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I found this web site already listing Buffett tickets at Fenway?
Whats the deal.. www.ticketmagic.com

they're brokers. they're assuming the shows at Fenway will happen, and they know they'll use their system to get tickets to resell to us at outrageous prices.....

And they didn't even spell his name right!

It's A$$ holes like this that should be put out of bussiness. $850 give me a break.. There have been shows Like the Rolling Stones that the only people that could use the ticket is the origonal buyer with a picture ID because the buyers name was printed on the ticket/receipt. Maybe Jimmy shoud try that

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:There have been shows Like the Rolling Stones that the only people that could use the ticket is the origonal buyer with a picture ID because the buyers name was printed on the ticket/receipt. Maybe Jimmy shoud try that

That would stink. What happens (as has happened to me more than once) when you can't attend a show? You're stuck with the tickets unless they make them fully refundable. And what about when two, three, four people want to sit together, and at ordering time, they're in NJ, MA, CT and NC, for instance, and CAN'T stand in line together? Not to MENTION the nightmare of trying to get everyone into the venue by showing picture ID's. Yes, this might solve the scalper problem (although I have no doubt they could be creative enough to get around it), but it's akin to using a hammer to kill a mosquito. The other damage it does is huge......

I do hear ya, but I hate those guys.

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:I do hear ya, but I hate those guys.

me, too!

Personally, I feel that ticket brokering is legalized robbery. Why is it legal? Because all of us registered voters, myself included, don't have the time or inclination to bring our displeasure with the system to our respective state representatives. How many of us even vote? Not to be preachy, but we do have a tool to change things. How can any entinty charge up to 10x the sale price of an item just for their own profit and because they pay taxes on it? I'll pay another five bucks tax gladly on the origional ticket and put those ticket brokers out of business. I'm sure all of us would. But no lawmakers know this and it is not worth their time to assist the couple of hundred people that did register their displeasure.

PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:There have been shows Like the Rolling Stones that the only people that could use the ticket is the origonal buyer with a picture ID because the buyers name was printed on the ticket/receipt. Maybe Jimmy shoud try that

When the Rolling Stones played the Roseland Ballroom in Sept., 2002 I got a letter in the mail verifying my ticket purchase and telling me and whoever was coming to the concert with me to bring the letter and photo ID to the box office either the day before or the day of the show. They gave us our tickets and wristbands, but they put the wristband on you and you had to leave it on until you went inside for the show. The show was a Monday night, we went to pick up our tickets Sunday afternoon and still had to wait on line for about 20 minutes. Roseland is a small venue, I think it holds about 3000 or maybe a little less. A system like that would be a nightmare for any of the places JB plays.

I'm at spring training and saw the sox brass at lunch. I mentioned this to them and asked them to check out the site. I said these brokers should be out of business.

Buffett has not been aproved because of the argument over tailgating. It could be a few weeks.

ccmatt wrote:How many of us even vote? Not to be preachy, but we do have a tool to change things.

OK, you're registered, do you vote? Hell, yes, I vote. Anyone else here vote? I'll bet you'll find a lot of people in this forum vote. Will anyone in the current pro-business administration listen? Doubtful.
Now, is there a grass roots "let's stop the scalping" initiative? Doubt it, but I would vote for it. Maybe Matt has found his mission in life. Then again, I hope the cc doesn't stand for Clear Channel, then we're all screwed!

I'll be honest with you: Although I have been shut out several times in the past and relunctantly turned to brokers for tickets, I must say that if they obtain their tickets legally, I have no problem with them. If they (or someone who they are paying to stand in line or get online for them) get tickets on Saturday morning shortly after 10:00 AM, the ticket belongs to them, and they have every right to do with the ticket what they choose-whether that means using it to go to the show, sellling it for face, or selling it for ten times face value. It's their ticket, they got it legally, so what they choose to do with it is their choice.

However, what I have big problems with is the number of tickets that brokers seem to get their hands on before the show ever goes onsale. That is completely wrong! No one other than season ticket holders, people Jimmy specifies, and anyone else who has a legitimate reason to have tickets (such as radio stations) should ever have tickets before the onsale date. If brokers want tickets, they should have to work for them.

I haven't researched it properly, and I may be wrong, but part of the problem is that the laws that ARE on the books aren't enforced. A number of states (I *think* MA is one, but I may be wrong) have laws making it illegal to sell a ticket at over face value. Somehow, the brokers either get around that or ignore it.

I believe they get around it by calling the increase a service charge.
Sell the ticket for face value and add $100 service fee that will do it

Brokers pay taxes on their profit. Scalpers don't. That is one way they get around it.

ccmatt wrote:Brokers pay taxes on their profit. Scalpers don't. That is one way they get around it.

Right, More taxes for the state of Taxachusetts. The state govt. must love them.

Thats why I rag about scalpers They just screw the phans. I just hope that Jimmy will do something to stop this mess. Front row tix=ckets has 500 lawn seats listed for sale. 500!!! who the hell can they get 500?

ccmatt wrote:Personally, I feel that ticket brokering is legalized robbery. Why is it legal? Because all of us registered voters, myself included, don't have the time or inclination to bring our displeasure with the system to our respective state representatives. How many of us even vote? Not to be preachy, but we do have a tool to change things. How can any entinty charge up to 10x the sale price of an item just for their own profit and because they pay taxes on it? I'll pay another five bucks tax gladly on the origional ticket and put those ticket brokers out of business. I'm sure all of us would. But no lawmakers know this and it is not worth their time to assist the couple of hundred people that did register their displeasure.

The problem doesn't need to be brought to state reps... people are obviously buying these outrageous tickets and until they stop, ticket agencies will always exist. If nobody bought the tickets in the first place, we wouldn't have these problems... I hate the brokers as much as the next guy, but every year I buy at leat 8 lawn seats at $150 a pop. Last year was the last time I said I would do that... this year, if I don't get tix thoroug TM, I will not be going (especially if it's at Fenway).

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I haven't researched it properly, and I may be wrong, but part of the problem is that the laws that ARE on the books aren't enforced. A number of states (I *think* MA is one, but I may be wrong) have laws making it illegal to sell a ticket at over face value. Somehow, the brokers either get around that or ignore it.

In MA, the law is Brokers can sell tickets for $2.00 more then they paid for them. The loop hole in the law is not face value but "What they paid for them" they brokers simply make up a dollar amount that they paid based on what the market will pay.

They way brokers get caught is when an undercover reporter or law enforcement agent sells them tickets for face value under the guise that they are extra tickets then an hour later another undercover agent goes in and buys those same tickets back, if the broker sells them for a higher amount then they get busted. However, this does not happen often. i think WHDH Ch. 7 in Boston did something like this last year and teh broker was fined $100.

In NH there is no ticket resell law a broker can sell tickets for whatever they want which is why there are so many brokers in NH!