What is up with Nascar???

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » July 12, 2004 1:01 pm

Yeeeehaaaaaaaaaaawwwwww!

jollymon345 · Post by **jollymon345** » July 12, 2004 1:06 pm

Key Lime Lee wrote:
jollymon345 wrote: One thing that I noticed and I have not heard many people mention was how at the end when Tony got out of his car in Victory Lane how he smugly reached on the top of his car and threw down the Tropicana carton they had put up there. I am sure that the sponsors were not very happy about that.
See - you're letting your pre-conceived bias against Tony skew your perspective...

Yes, he knocked the Tropicana container off the car. Smugly? No - it's just the course of business in NASCAR, the same way all the Pepsi guys throw the big Powerade bottles off the top of the car the second they get out of the window in victory lane.

Pepsi sponsored drivers have been throwing the Coke-owned beverages (powerade) off the car all year. so Tony (a Coke sponsored driver) knocked the Pepsi-owned Tropicana container off the car.

I swear to god it's like watching a witch hunt.

It is not a witch hunt my friend. My point is that the race was sponsored and paid for by the Pepsi-owned Tropicana so they are in a way signing his paycheck. I have seen others do it but IMO not with the same attitude. I have no problem with him removing it. The way he did it was the problem because he seemed to have an attitude about the whole thing.

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 12, 2004 1:13 pm

jollymon345 wrote:
It is not a witch hunt my friend. My point is that the race was sponsored and paid for by the Pepsi-owned Tropicana so they are in a way signing his paycheck. I have seen others do it but IMO not with the same attitude. I have no problem with him removing it. The way he did it was the problem because he seemed to have an attitude about the whole thing.

I think that's your perspective ...

From my perspective Jimmy Johnson or Gordon's pushing the giant Powerade bottles off the car was far more obnoxious.

Frankly I don't think NASCAR should let ANY of them knock stuff off personally... sponsors deserve their airtime.

jollymon345 · Post by **jollymon345** » July 12, 2004 2:12 pm

Key Lime Lee wrote:
jollymon345 wrote:
It is not a witch hunt my friend. My point is that the race was sponsored and paid for by the Pepsi-owned Tropicana so they are in a way signing his paycheck. I have seen others do it but IMO not with the same attitude. I have no problem with him removing it. The way he did it was the problem because he seemed to have an attitude about the whole thing.
I think that's your perspective ... From my perspective Jimmy Johnson or Gordon's pushing the giant Powerade bottles off the car was far more obnoxious.

Frankly I don't think NASCAR should let ANY of them knock stuff off personally... sponsors deserve their airtime.

I agree with that. I don't pay much attention to Jeff unless his car is going in the garage or the wall. I don't remember who it was but about 2 or 3 years ago somebody won a race and started with the normal thank you speech and said that the "pepsi,NAPA,GMC,Kool Aid........and named like 10 sponsors and then started looking at his car to make sure he did not forget all the sponsors. That cracked me up. Most of the time I don't listen to the after race interviews because instead of hearing what the driver says alot of times you have to listen to a sponsor being mentioned every other word. That is why I can't say that I really notice the other bottles being tossed. I only watched yesterday to hear Tony's side of the wreck.

LaTda · Post by **LaTda** » July 12, 2004 8:43 pm

I'm glad there are Tony Stewarts & Jimmy Spencers in NASCAR, JUST like Tony said, there are way too many robots out there driving nascars...

I don't like how sterile nascar has become & how wishy washy nascar has been with the rules too...

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » July 12, 2004 8:48 pm

LaTda wrote:I'm glad there are Tony Stewarts & Jimmy Spencers in NASCAR, JUST like Tony said, there are way too many robots out there driving nascars...
I don't like how sterile nascar has become & how wishy washy nascar has been with the rules too...

I miss the good old days when the Drivers would never have passed
a BAL test on race day.

LaTda · Post by **LaTda** » July 12, 2004 8:57 pm

Sidew13 wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:
Lastplaneout wrote:Tony Stewart is awesome! I cannot stand the man and is probably the worst when it comes to sportsmanship. Getting all hissy and putting someone in the wall is not cool nor funny. I think NASCAR should do more to get a hold of this...but since 95% of the viewing audience are rednecks that drink nothin' but Busch light in the can and like that kinda thing, i don't think anything will cjhange anytime soon.
Not much you can do when a guy backs out of the throttle early on a restart.... if you're trying to spin someone you don't do it by running straight into the back of them...

Was it reckless driving on Tony Stewart's part, NO. Could he been a little less agressive on the restart, Maybe = AMEN
If people wuld just stop listening to DW's unwarranted b**** sessions about Tony they'd see this as just a racing incident...
Yes DW has a mouth that won't stop. But when Tony cut down DW a few weeks back. I say let the fur fly.

I vaguely remember that! took me aback a bit, I like DW BUT he has had a mouth (nicknamed JAWS) for a very long time.
I'm SOOOOO glad "boogity- blah blah blah" is gone for another 6 months........

LaTda · Post by **LaTda** » July 12, 2004 9:01 pm

ragtopW wrote:
LaTda wrote:I'm glad there are Tony Stewarts & Jimmy Spencers in NASCAR, JUST like Tony said, there are way too many robots out there driving nascars...
I don't like how sterile nascar has become & how wishy washy nascar has been with the rules too...
I miss the good old days when the Drivers would never have passed
a BAL test on race day.

LOL, yup or how about Dick Trickle getting caught with the in car camera lighting up a smoke during a caution

he actually had a stock cigg lighter in the dash (at least I think it was him , hmm senior moment)

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 12, 2004 9:13 pm

LaTda wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
LaTda wrote:I'm glad there are Tony Stewarts & Jimmy Spencers in NASCAR, JUST like Tony said, there are way too many robots out there driving nascars...
I don't like how sterile nascar has become & how wishy washy nascar has been with the rules too...
I miss the good old days when the Drivers would never have passed
a BAL test on race day.
LOL, yup or how about Dick Trickle getting caught with the in car camera lighting up a smoke during a caution he actually had a stock cigg lighter in the dash (at least I think it was him , hmm senior moment)

It was him... he also had a sheet metal cigarette pack holder welded to the roll bars to hold his smokes... somewhere in the basement I have the photos to prove it.

Sidew13 · Post by **Sidew13** » July 13, 2004 5:12 am

AH yes, Dick Trickle was a time less classic.

BTW, I actually prefer the FOX crew to the NBC crew. I could stand DW better than Wally and Benny

BananaWinds · Post by **BananaWinds** » July 13, 2004 11:23 am

Benny is awesome, he sees stuff happening 1st, everytime & doesn't ooooooooh ahhhhhhhh like other announcers, he just calls it as he sees it.

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » July 13, 2004 11:45 am

BananaWinds wrote:Benny is awesome, he sees stuff happening 1st, everytime & doesn't ooooooooh ahhhhhhhh like other announcers, he just calls it as he sees it.

Sure, once he sees it, calls it incorrectly, is corrected by Wally or the director, which Alan confirms, then excuses himself, and comments upon.....
Wally can hardly contain his annoyance half the time..
Listening to them go back and forth is hi-larious

On Fox, Mike Joy is the man, but anytime DW & Mac get jawin', it's time to put on some banjo music

BananaWinds · Post by **BananaWinds** » July 13, 2004 12:52 pm

Lightning Bolt wrote:
BananaWinds wrote:Benny is awesome, he sees stuff happening 1st, everytime & doesn't ooooooooh ahhhhhhhh like other announcers, he just calls it as he sees it.
Sure, once he sees it, calls it incorrectly, is corrected by Wally or the director, which Alan confirms, then excuses himself, and comments upon.....
Wally can hardly contain his annoyance half the time..
Listening to them go back and forth is hi-larious

On Fox, Mike Joy is the man, but anytime DW & Mac get jawin', it's time to put on some banjo music

IYO maybe in the last year he has had a senior moment or 2 but over the last several there have been many times he sees stuff way ahead of everyone else, then a lap later or so there's a wreck, motor lets loose, replay proves him right, etc I'm not talking about the piddly stuff / banter back n fourth with Wally, I suspect that is encouraged..

The best team was Joy, Punch, Jarret & Benny IMEO

ahh, bring back the days when I'd drive the camper into the infield of Talledega when there were no restrictor plates & racin was racin

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » July 13, 2004 1:09 pm

BananaWinds wrote: The best team was Joy, Punch, Jarret & Benny IMEO

ahh, bring back the days when I'd drive the camper into the infield of Talledega when there were no restrictor plates & racin was racin

I'll go with that one!!

Sidew13 · Post by **Sidew13** » July 13, 2004 4:30 pm

Speaking of Alan Bestwick, Does anyony watch Inside Nextel Cup , with Alan, Kenny, Johnny, and Mikey?

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 13, 2004 8:39 pm

BananaWinds wrote:

The best team was Joy, Punch, Jarret & Benny IMEO

ahh, bring back the days when I'd drive the camper into the infield of Talledega when there were no restrictor plates & racin was racin

Gotta agree with you on that team.

And, having once walked through the infield of Talladega after a cup race, (where a Ryder truck, two cases of Busch and as much KFC as you can stomach is considered deluxe weekend accomodations) I give you credit for surviving it.

Sidew13 · Post by **Sidew13** » July 13, 2004 8:52 pm

Dr. Jerry Punch was awesome. And he actually saved Rusty Wallace's life @ Bristol one time.

prrthd1987 · Post by **prrthd1987** » July 13, 2004 9:12 pm

Sidew13 wrote:Speaking of Alan Bestwick, Does anyony watch Inside Nextel Cup , with Alan, Kenny, Johnny, and Mikey?

That show is so funny! Being a NASCAR fan is so much better with more TV coverage during the week!

jollymon345 · Post by **jollymon345** » August 4, 2004 11:14 am

I had to bring this post back up again because I am starting to think that Mike Helton or someone at NASCAR has been reading BN. According to the story NASCAR implemented the rule about sponsorship 2 weeks ago which would put it about the time that we were discussing it here. We must have more power here that we think.

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?id=1851385

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » August 4, 2004 11:15 am

Does anyne else start singing the Dukes of Hazzard song whenever they see the word NASCAR?