A Buffett-like Chesney

kurt · Post by **kurt** » May 10, 2004 12:18 pm

botdrnk wrote: Now everyone is a freakin' music critic. To all of you who think he's riding Jimmy's coattails....think of this.

For some reason I think you're talking to me!

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » May 10, 2004 12:31 pm

Nice to see the bi-weekly animosity of KC by the same people is still alive and strong. Bet it's not living in Marvin Gardens thou......

phenwayparrothead · Post by **phenwayparrothead** » May 10, 2004 12:41 pm

Chesney has his own style, they are in no way carbon copies of each other. Ya chesney looks up to jimmy and sees him as a musical role model. He is trying to follow jimmy's footsteps in playing a similar type of music. Jimmy is greatly influenced by harry belafonte, and even covers one of his songs, but u dont here people say jimmy is copying harry. If your a parrothead, and were a musician, your sound would probably be jimmy influenced to.

parrothead46 · Post by **parrothead46** » May 10, 2004 12:46 pm

He is trying to follow jimmy's footsteps in playing a similar type of music. Jimmy is greatly influenced by harry belafonte, and even covers one of his songs, but u dont here people say jimmy is copying harry.

Doesn't Buffett sing Greatful Dead songs? Do you ever hear anyone saying anything about that? I don't see what the big deal is.. So what if he is trying to be like Jimmy. Like I said before, it gives us another reason to go out and enjoy the type of music we like.. Buffett will always be the best. But up at the PSU concert that was the first time I ever heard anyone do a Buffett song and I am glad that it was Kenny because I feel that he would be the best one to pull it off perfectly.

botdrnk · Post by **botdrnk** » May 10, 2004 12:54 pm

AMEN!

I quit.

Pirate Lookin' at 40 · Post by **Pirate Lookin' at 40** » May 10, 2004 10:27 pm

First off - Kurt, I like you.

Second - mrmiata - Are you in Knoxville? I am right down the road in Clinton. I remember when Chesney played Cotton Eyed Joes around the time of his first release. I met him and shook his hand. He was a nice enough guy.

Third - Parrothead46 - You are right when you say that Buffett will not be around forever. But, for you to say that Kenny Chesney is the answer to that has got to be the most idiotic thing that I have read here, no offense intended.

I am going to explain this one more time:
All of you who are into today's country music, have no problem with KC trying to be Jimmy Buffett. You embrace it because he is part of a genre that you like (counrty music). But, country music fans make up only a small percentage of JB's loyal audience. Thus, for the most part, Kenny Chesney is not going to appeal to anyone who isn't into today's country music. You can dispute this all you want but it is fact. Another fact is that Kenny Chesney, just like the Dixie Chicks, Tim McGraw, Kieth Urban and countless others, does not want to be a country star. Instead, he wants to be Jimmy Buffett or John Mellencamp. Problem is, that there is no way that any of these people would be a success in anything but country music. This is why Kenny Chesney will never be a substitute for Jimmy Buffett. He simply does not appeal to most parrotheads that are not into country music. And by the way, I like country music.

I guess now comes the part where the personal attacks begin. It's a shame that because I have a different opinion than most on this subject, and I am very adament in my opinions, that some have to resort to name calling, (see my post from a couple of weeks ago). That's ok, though. I'm a big boy, I can take it.

phinhead · Post by **phinhead** » May 11, 2004 2:06 am

Okay so when I go to a RUSH concert next month I'm going to expect Geddy Lee to be dressed like Gene Simmons// RUSH will play a KISS song// When the RUSH fans arrive a few KISS songs will be on the loud speakers// and while they are playing a RUSH tune, the video screens will show album art of KISS// Oh, and b4 the RUSH concert, Paul Stanley and Ace Freely will come on the screen to welcome everyone to the RUSH concert...

Sorry, I don't agree with you.

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Ok-what's the big deal with KC covering a Buffett tune in his shows? Buffett does more than his fair share of covers. I think it's really cool that someone thinks enough of Buffetts music to cover him at a show. And it is also really nice of Buffett to endorse Kenny Chesney's live with an intro. Obviously the admiration goes both ways. It wouldn't surpridse me if Buffett at some point covers one of Chesney's tunes. KC lives the Island lifestyle and it influences his music, just as Buffett's lifestyle has influenced his music over the years. I don't think it's a crime for someone else to live, or write about the lifestyle we have attributed to Buffett.
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Lastplaneout · Post by **Lastplaneout** » May 11, 2004 3:56 am

I really do not like the modern country type music. I like how jimmy can take it and turn it around...making it not so " My dog died, my wife left me and I shot myself in the foot" type copuntry music. I am not a Chesney fan, start moving a little less country and maybe I could becme interested. No way CHesney could ever be a Buffet replacement for one HUGE reason....Lyrics. Jimmy is, and always will be a lyrical and poetic genious....screw Robert Frost. Chesney does not strike me as being a lyrically gifted..thougg correct me if im wrong

mrmiata · Post by **mrmiata** » May 11, 2004 6:42 am

Pirate Lookin' at 40 wrote:
Second - mrmiata - Are you in Knoxville?

Yuppers. I commute from West Knoxville to Halls 5-7 days a week.

botdrnk wrote:Unless you've actually seen the Kenny Chesney Tour this year

Won't happen. You see, like I said, he's not playing "back where he comes from." He'd rather play Allentown, PA and Portland, ME than 20 minutes down the road from Luttrell.

You know the phunny thing about all this. I own several Kenny Chesney albums. I like Kenny. I just think he's being a little (or more) disingenuous with the whole "seashell necklace" thing. I still dig the music. Much like I don't like Jimmy's politics but still dig the music.

parrothead46 · Post by **parrothead46** » May 11, 2004 9:52 am

Third - Parrothead46 - You are right when you say that Buffett will not be around forever. But, for you to say that Kenny Chesney is the answer to that has got to be the most idiotic thing that I have read here, no offense intended.

You embrace it because he is part of a genre that you like (counrty music). But, country music fans make up only a small percentage of JB's loyal audience.

I totally agree with you on this about how we who like country music can embrace it easier. That’s understandable. But what I think, and you will probably shoot me down again, but I don't care HA! Kenny is starting to play the "same" type of music that draws us parrotheads to Buffett. Many of my friends today who like Buffett did not like him or did not know of him during my high school years. "I am 20" Today A LOT of my friends love Jimmy and want to go to his concerts. People can change. Most of my friends listen to rap or punk but they started listening to Buffett and Country.. I think Buffett to country would be a little easier since Jimmy's new CD has Country music stars all through it. Now about the part where I said Kenny could be the answer to us parrotheads. Yes, I might be wrong by saying that but if you look at it by a big picture. Who else plays a concert like Buffett.. Well no one really, but Kenny is probably the closest to him. I just feel that once Jimmy is done touring which, I hope is not anytime soon, we need to have an atmosphere like the style Buffett puts on. I just feel that Kenny COULD be an answer to finding a similar atmosphere. I’m not saying that we will love Kenny the way we do with Jimmy because it will never be the same but he is the closest I feel to Buffett right now at this point in time.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » May 11, 2004 11:33 am

I do wonder if and when Buffett stops touring, will Parrotheads start flocking to Chesney concerts like some Deadheads did to Phish concerts following the death of Jerry Garcia? All due respect to Chesney fans, but I know I won't.

Another thing that makes me wonder is why Buffett so embraces Chesney's love of his music but he came down so hard on Garth Brooks a few years ago when the did that "Two Pina Coladas" song. For whatever it's worth, I'm a fan of neither Brooks or Chesney but I know there's a lot of fans of both here. I prefer my country to be of the cheatin' and drinkin' variety just like God, er I mean Johnny Cash intended.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » May 11, 2004 11:47 am

I saw an interview with Johnny Cash before he died and he was very happy about the cross over musicians of today. He felt it was a good thing for all music.

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » May 11, 2004 11:57 am

Big Red Parrothead wrote:Chesney had already established himself as a country star and sold over 10 million albums long before these latest "Buffettesque" releases. So I think it's inaccurate to accuse him of "riding the coattails" of Buffett.

Why is it so hard to believe that Chesney could actually be a Parrothead and is playing that kind of music because he likes it?

Man, all this time I thought I was the only rational thinker around but now I realize that all Husker fans are of above average intelligence.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » May 11, 2004 12:12 pm

ph4ever wrote:I saw an interview with Johnny Cash before he died and he was very happy about the cross over musicians of today. He felt it was a good thing for all music.

I'm not sure what artists he was referring to but if he meant the current crop like Chesney, Keith Urban, Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Shania Twain, etc. then I'd have to disagree with him there. All the majority of them have to offer is a watered down version of country music that is closer to pop. If he meant crossover in the sense of artists like Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams, Buddy Miller, Gillian Welch and David Rawlings, etc, then we're in total agreement. I do wonder what he would of thought of the current collaboration between Loretta Lynn and Jack White from the White Stripes especially since he spent so much of his latter years working with Rick Rubin. I know it's some of the best country music I've heard in quite sometime and way closer to the real thing than the pop crap that Nashville is spewing out these days.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » May 11, 2004 12:51 pm

I believe he was discussing the newer cross overs. Besides what good does it do to disagree with a dead man's opinions?? I'm just responding to the post that stated

I prefer my country to be of the cheatin' and drinkin' variety just like God, er I mean Johnny Cash intended

and adding the comment that I heard Johnny Cash was happy with the cross overs and felt it was a good thing.

jbfinscj · Post by **jbfinscj** » May 11, 2004 1:02 pm

Johnny Cash was the man. I always believed that he was the nucleus that all other great singers stemmed from. Just my opinion

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » May 11, 2004 1:10 pm

ph4ever wrote:I believe he was discussing the newer cross overs. Besides what good does it do to disagree with a dead man's opinions?? I'm just responding to the post that stated

I prefer my country to be of the cheatin' and drinkin' variety just like God, er I mean Johnny Cash intended
and adding the comment that I heard Johnny Cash was happy with the cross overs and felt it was a good thing.

Johnny Cash aside, I prefer the artists I mentioned over the majority of what passes for country music today.

phenwayparrothead · Post by **phenwayparrothead** » May 11, 2004 1:15 pm

I really do not like the modern country type music. I like how jimmy can take it and turn it around...making it not so " My dog died, my wife left me and I shot myself in the foot" type copuntry music

"Woke up just the other day
Fell out of bed and my dog ran away.
The car won't start and the weather was cold and gray.
I got stuck in a traffic jam,
My major meeting didn't go as I planned.
Looks like it's gonna be another one of those days. "
-jb (lucky star)
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PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » May 11, 2004 1:20 pm

Jahfin wrote: Johnny Cash aside, I prefer the artists I mentioned over the majority of what passes for country music today.

There are alot of great artists out there that do not get the recognition that they deserve. I will admit that I do not like the Faith Hill, Shania Twain, (Both are easy on the eyes) Dixie Chicks, (Not easy on the eyes) sound. However, I will not proclaim that it is crap. But for my music dollar there is nothing better than Pat Green, Chris Knight or Cory Morrow

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » May 11, 2004 1:32 pm

PHBeerman wrote:
Jahfin wrote: Johnny Cash aside, I prefer the artists I mentioned over the majority of what passes for country music today.
There are alot of great artists out there that do not get the recognition that they deserve. I will admit that I do not like the Faith Hill, Shania Twain, (Both are easy on the eyes) Dixie Chicks, (Not easy on the eyes) sound. However, I will not proclaim that it is crap. But for my music dollar there is nothing better than Pat Green, Chris Knight or Cory Morrow

I like Chris Knight but don't care for either Pat Green or Cory Morrow. I'm not the world's biggest Dixie Chicks fan either but they can at least play their own instruments. The majority of artists I like fall under the Americana, Ya'llternative, alt.country, etc. category. If people like Shania, Faith, etc., to each their own, it's just not my cup of tea and never has been, dating all the way back to the early 70s Outlaw movement when folks like Waylon, Willie, Cash, etc. all railed against the system. There's a lot of artists out there today with those same ideals but you're not going to hear them on most commercial country radio outlets or CMT. Satellite radio and some internet radio outlets welcome them with open arms though which is fine by me.