pair8head wrote: Sorry I seem to have been misinformed. the man wasn't Identified as a child molester at sentencing. They haven't gone to trial yet. The statement was made at the bail hearing.
No apology necessary. I figured that it was a little soon for trial. Even better a bail hearing maybe they will be held without bail and put into general population, I hope they have fun.
An 18 year old man drowned near Eudora, Ark., in December, when he fell into a pit of water while attempting to drown his pitt bull (which he thought was too old and docile), and the man's father also drowned when he jumped in to save his son. THE DOG SURVIVED!!!
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
An 18 year old man drowned near Eudora, Ark., in December, when he fell into a pit of water while attempting to drown his pitt bull (which he thought was too old and docile), and the man's father also drowned when he jumped in to save his son. THE DOG SURVIVED!!!
NATURAL SELECTION.ITS JUST A PART OF NATURE
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
I'm not comparing it to hunting... just pondering where the line is between acceptable animal killing and unacceptable.
Clearly killing a dog in the manner they did seems wrong. Yet it doesn't bother me when they kill cows so I can have Sloppy Joes. What's the difference? Is it intent (food versus just killing), is it the sport (hunting is okay because the animals can run) or is it the type of animal (we consider some animals okay to kill and others not).
I don't have an answer or an opinion yet.... just thinking out loud.
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Key Lime Lee wrote:I'm not comparing it to hunting... just pondering where the line is between acceptable animal killing and unacceptable.
Clearly killing a dog in the manner they did seems wrong. Yet it doesn't bother me when they kill cows so I can have Sloppy Joes. What's the difference? Is it intent (food versus just killing), is it the sport (hunting is okay because the animals can run) or is it the type of animal (we consider some animals okay to kill and others not).
I don't have an answer or an opinion yet.... just thinking out loud.
COWS AREN'T TORTURED FOR ONE,AS THE DOG CLEARLY WAS.
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
Key Lime Lee wrote:I'm not comparing it to hunting... just pondering where the line is between acceptable animal killing and unacceptable.
Clearly killing a dog in the manner they did seems wrong. Yet it doesn't bother me when they kill cows so I can have Sloppy Joes. What's the difference? Is it intent (food versus just killing), is it the sport (hunting is okay because the animals can run) or is it the type of animal (we consider some animals okay to kill and others not).
I don't have an answer or an opinion yet.... just thinking out loud.
cows aren't called "man's best friend" Most ranchers know their cattle are going to be slaughtered at a slaughterhouse for food. Most dog breeders don't breed their dogs for food. As far as hunting goes - I'm perfectly fine with it if the animal killed will be used for food and not just a trophy.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
Key Lime Lee wrote:I'm not comparing it to hunting... just pondering where the line is between acceptable animal killing and unacceptable.
Clearly killing a dog in the manner they did seems wrong. Yet it doesn't bother me when they kill cows so I can have Sloppy Joes. What's the difference? Is it intent (food versus just killing), is it the sport (hunting is okay because the animals can run) or is it the type of animal (we consider some animals okay to kill and others not).
I don't have an answer or an opinion yet.... just thinking out loud.
I think the big issue here is that 2 people tortured an animal for fun...that they had no intention of getting anything in return othe than a good thrill. It is beyond sick and I am afraid for the furture of our society that there are people out there that actually think up these things.
Lee..while you know I love you...I can not beleive you are trying to justify or minimize the severity of this act of violence.
Key Lime Lee wrote:I'm not comparing it to hunting... just pondering where the line is between acceptable animal killing and unacceptable.
Clearly killing a dog in the manner they did seems wrong. Yet it doesn't bother me when they kill cows so I can have Sloppy Joes. What's the difference? Is it intent (food versus just killing), is it the sport (hunting is okay because the animals can run) or is it the type of animal (we consider some animals okay to kill and others not).
I don't have an answer or an opinion yet.... just thinking out loud.
I think the big issue here is that 2 people tortured an animal for fun...that they had no intention of getting anything in return othe than a good thrill. It is beyond sick and I am afraid for the furture of our society that there are people out there that actually think up these things.
Lee..while you know I love you...I can not beleive you are trying to justify or minimize the severity of this act of violence.
This is a first did Lee say he dosen't have an opinion, give it time. Lee just likes to disagree with the majority/everybody. Don't be so ridiculous, cows are raised for the purpose of feeding people just like chickens and pigs. In some cultures not ours dogs and cats are raised for food I'm sure they think nothing of eating dogs or cats. Other cultures look at the cow as a sacred animal, they don't know what they are missing; there's nothing like a juicy red steak,mmm. Lee maybe next it will be ok to drown a person as long as you plan on eating them.
PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:Lee maybe next it will be ok to drown a person as long as you plan on eating them.
Well since you posed the question... why would that be wrong if killing animals for food is okay?
I'm not actually disagreeing with anyone Mike... If you read what I wrote you'd see where I actually AGREED that this example clearly felt wrong. I'm merely posing the question "what makes one kind of animal killing reprehensible and another acceptable."
This example just made me wonder what is the factor or factors that make us upset about this, but still willing to eat steak. And honestly, I've found the best way to form informed opinions is through discussion.
But silly me - I forgot you can't have discussions here, just arguments. Next time I'll be sure to take a side.
Eleven longhaired friends of Jesus in a chartreuse microbus...
PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:Other cultures look at the cow as a sacred animal, they don't know what they are missing; there's nothing like a juicy red steak,mmm.
well, I don't eat meat at all...and the only thing I was upset about was the torture of the defenseless animal. Purposely turturing any living thing for your own enjoyment is sick...whether you plan on eating it or not!
Maybe I am naaive to believe that slaughter houses are less cruel??
PARROT HEAD MIKE wrote:Other cultures look at the cow as a sacred animal, they don't know what they are missing; there's nothing like a juicy red steak,mmm.
well, I don't eat meat at all...and the only thing I was upset about was the torture of the defenseless animal. Purposely turturing any living thing for your own enjoyment is sick...whether you plan on eating it or not!
Maybe I am naaive to believe that slaughter houses are less cruel??
No chicken/poultry, pork, fish or even eggs, really?
I do think of that at times and wonder if it is right, though I am not opposed to it. I try to believe that the slaughter houses do not torture the animals, from what I have heard they are not aware of what happens and they dont really feel it thay are definately not tortured. I do think that most of us find this acceptable because we dont raise them as family pets. There is definately a difference between slaughter houses and these sick individuals that tortured these dogs, these dogs that probably came to them with out fear and just wanted to be friendly and have someone to play with.
I just saw this on the TV news as I was reading this Topic. It is awful. My girlfriend has a Yorky that looks alot like that one, and if I saw somebody do that, I would kill them! I would pull out a gun and kill them right there! People are sick bastards!
"The sound of the weather is Heaven's ragtime band."
Key Lime Lee wrote:"what makes one kind of animal killing reprehensible and another acceptable."
IT WAS THE WAY THE ANIMAL WAS KILLED AND I THINK THAT IS FAIRLY OBVIOUS.WHILE IT BOTHERS ME AND MOST OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORLD MORE TO HAVE A DOG KILLED THAN A COW THAT IS SIMPLY FROM A CULTURE WHERE DOGS ARE COMPANIONS.COWS ARE NOT.
AND IN THE CASE OF THE COWS I WOULD BE EQUALLY AGAINST ROPING ONE TO A TREE AND SHOOTING IT WITH ARROWS UNTIL IT WAS DEAD.WHETHER IT WAS TO BE EATEN OR NOT.ANIMAL SHOULD NOT BE TORTURED.SOME PEOPLE MAYBE BUT NOT ANIMALS
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
Having grown up around farming and ranching I follow the general rule of thumb that most "country folks" follow. If you give it a name you don't eat it -period.
While some salughterhouses have had reputations of killing the animals in a rather cruel manner in the past times have changed the industry. I agree with Tom. Tieing an cow to a tree and shooting it with arrows is a form of torture. However if you raise the animal to be eaten and you also must be humane enough to make sure the animal is killed by the slaughterhouse in the quickest least tramatic means possible.
And yes in some cultures animals that we consider pets are raised to be food. I would like to think in those countries the people raising them don't give them names. I can't imagine going to one of those countries and hearing someone say "Yup - we're raising rover to be a good meal someday". Some of those same countries also consider it proper to bring a live monkey to the table and chop off the top of it's skull to eat the brains too - BLECH!!!
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
Sorry I seem to have been misinformed. the man wasn't Identified as a child molester at sentencing. They haven't gone to trial yet. The statement was made at the bail hearing.
