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Posted: May 28, 2004 5:14 pm
by Key Lime Lee
phrankbama wrote:
Boy, I haven't heard of any of those guys. I must really be out of the loop, or just really mainstream.
None of them get a lot of airplay but... you should check them out. If you hold them side by side to most "mainstream" country artists, the folks getting all the radio play come across more like the Backstreet Boys than artists.
Heck, Jay Farrar's career alone is worth exploring... Uncle Tupelo and Son Volt were both great bands (of course, Uncle Tupelo was Farrar's project with Wilco founder Jeff Tweedy).
Posted: May 28, 2004 5:15 pm
by sailingagain
Jahfin wrote:sailingagain wrote:I'll obviously get the album, and I might even love it, but I am a little worried. I'm just not a country fan.

Does that mean you've never liked any of the country influenced stuff he's done before which makes up a great deal of his recorded output over the years? By the way, I'm not pickin', just askin'. It seems the "Buffett has gone country" thing is a popular complaint these days and it strikes me as odd because it's always been a key part of his sound, at least to my ears.
I've never enjoyed his "country influenced" music even half as much as his "island" influenced stuff. In fact, the only Jimmy albums I don't have are his earliest stuff because I heard them and didn't take to them. I'd say the only album that I really enjoy that seems heavy on the country influence is A1A.
Posted: May 28, 2004 5:42 pm
by Havaña Dreamer
Key Lime Lee wrote:
Heck, Jay Farrar's career alone is worth exploring... Uncle Tupelo and Son Volt were both great bands (of course, Uncle Tupelo was Farrar's project with Wilco founder Jeff Tweedy).
Jay Farrar was born and raised about an hour south of me.
I just read that on Music Match.

Posted: May 28, 2004 6:35 pm
by DeactiveCarib
tryin' to reason wrote:Desdamona wrote:Has "Five O'Clock Somewhere" been released as a studio track on any
Buffett CD yet? Maybe I missed something... I know it's an AJ song and
all, but you'd think it'd be around Bubba-land officially somewhere.
It's on the Conchy Tonk CD that came out late last year...

Am I missing something major here!! What is the Conchy Tonk album??
Thanks,

Posted: May 28, 2004 6:36 pm
by DeactiveCarib
tryin' to reason wrote:Desdamona wrote:Has "Five O'Clock Somewhere" been released as a studio track on any
Buffett CD yet? Maybe I missed something... I know it's an AJ song and
all, but you'd think it'd be around Bubba-land officially somewhere.
It's on the Conchy Tonk CD that came out late last year...

Am I missing something major here!! What is the Conchy Tonk album??
Thanks,

Posted: May 28, 2004 7:15 pm
by Key Lime Lee
DsilCaribe wrote:tryin' to reason wrote:Desdamona wrote:Has "Five O'Clock Somewhere" been released as a studio track on any
Buffett CD yet? Maybe I missed something... I know it's an AJ song and
all, but you'd think it'd be around Bubba-land officially somewhere.
It's on the Conchy Tonk CD that came out late last year...

Am I missing something major here!! What is the Conchy Tonk album??
Thanks,

It was a joke about the now-retitled LTC album.
Posted: May 28, 2004 7:48 pm
by Cubbie Bear
Ja, as seldom as it is we agree, the outlaw country movement is what made me a country fan. Willie, "Shotgun Wille" Waylon "Honky Tonk Heros", Tompaul Glaser, Emmy Lou Harris are the artists thart made me a country fan in the 70's.
The Eagles, Heartsfield, Marshall Tucker, Wet Willie and Charlie Daniels were my other favorites , pre -Jimmy
I will be checking out some of these that you have mentioned. Remember how "out there" the Kentucky Headhunters were once.
I love the alternative stuff, just don't get exposed to it here in "mainstream-land"
Posted: May 28, 2004 8:26 pm
by Ilph
Cubbie Bear wrote:I love the alternative stuff, just don't get exposed to it here in "mainstream-land"
What? You mean US 99 doesn't play non-cookie cutter stuff?

Posted: May 30, 2004 12:57 pm
by prrthd1987
Tiki Bar wrote:phrankbama wrote:prrthd1987 wrote:
Did I miss a Conchy Tonk album because I am lost!
So am I, can someone clue us in?
It's just sarcasm gone a bit too far. Conchy Tonk didn't happen, License to Chill is due July 13th.

Thanks for clearin it up JoAnn! Everybody had me thinking I missed something there!
Posted: May 30, 2004 12:59 pm
by prrthd1987
Ilph wrote:Cubbie Bear wrote:I love the alternative stuff, just don't get exposed to it here in "mainstream-land"
What? You mean US 99 doesn't play non-cookie cutter stuff?

Nope they don't! Thats why I listen to WCCQ, although they were acquired by NextMedia and I fear they will become more cookie cutter.
Posted: May 31, 2004 3:15 pm
by Ilph
[quote="prrthd1987]Nope they don't! Thats why I listen to WCCQ, although they were acquired by NextMedia and I fear they will become more cookie cutter.[/quote]
Is that The Wolf?
Posted: May 31, 2004 5:29 pm
by jbfinscj
If were mentioning Alt-country, then you can't forget Ryan Adams' solo work. Plus, even those these artists aren't really considered alt-country, they still don't recieve radio play. The artists that I am thinking of include Rodney Crowell. Jerry Jeff Walker, Townes Van Zandt, Doc Watson, Guy Clark, and Nancy Griffith
Posted: June 1, 2004 12:24 pm
by Jahfin
phrankbama wrote:Jahfin wrote:Havaña Dreamer wrote:Jahfin wrote:phrankbama wrote:Countyr music today is not at all what it use to be. I listen to the local counrty station here and most of the music sounds more like Pop then country. I also think it is closer to Jimmy's music then anything else you'll find out there.
I'm not really looking for any music that sounds like Jimmy's but I do have to agree with the pop country thing. When it comes to that I've found there always other choices. Back in the 70s I liked a lot of the "outlaw" stuff that was deemed too noncommercial for the radio. These days things aren't that much different and the outlaw movement lives on in the form of "alt.country" artists such Whiskeytown, Slobberbone, the Old 97s, the $2 Pistols, Thad Cockrell, Wilco, Caitlin Cary, the Bottle Rockets, Jay Farrar, Drive-By Truckers, Gillian Welch, Tift Merritt, and tons of other bands. If you're looking for some good music these days you have to look other places besides the radio and music television.
ALT COUNTRY ROCKS!!

I wholeheartedly agree, give me any and all of the above artists (and that list is only the tip of the iceberg, believe me) over the majority of today's "country" stars.
Boy, I haven't heard of any of those guys. I must really be out of the loop, or just really mainstream.
I heard of these artists the same way I did Waylon, Willie, the New Riders of the Purple Sage, Goose Creek Symphony, the Earl Scruggs Revue, Guy Clark, John Prine, Jerry Jeff, Steve Goodman, David Allan Coe, Pure Prairie League, Little Feat, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, and others back in the 70s; through word of mouth, certainly not the radio, so I honestly don't see where anything's changed. The same held true in the 80s when I got into bands like the Long Ryders, the Cruzados, Lone Justice, Rank n' File, X, The Blasters, Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett, Los Lobos, the Beat Farmers, etc. In the 90s and 00s the same thing happened with Uncle Tupelo, Webb Wilder, Wilco, Son Volt, and many of the other bands I've already mentioned so I never looked at it as a "mainstream" thing, I've always looked beyond what was on the radio for good music. If I hadn't, I would of never discovered plenty of other artists like R.E.M. or the Replacements either. These days "word of mouth" extends to the internet, it's just a different means of word of mouth where "word" travels much quicker. If anyone is interested, there's a magazine devoted to this genre of music called No Depression, which was taken from the title track to Uncle Tupelo's first album, which they took from an old Carter Family song but it also goes by many other monikers including but not limited to: Ya'llternative, Americana, Insurgent Country, etc.
Posted: June 1, 2004 12:34 pm
by Jahfin
jbfinscj wrote:If were mentioning Alt-country, then you can't forget Ryan Adams' solo work. Plus, even those these artists aren't really considered alt-country, they still don't recieve radio play. The artists that I am thinking of include Rodney Crowell. Jerry Jeff Walker, Townes Van Zandt, Doc Watson, Guy Clark, and Nancy Griffith
If I wanted to list every "alt.country" artist I'm a fan of I'd be here all day doing so. I did mention Whiskeytown who I feel were more "alt.country" than Ryan has been throughout his solo career which is not a knock against Ryan it's just an observation. Out of all the albums he's released, I'd only consider one of them to be thoroughly alt.country and that would be Heartbreaker. Whenever music gets labeled you are always going to run into the confines that label puts on it and alt.country is no exception. It can describe everything from bluegrass to folk to roots-rock to goth influenced country music like Trailer Bride and Jim White. In the 70s a lot of the artists you list would be described as "country-rock" and I feel the same things that put them into that category still applies to them today under the alt.country label.
Posted: June 1, 2004 2:18 pm
by conched
Is the song, "Someone I Used To Love," Jimmy is doing with Nanci Griffith the Bruce Cockburn song?
If so that makes two since Anything Anytime Anywhere is also a Bruce Cockburn song.
Sitting here listening to Someone I Used To Love...

Good song! 'course I love me all!
Posted: June 1, 2004 2:35 pm
by conched
Actually I guess if Jimmy is doing "Someone I Used to Love" and "Anything Anytime, Anyhere" that brings the total of Bruce Cockburn songs to 4 with "Pacing the Cage" from BHOTM and "All The Ways I Want You" from Far Side.
Posted: June 1, 2004 2:48 pm
by 7lords
Jahfin wrote:phrankbama wrote:Jahfin wrote:Havaña Dreamer wrote:Jahfin wrote:phrankbama wrote:Countyr music today is not at all what it use to be. I listen to the local counrty station here and most of the music sounds more like Pop then country. I also think it is closer to Jimmy's music then anything else you'll find out there.
I'm not really looking for any music that sounds like Jimmy's but I do have to agree with the pop country thing. When it comes to that I've found there always other choices. Back in the 70s I liked a lot of the "outlaw" stuff that was deemed too noncommercial for the radio. These days things aren't that much different and the outlaw movement lives on in the form of "alt.country" artists such
Whiskeytown, Slobberbone,
the Old 97s, the $2 Pistols, Thad Cockrell,
Wilco, Caitlin Cary,
the Bottle Rockets, Jay Farrar, Drive-By Truckers, Gillian Welch, Tift Merritt, and tons of other bands. If you're looking for some good music these days you have to look other places besides the radio and music television.
ALT COUNTRY ROCKS!!

I wholeheartedly agree, give me any and all of the above artists (and that list is only the tip of the iceberg, believe me) over the majority of today's "country" stars.
Boy, I haven't heard of any of those guys. I must really be out of the loop, or just really mainstream.
I heard of these artists the same I did Waylon, Willie, the New Riders of the Purple Sage, Goose Creek Symphony, the Earl Scruggs Revue, Guy Clark,
John Prine, Jerry Jeff, Steve Goodman, David Allan Coe,
Pure Prairie League,
Little Feat, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, and others back in the 70s; through word of mouth, certainly not the radio, so I honestly don't see where anything's changed. The same held true in the 80s when I got into bands like the Long Ryders, the Cruzados, Lone Justice, Rank n' File,
X, The Blasters,
Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett, Los Lobos, the Beat Farmers, etc. In the 90s and 00s the same thing happened with
Uncle Tupelo, Webb Wilder, Wilco,
Son Volt, and many of the other bands I've already mentioned so I never looked at it as a "mainstream" thing, I've always looked beyond what was on the radio for good music. If I hadn't, I would of never discovered plenty of other artists like R.E.M. or the Replacements either. These days "word of mouth" extends to the internet, it's just a different means of word of mouth where "word" travels much quicker. If anyone is interested, there's a magazine devoted to this genre of music called No Depression, which was taken from the title track to Uncle Tupelo's first album, which they took from an old Carter Family song but it also goes by many other monikers including but not limited to: Ya'llternative, Americana, Insurgent Country, etc.
Wow. See we agree on a lot of artists too - I've seen all of the artists in bold above live

Posted: June 1, 2004 3:50 pm
by Jahfin
7lords wrote:Jahfin wrote:phrankbama wrote:Jahfin wrote:Havaña Dreamer wrote:Jahfin wrote:
I'm not really looking for any music that sounds like Jimmy's but I do have to agree with the pop country thing. When it comes to that I've found there always other choices. Back in the 70s I liked a lot of the "outlaw" stuff that was deemed too noncommercial for the radio. These days things aren't that much different and the outlaw movement lives on in the form of "alt.country" artists such Whiskeytown, Slobberbone, the Old 97s, the $2 Pistols, Thad Cockrell, Wilco, Caitlin Cary, the Bottle Rockets, Jay Farrar, Drive-By Truckers, Gillian Welch, Tift Merritt, and tons of other bands. If you're looking for some good music these days you have to look other places besides the radio and music television.
ALT COUNTRY ROCKS!!

I wholeheartedly agree, give me any and all of the above artists (and that list is only the tip of the iceberg, believe me) over the majority of today's "country" stars.
Boy, I haven't heard of any of those guys. I must really be out of the loop, or just really mainstream.
I heard of these artists the same I did Waylon, Willie, the New Riders of the Purple Sage, Goose Creek Symphony, the Earl Scruggs Revue, Guy Clark,
John Prine, Jerry Jeff, Steve Goodman, David Allan Coe,
Pure Prairie League,
Little Feat, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, and others back in the 70s; through word of mouth, certainly not the radio, so I honestly don't see where anything's changed. The same held true in the 80s when I got into bands like the Long Ryders, the Cruzados, Lone Justice, Rank n' File,
X, The Blasters,
Steve Earle, Lyle Lovett, Los Lobos, the Beat Farmers, etc. In the 90s and 00s the same thing happened with
Uncle Tupelo, Webb Wilder, Wilco,
Son Volt, and many of the other bands I've already mentioned so I never looked at it as a "mainstream" thing, I've always looked beyond what was on the radio for good music. If I hadn't, I would of never discovered plenty of other artists like R.E.M. or the Replacements either. These days "word of mouth" extends to the internet, it's just a different means of word of mouth where "word" travels much quicker. If anyone is interested, there's a magazine devoted to this genre of music called No Depression, which was taken from the title track to Uncle Tupelo's first album, which they took from an old Carter Family song but it also goes by many other monikers including but not limited to: Ya'llternative, Americana, Insurgent Country, etc.
Wow. See we agree on a lot of artists too - I've seen all of the artists in bold above live

Cool that you got to see Uncle Tupelo before they broke up. I never did get to see them but have seen Wilco numerous times. I'm also a big Drive-By Truckers fan. I can remember when they were playing to just a handful of people around here (NC) but the last time they were through here they were playing to a near capacity crowd at one of Raleigh's larger local venues, the Lincoln Theater. They also recently did a cover of Tom Petty's
Rebels that was featured on King of the Hill a couple of weekends ago.
Posted: June 1, 2004 4:05 pm
by Gumbo
Wilco and Ryan Adams/Whiskeytown run neck and neck with each other behind Buffett for my personal listening tastes. I love some Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Hank, etc., but you can't get your fix off of country radio anymore. Wilco and Ryan Adams/Whiskeytown fill that void very nicely. Wilco's new album will be out in a little over a month. They are allowing streaming off their website of the entire album...
http://www.wilcoworld.net/
Click on the link to stream. My favorite so far off the yet-to-be-released album is probably "Hummingbird".
Posted: June 1, 2004 4:36 pm
by changingchannels
Is there enough covers on this or what?????holy crap!