The Buffett Binge - Am I The Only Sober One At The Shows?

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 10:17 am

ph4ever i totally agree with you, i feel that they perform even better now that they are clean and sober, i saw the stones live and they were awesome

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » April 29, 2004 10:22 am

ashaway1 wrote:ph4ever i totally agree with you, i feel that they perform even better now that they are clean and sober, i saw the stones live and they were awesome

so don't put so much into any bands' drug addiction as your reason for getting high. You get high because you want to which - depending on your drug of choice could lead to a major addiction problem down the road. Don't glorify drug addiction - it's a path you really don't want to walk down.

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 10:25 am

i agree with you, i dont go to concerts high on coke or anything just smokign a joint here and there which i dont see as a big deal

pair8head · Post by **pair8head** » April 29, 2004 10:35 am

ashaway1 wrote:pair8head if you knew anything about music you would understand wher ei am coming from, if you read direct interviews from some of these artists they say used drugs to help them right music, the beatles used acid to write strawberry fields, listen to the lyircs of some of these songs its all about drugs, and sometimes its not even good things about drugs like claptons cocaine all i am saying that for better or worse because of drugs we have many of the great albums we do today, dont be so naive to think that if all rock stars were clean and sober that we would have half the good music we do today

Ok I am going to try to answer this without blowing my cork.

The interviews you refer to were most likely given by the artist in order to SELL thier music, Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll isn't just a saying young man it is an advertisement, The artist all knew what they were doing when they gave these types of interviews, They were just as likely to say they wrote in the nude or while having sex because that helped them set their minds free. What it really did was help them make more freaking money then you or I will ever see.

If you want to believe otherwise go ahead, but do not tell me I am nieve or assume I know less about music then you. At almost 50 years of age I think I have learned a bit about music and artist.

Desdamona · Post by **Desdamona** » April 29, 2004 10:40 am

Ashaway1, dear, you seem to really want to participate in the exchange of
ideas on this board. Could I suggest not trying so hard to stir up animosity?
There are plenty of ways to express opposing opinions besides being so
confrontational. Besides, your lack of punctuation and spelling makes it
more difficult for us to read your "tone" since we're having to try so hard to
figure out just what you're saying in the first place. We've had many
negative exchanges in various threads that started because it's difficult to
know just where someone is "coming from" just by reading words on a
screen. If you'll try a little harder to express yourself, we'll be more open
to hearing your ideas.
Just my humble (and peaceful) opinion...

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 10:52 am

desdamona, i dont see any animosity, what is wrong with a friendly debate, i feel that the majority of the posts on this topic have been factual and have not insulted anyone, i have no problem with people disagreeing with me as long as they have facts tob ack it up

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 10:54 am

pair8head i agree with you that a lot goes into the selling of a record and that the artists image goes a long way in helping to sell those records and i also agree that maybe they try to exagerrate to give off an appearance of being "bad' but i also feel that if you look at the lyrics themselves and see the meanings of some of these songs you would see the influence of drugs in their music

pair8head · Post by **pair8head** » April 29, 2004 10:54 am

ashaway1 wrote:desdamona, i dont see any animosity, what is wrong with a friendly debate, i feel that the majority of the posts on this topic have been factual and have not insulted anyone, i have no problem with people disagreeing with me as long as they have facts tob ack it up

Well I don't know if you meant it to be but I found this rather insulting.

pair8head if you knew anything about music...

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » April 29, 2004 10:55 am

ashaway1 wrote:pair8head i agree with you that a lot goes into the selling of a record and that the artists image goes a long way in helping to sell those records and i also agree that maybe they try to exagerrate to give off an appearance of being "bad' but i also feel that if you look at the lyrics themselves and see the meanings of some of these songs you would see the influence of drugs in their music

and what was your opinion of some of the meanings of some of the songs you mentioned such as Brown Sugar??? Obviously Cocaine is pretty self explanatory.

pair8head · Post by **pair8head** » April 29, 2004 10:57 am

ashaway1 wrote:pair8head i agree with you that a lot goes into the selling of a record and that the artists image goes a long way in helping to sell those records and i also agree that maybe they try to exagerrate to give off an appearance of being "bad' but i also feel that if you look at the lyrics themselves and see the meanings of some of these songs you would see the influence of drugs in their music

If you look at the lyrics of some of the songs from my mothers big band and old Dean Martin country albums you would see the same damn thing.

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 10:58 am

brown sugar is a reference to cheap mexican heroin that keith richards was addicted to at the time, another stones song jumpin jack flash, jumpin jacks were pills that the band often used

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 10:59 am

i apologize pair8head i should have been condescending towards your knowledge of music, it is apparent that you do know what you are talking about

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » April 29, 2004 10:59 am

ashaway1 wrote:desdamona, i dont see any animosity, what is wrong with a friendly debate, i feel that the majority of the posts on this topic have been factual and have not insulted anyone, i have no problem with people disagreeing with me as long as they have facts tob ack it up

but you have no facts to back up some of your opinions. Like telling a parent taking their child to a Buffett concert is irresponsible when a.) compared to quite a few of us you are still a child b.) you have no experience in raising children c.) from your comments you led a particularily sheltered life and now that you've broken free it appears as if you have gone a little "wild". I would rather my son attend concerts with me and learn how to handle himself and have a good time without getting stoned now then have to figure out how to do it later.

ashaway1 · Post by **ashaway1** » April 29, 2004 11:02 am

whatever man i am done talking to you about this, i was wild but who wasnt in college but i still graduated cum laude with a degree in accounting so everything works out, go to songfacts.com its a very interesting website that has info on a lot of songs, my facts come from that site, rolling stone magazine, just in generaly listening and researching music, i love it

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » April 29, 2004 11:10 am

ashaway1 wrote:whatever man

Better check again, Connie

pair8head · Post by **pair8head** » April 29, 2004 11:14 am

rednekkPH wrote:
ashaway1 wrote:whatever man
Better check again, Connie

No need to, I can tell you Connie is NOT a man.

zanth · Post by **zanth** » April 29, 2004 11:15 am

ashaway1 wrote:i was wild but who wasnt in college but i still graduated...

Not me. I was in the library the whole time studying, never touched any drugs, was always on-time for class

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » April 29, 2004 11:27 am

ashaway1 wrote:whatever man i am done talking to you about this, i was wild but who wasnt in college but i still graduated cum laude with a degree in accounting so everything works out, go to songfacts.com its a very interesting website that has info on a lot of songs, my facts come from that site, rolling stone magazine, just in generaly listening and researching music, i love it

You say you are not disrespectful however this is disrespectful considering a.) I am a woman and b.) old enough to be your mother and for a degreed professional you really couldn't tell it from your posts.

Desdamona · Post by **Desdamona** » April 29, 2004 11:28 am

Two degrees, no drugs, two grown kids...
Howcome this "accountant" is so sloppy with his communication skills?

BTW, the "go with your kids while they learn" is a wonderful way to let
them do things they wouldn't be allowed to experience otherwise. That's
exactly what I did, and I got to experience a lot of fun things that way too.
What other explanation is there for me being a TMBG fan???

And my boys insisted that they didn't mind my being there as long as they
got to go. Now they invite me to go. (Eric Clapton 4th row in June is next!)

pair8head · Post by **pair8head** » April 29, 2004 11:32 am

Desdamona wrote:Two degrees, no drugs, two grown kids...
Howcome this "accountant' is so sloppy with his communication skills?

BTW, the "go with your kids while they learn" is a wonderful way to let
them do things they wouldn't be allowed to experience otherwise. That's
exactly what I did, and I got to experience a lot of fun things that way too.
What other explanation is there for me being a TMBG fan???
And my boys insisted that they didn't mind my being there as long as they
got to go. Now they invite me to go. (Eric Clapton 4th row in June is next!)

That is gonna ROCK.