past. on his road to cabo dvd. (the dvd is one of the best music dvds i have ever seen)

I have been a major vh fan since i was 6 years old and i am 27 now. its just so awesome that sammy is back with the band. all bands have problems at one point or another and its great to see them putting the past behind them and getting back together.

now lets say this. if sammy was the first vocalist for VH , there would be people saying they like sammy more than dave. i can not wait to see them back together with sammy!!!!

i do agree that the gary thing was embarassing! i would rather much hear eddie on guitar more than keyboards. i think he is one of the greatest guitar players of all time. next to jimmy hendrix!!

rickcrystal wrote:i do agree that the gary thing was embarassing! i would rather much hear eddie on guitar more than keyboards. i think he is one of the greatest guitar players of all time. next to jimmy hendrix!!

he is one of the best,if not THE best technical guitarists ever.i dont think he compares to someone like hendrix or stevie ray vaughn.every time you hear them play you can almost feel whatever emotion they are experiencing at the time.they truly put every ounce of themselves into their playing.

Sammy has also scheduled an appearance at the 3700 seat "Event Center" (real creative name) at the Borgata in Atlantic City on May 8. No word yet on special guests. More information to come.