Boston Herald Editorial Opinion

par8hedjim · Post by **par8hedjim** » March 24, 2004 8:28 pm

There's an article written by the Herald editorial staff about the two Boston Shows at Fenway
http://news.bostonherald.com/opinion/vi ... icleid=436

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » March 24, 2004 8:41 pm

All of this ought to leave Parrotheads fightin' mad. Maybe it's time Buffett just picked up his guitar and moved this show down the road - back to the Tweeter Center where life was good, no one got hassled and the idea of "wastin' away again in Margaritaville'" - if only for a couple of hours - didn't send officials into a panic.

From the Herald's lips to Jimmy's ears.

tryin' to reason · Post by **tryin' to reason** » March 25, 2004 11:19 am

Very interesting!!!!

Now this doesn't qualify as "whining", does it...???

Triton Dave · Post by **Triton Dave** » March 25, 2004 11:26 am

Now that's what I'm talking about!

Captain Murf · Post by **Captain Murf** » March 25, 2004 1:10 pm

This article speaks on behalf of most of the Mass. Parrotheads I've talked to. Great Woods has gotten to be such a tradition around here and I know a lot of people who'll be dissapointed if things change. What alot of people don't realize it that its not about just drinking - its about being able to relax in a worry free atmosphere and appreciate the state of mind "Margaritaville" really is.

Hopefully if Fenway happens it will only be for this 1 summer. I'll see you all at Fenway regardless but this year I'm taking a few trips out of town to participate in a little parking lot mayhem somewhere else.

dean_siu · Post by **dean_siu** » March 25, 2004 1:37 pm

Captain Murf wrote:This article speaks on behalf of most of the Mass. Parrotheads I've talked to. Great Woods has gotten to be such a tradition around here and I know a lot of people who'll be dissapointed if things change. What alot of people don't realize it that its not about just drinking - its about being able to relax in a worry free atmosphere and appreciate the state of mind "Margaritaville" really is.

Hopefully if Fenway happens it will only be for this 1 summer. I'll see you all at Fenway regardless but this year I'm taking a few trips out of town to participate in a little parking lot mayhem somewhere else.

Without having been to either venue, I'll agree that Great Woods is the preferable option to many based upon word of mouth alone.

However, you even said it yourself....Margaritaville is a "state of mind"...it can be experienced anywhere....heck, I'm experiencing it in my cube at work right now!

Jimmy "moved our cheese" in southern California as well.....taking the Irvine show indoors to the Pond (which will apparantly happen again this fall). Although I'd personally prefer the outdoor atmosphere, the parking lot environment, and the history of Irvine....we went to the Pond with an open mind and still had a great time (and sure we will again this year).

This is obviously a major desire of Jimmy (or his management company) to play Fenway....otherwise, they would not be going through the extensive effort to get this approved. If approval is not granted, it wouldn't surprise me if Boston fails to get a show this year....the market may be left "in the cold" in hopes the city will change its mind and grant Fenway dates in 2005.

Don't let this possible move ruin your concert experience (or your summer)....if it happens, make the most of it and go with an open mind....I promise you can enjoy yourself if you do this.

A Jimmy Buffett concert can be enjoyable at

bravedave · Post by **bravedave** » March 25, 2004 2:45 pm

The Boston Phoenix airs this dissenting opinion:

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/new ... 702318.asp

excerpt:
"The latest move — a proposed "Parrothead Village" on Yawkey Way open only to ticket holders for two Jimmy Buffet concerts in September — goes too far."

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » March 25, 2004 2:56 pm

I NEVER REALIZED THAT THEY CLOSE OFF PUBLIC PROPERTY TO EVERYONE WITHOUT A TICKET.THAT IS WRONG IN MY OPINION.IF I LIVED THERE I WOULD BE PRETTY UPSET TOO

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » March 25, 2004 3:02 pm

they close off a section of Yawkey Way about 30 yards long for Sox games. Why would that upset you? There are no residences near it, unless you live in the souvenir shop

Caribbean Soul · Post by **Caribbean Soul** » March 25, 2004 3:05 pm

That's what happens there with all the Red Sox games.

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » March 25, 2004 3:05 pm

Yeah... they do it for every game.

A friend of mine said he used to go to Fenway and if he couldn't get tix he'd drink at a bar on Yawkey. Now he can't even do that.

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » March 25, 2004 3:13 pm

Key Lime Lee wrote:Yeah... they do it for every game.

A friend of mine said he used to go to Fenway and if he couldn't get tix he'd drink at a bar on Yawkey. Now he can't even do that.

why can't he do that? He doesn't need a ticket to go to Who's on First on Yawkey Way.

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » March 25, 2004 3:14 pm

RAGTOP wrote:they close off a section of Yawkey Way about 30 yards long for Sox games. Why would that upset you? There are no residences near it, unless you live in the souvenir shop

OH,THE ARTICLE IMPLIED THAT MUCH MORE THAN THAT WAS CLOSED OFF.

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » March 25, 2004 3:15 pm

RAGTOP wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:Yeah... they do it for every game.

A friend of mine said he used to go to Fenway and if he couldn't get tix he'd drink at a bar on Yawkey. Now he can't even do that.
why can't he do that? He doesn't need a ticket to go to Who's on First on Yawkey Way.

He said the last three times he went you couldn't get there without a ticket.

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » March 25, 2004 3:23 pm

nope, no ticket needed to get in. I don't normally go there but I did watch 1 Sox game last year from there and had no ticket.

Caribbean Soul · Post by **Caribbean Soul** » March 25, 2004 3:24 pm

tommcat327 wrote:
RAGTOP wrote:they close off a section of Yawkey Way about 30 yards long for Sox games. Why would that upset you? There are no residences near it, unless you live in the souvenir shop
OH,THE ARTICLE IMPLIED THAT MUCH MORE THAN THAT WAS CLOSED OFF.

I'm pretty sure it longer than 30 yards, and it seemed to me that there were apartments above many of the retail establishments on the closed section. Many of the windows had curtains, ect. and looked residential to me anyway.

Captain Murf · Post by **Captain Murf** » March 25, 2004 3:28 pm

Even if they succeed in having some type of Parrothead Village or whatever, because of the massive conjestion around Fenway, only a thousand or so would be able to enjoy it. I think about 50,000+ went to see Springsteen last year so obviously it will be a private party to whoever gets there first. Where will everyone else go? I really don't see being indoors at the Flaggon or Copperfields being as comfortable as my beach chair at Great Woods.

Buffett fans will have fun no matter what and make the best out of whatever their given. However, people won't be able to walk around and check out the different bar set ups, pickup truck swimming pools or other activities that the fans make available to everyone and anyone who wants to check something out. People everywhere will offer you a cheeseburger or a margarita for nothing more than a "thanks" in return. Seeing all how creative (and dedicated) parrotheads can get around Labor Day Weekend is something that will be missed.

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » March 25, 2004 3:33 pm

I don't know the exact length, lets just say it takes me about 20 seconds to walk from 1 end to the other end... it's not long

I think you may be thinking of the apartment complex/hotel right at the end of the ticketing section, there is also a parking lot there. Above the souviner shop/pizza/sausage place is a warehouse. I'm not sure what is above Who's on First but it looks condemned.

tryin' to reason · Post by **tryin' to reason** » March 25, 2004 3:35 pm

Here are the details on the Yawkey Way arrangement with the city...

http://www.dailyfreepress.com/news/2003 ... 9123.shtml

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » March 25, 2004 3:39 pm

tryin' to reason wrote:Here are the details on the Yawkey Way arrangement with the city...

http://www.dailyfreepress.com/news/2003 ... 9123.shtml

it really has gotten mixed reviews. There is nothing great about it, everything they sell in the ticketed area you can buy outside of the ticketed area (except beer). You can drink outside though and thats neat

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