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JTrevisol wrote:My problem with TM is the fees. Here in NC it is illegal for me to resell a ticket for more than $3 over face value. That means I cannot even ask for what I paid for it since TM charges way more than $3 and those charges are not printed anywhere on the ticket.

save your receipts......

phenwayparrothead wrote:The situation really isnt tht bad. You go to a sox game and the good seats for the good games are not filled wiht real fans, but instead corporate peoplewho can afford season tickets.

What makes you think they're not "real fans" (I really wish people would stop using that phrase) just because they're "corporate people"?

N.C.G.S. § 14-344. Sale of admission tickets in excess of printed price.
Any person, firm, or corporation shall be allowed to add a reasonable service fee to the face value of the tickets sold, and the person, firm, or corporation which sells or resells such tickets shall not be permitted to recoup funds greater than the combined face value of the ticket, tax, and the authorized service fee. This service fee may not exceed three dollars ($3.00) for each ticket except that a promoter or operator of the property where the event is to be held and a ticket sales agency may agree in writing on a reasonable service fee greater than three dollars ($3.00) for the first sale of tickets by the ticket sales agent. This service fee may be a pre-established amount per ticket or a percentage of each ticket. The existence of the service fee shall be made known to the public by printing or writing the amount of the fee on the tickets which are printed for the event. Any person, firm or corporation which sells or offers to sell a ticket for a price greater than the price permitted by this section shall be guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor. (1941, c. 180; 1969, c. 1224, s. 8; 1977, c. 9; 1979, c. 909; 1981, c. 36; 1985, c. 434; 1991, c. 165; 1993, c. 539, s. 232; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)

I've only had 1 particularly bad experience with ticketmaster... 3 of us were online at separate locations, and all three of us were DUMPED right out of the system. Wait time jumped from 2 minutes to 20 to 10 to 30... and we were afraid to "get out of line"... so we all ended up empty... and missed the live recording at GW. I still believe the reason we were shut out was because the 2002 GW shows had a 4 ticket limit, and the 2003 shows had an 8 ticket limit. Mathematically, it seems as though 1/2 of the people who got tickets for 2002 were shut out of 2003 because of the increase in ticket limits. That just really sucked.

I do think that the convenience and service charges are a BIG rip off. I see no problem in paying for the following: printing each ticket, perforating each ticket, checking off each ticket for inventory...this shouldn't cost more than $5 per ticket. Yes, we have to pay for the convenience of the tickets being sent to us (which is only 37 - 60 cents for regular mail ).

Even though I hate the bastids, they're really my only option and are still cheaper than the independent agencies (aka legal scalpers).

to those people who b**** about TM I pose this question. How is it that some people on this site get tickets thru Tm for every show while others do not. What are those people who get tickets doing differently than those people who do not get tickets. I'm just curious what you guys think.

I am by no means what one would call a computer genius. I have been lucky enough to get tickets for every show in Chicago for the last 3 years, albeit none of the tickets were in the prime locations Sections 102-103 or 104. I think also the fact that I usually just go with my wife to one of the shows and a friend to the other. Maybe those of you in groups of 8 might want to run the risk of ordering tickets in groups of 2 or 4 instead of trying to get 8 together might help. You can still all party together before, during intermission and after.

honestly, it's all about luck... ALL about luck....

With a little love and luck, you will get by!

I'm more disgusted with fees than the actual service rendered....

I have mixed feelings about ticketmaster. I am not a fan of them, nor will I ever be convinced to be one. I'm okay with the actual charge for the tickets, however, the "fees" are outrageous and just plain highway robbery.

What exactly do they do with the fees? Only a $1 (correct me if I'm wrong) goes toward a charitable organization, so is the remainder of the fee used to pay for the ink, paper, etc? That's inflation several times over if that's the reason.

Also now they are encouraging the "ticketfast" delivery to make things easier for us to have our tickets immediately, but they charge us an additional $2.50 to print the tickets from our own homes....

can someone tell me the justification to this?

What makes you think they're not "real fans" (I really wish people would stop using that phrase) just because they're "corporate people"?

have u been to a sox game? Compare the crowd in the bleachers with the crowd behind homeplate, its like being at two different parks.[/quote]

phenwayparrothead wrote:

What makes you think they're not "real fans" (I really wish people would stop using that phrase) just because they're "corporate people"?

have u been to a sox game? Compare the crowd in the bleachers with the crowd behind homeplate, its like being at two different parks.

[/quote]so sitting in a certain section makes you a real fan?so if i go to a game and sit behind homeplate i'd be a real fan,even though i HATE baseball?

I'm saying compare the people who sit behind home and the people in the bleachers, you get a few real baseball fans behind home, but otherwise the rest of the seats are owned by large corporations who give the tickets away to high profile clietns, who may or may not care about the game, but instead waste the seat by going to the game for a couple of innings and leaving.

psychjava wrote:I have mixed feelings about ticketmaster. I am not a fan of them, nor will I ever be convinced to be one. I'm okay with the actual charge for the tickets, however, the "fees" are outrageous and just plain highway robbery.

As opposed to the ridiculously inflated ticket prices when going to a broker? Give me a break. Why is everyone complaining about a measily $3 fee to ticketmaster? I'll pay a minimal fee to ticketmaster over going through a broker anyday.

12Volt wrote:

psychjava wrote:I have mixed feelings about ticketmaster. I am not a fan of them, nor will I ever be convinced to be one. I'm okay with the actual charge for the tickets, however, the "fees" are outrageous and just plain highway robbery.

As opposed to the ridiculously inflated ticket prices when going to a broker? Give me a break. Why is everyone complaining about a measily $3 fee to ticketmaster? I'll pay a minimal fee to ticketmaster over going through a broker anyday.

great theory if most people could GET them from ticketbastard in the first place.for GW at least you had better get them within 2 minutes of going on sale or you will be dealing with a broker.which of course is again ticketbastards fault in the first place

I really can't stand ticketmaster either though. They're a major part of the problem because they allow the legallized scalping to continue. Just imagine if every other consumer product on the market was the same way.

12Volt wrote:

psychjava wrote:I have mixed feelings about ticketmaster. I am not a fan of them, nor will I ever be convinced to be one. I'm okay with the actual charge for the tickets, however, the "fees" are outrageous and just plain highway robbery.

As opposed to the ridiculously inflated ticket prices when going to a broker? Give me a break. Why is everyone complaining about a measily $3 fee to ticketmaster? I'll pay a minimal fee to ticketmaster over going through a broker anyday.

Excuse me? $3? I have a ticket order in at this moment that the ticket cost me $42 each for 2, the facility charge cost $3.50 which I cannot blame on TM, but they did charge me $7.90 per ticket for convenience of doing business with them. THEN they charged me $4.10 for an "order processing fee". So for $82 worth of tickets I am paying them $19.90. Don't know about you, but I usually don't pay someone 25% more because they are doing their job. Granted, I will tip a server this much, but not for basic service. I am talking about them reeeeeaaalllly doing a great job.

Oh, and be careful about the TicketFast option. 1) you will not be able to resell if you have people back out (anyone can print dozens from the file, but only the first person can get in) and 2) if the show cancels, you do not get that $2.50 back.

JTrevisol wrote:Excuse me? $3? I have a ticket order in at this moment that the ticket cost me $42 each for 2, the facility charge cost $3.50 which I cannot blame on TM, but they did charge me $7.90 per ticket for convenience of doing business with them. THEN they charged me $4.10 for an "order processing fee". So for $82 worth of tickets I am paying them $19.90. Don't know about you, but I usually don't pay someone 25% more because they are doing their job. Granted, I will tip a server this much, but not for basic service. I am talking about them reeeeeaaalllly doing a great job.

Oh, and be careful about the TicketFast option. 1) you will not be able to resell if you have people back out (anyone can print dozens from the file, but only the first person can get in) and 2) if the show cancels, you do not get that $2.50 back.

hey,that gives me an idea.i'm goin to work tomorrow and demand a convenience fee for doing my job

Now, tomm, you can't be typing in all lower case, we will all think that someone hacked your password.

Also, if it were possible to somehow eliminate the brokers, there would have literally been thousands of tickets for all of us to possibly get directly from ticketmaster. Granted the shows still would have sold out relativly quickly, but the tickets would have gone directly to the people who actually want to go to the concerts, and at face value.

Damn the middle man!

JTrevisol wrote:Now, tomm, you can't be typing in all lower case, we will all think that someone hacked your password.

i'm at home,CAPS are only from work

tommcat327 wrote:

JTrevisol wrote:Now, tomm, you can't be typing in all lower case, we will all think that someone hacked your password.

i'm at home,CAPS are only from work

ahhhhh, that would explain the caps/anger (and maybe the 25%).