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Microwave water boiling - warning

Posted: June 29, 2004 12:35 am
by Ceol na Mara
A friend just sent me an email about water exploding when it is overheated (superheated) in a microwave. It is not urban legend - I also found it here:
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/microwave.html#10

This is what my friend sent:
"A 26-year old man decided to have a cup of coffee. He took a cup of water and put it in the microwave to heat it up (something that he had done numerous times before). I am not sure how long he set the timer for, but he wanted to bring the water to a boil. When the timer shut the oven off, he removed the cup from the oven. As he looked into the cup, henoted that the water was not boiling, but suddenly the water in the cup "blew up" into his face. The cup remained intact until he threw it out of his hand, but all the water had flown out into his face due to the build up of energy. His whole face is blistered and he has 1st and 2nd degree burns to his face which may leave scarring.

He also may have lost partial sight in his left eye. While at the hospital,
the doctor who was attending to him stated that this is a fairly common
occurrence and water (alone) should never be heated in a microwave oven.

If water is heated in this manner, something should be placed in the cup to diffuse the energy such as a wooden stir stick, tea bag, etc., (nothing metal). It is however a much safer choice to boil the water in a tea kettle.

General Electric's Response:

Thanks for contacting us, I will be happy to assist you. The e-mail that you received is correct. Microwave water and other liquids do not always bubble when they reach the boiling point. They can actually get superheated and not bubble at all. The superheated liquid will bubble up out of the cup when it is moved or when something like a spoon or tea bag is put into it.

To prevent this from happening and causing injury, do not heat any liquid
for more than two minutes per cup. After heating, let the cup stand in the
microwave for thirty seconds before moving it or adding anything into it.

Here is what our local science teacher had to say on the matter: "Thanks for the microwave warning. I have seen this happen before. It is caused by a phenomenon known as super heating. It can occur anytime water is heated and will particularly occur if the vessel that the water is heated in is new, or when heating a small amount of water (less than half a cup).

What happens is that the water heats faster than the vapor bubbles can form. If the cup is very new then it is unlikely to have small surface scratches inside it that provide a place for the bubbles to form. As the bubbles cannot form and release some of the heat has built up, the liquid does not boil, and the liquid continues to heat up well past its boiling point.

What then usually happens is that the liquid is bumped or jarred, which is
just enough of a shock to cause the bubbles to rapidly form and expel the hot liquid. The rapid formation of bubbles is also why a carbonated beverage spews when opened after having been shaken.

If you pass this on you could very well save someone from a lot of pain and suffering."

Also a note of my own: I microwave a mug of water for my Mom's coffee. I usually nuke it for 2 minutes, but sometimes I do 2 1/2. When I nuke it for 2 1/2 minutes, when I add the sugar, it's like Alka Seltzer. I thought that was cool! (Idiot that I am.) I'm glad nothing worse happened!

Posted: June 29, 2004 1:09 am
by sailingagain
That's interesting.

Posted: June 29, 2004 1:28 am
by Desdamona
Yeah, that's why you put "boiling chips" (little pieces of a rocklike substance)
into beakers in chemistry lab when you're making a steam bath.

Posted: June 29, 2004 4:26 am
by Ceol na Mara
Desdamona wrote:Yeah, that's why you put "boiling chips" (little pieces of a rocklike substance)
into beakers in chemistry lab when you're making a steam bath.
How do you know this?!?!? :D
I have zero science genes. :-?

Posted: June 29, 2004 5:25 am
by Sidew13
I have had something like this happen to me befor. Boilingwater in a measuring cup, took it out of the microwave, and all of a sudden , boom like ol' faithfull erupting. scared the "poop" out of me :o

Posted: June 29, 2004 11:38 am
by LaTda
awe geez, now I have to try this :roll:

I can see it now, me in full protective garb, wife comes home from work..

"Mike, now what are you doing???" LOL :lol: :lol:

Posted: June 29, 2004 11:49 am
by Coconuts
It's not worth it. Worst case scenario (biggest explosion), it's a great big splash that goes everywhere. Be safe, just go throw a rock in a puddle or flower pot, it looks about the same. It's much more fun to microwave a CD.

Posted: June 29, 2004 12:05 pm
by Desdamona
Ceol na Mara wrote: How do you know this?!?!? :D
I have zero science genes. :-?
I guess I got yours... and a BS in chemistry. :-?
(BTW, it really is BS... I never saw an atom. Have you?)

It's actually not "exploding" water. It takes a surface for the
water vapor bubbles to form on, and if the container is too
smooth and still, the "boiling" doesn't start. Once you bump
the container, the superheated vapor all tries to release at
once. This can be pretty sudden and violent. Don't try this
with your skin in the way unless you want to be parboiled!
It will work on a stovetop just as well, but the cups we put
into microwaves are usually smoother inside than the pots
we cook in...

On a related topic, we've had "superfreezing" occur when we
put bottles of water or soda into the freezer. You take them
out still liquid and shake gently and suddenly the whole
containerful crystalizes. It's really neat to see.

Posted: June 29, 2004 12:15 pm
by citcat
AHA!!! Just as I thought....Des knows all! :lol: Kidding aside, I always put a short straw in the cup/bowl when I boil water in the microwave. I don't ever boil water too long, but you can never be too safe! :o

Posted: June 29, 2004 12:21 pm
by Margarita Will
Desdamona wrote: On a related topic, we've had "superfreezing" occur when we
put bottles of water or soda into the freezer. You take them
out still liquid and shake gently and suddenly the whole
containerful crystalizes. It's really neat to see.
I've experienced "superfreezing", too... Usually it happens to one of my Coronas when I get it REALLY cold! Then I have to eat it with a spoon - sorta like a Beer Slurpee...! (Hmmm... Beer Slurpee... Maybe I've hit on somethin'!)

Posted: June 29, 2004 12:22 pm
by Desdamona
citcat wrote: AHA!!! Just as I thought....Des knows all!
Well... yeah... sorry about that :roll:

Posted: June 29, 2004 2:10 pm
by 12Volt
LaTda wrote:awe geez, now I have to try this :roll:
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this!

Posted: June 29, 2004 2:14 pm
by prrthd1987
Coconuts wrote:It's much more fun to microwave a CD.
OOH!!! I am gonna have to try that now!!! And Peeps too!!!!!!!

Posted: June 29, 2004 3:00 pm
by OceanCityGirl
Another fun thing to do with the micro.
Take a grape, slice it in half lengthwise, but leave it attached at the bottom end with a piece of skin. Lay it flat on a plate, keeping the two pieces and skin attached. Microwave it for around 8 seconds or so. You will see a fireworks show. don't know why. Don't know if it hurts your microwave, but mine is fine though the kids have done this more then a few times. There are pages about this online though nobody knows why it happens.

Posted: June 29, 2004 6:24 pm
by Sidew13
Image
Des, it this you? :lol:

Posted: June 29, 2004 6:34 pm
by Desdamona
Sidew13 wrote:Image
Des, it this you? :lol:
Relax, Joe, I didn't disintegrate anything. The molecular structure of both
citcat and the water remain completely intact... but it requires a nuclear
reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need.

Posted: June 29, 2004 7:32 pm
by OceanCityGirl
do you use your degree for work? I have a daughter going for a degree in bio-chem with a microbiology minor. Her dream job is forensic work for the fbi.

Posted: June 29, 2004 8:15 pm
by Desdamona
OceanCityGirl wrote:do you use your degree for work? I have a daughter going for a degree in bio-chem with a microbiology minor. Her dream job is forensic work for the fbi.
Well, since I got that degree in '72 (I'm OLD!!!)
I worked for the state board of health as an
analyst, for a major chemical corp. as an R&D
chemist, quit for 10 years to raise kids, almost
took a job with the state law enforcement lab
(where I would've ended up working on the Ted
Bundy case :o ), went back to school to get another
BS in pharmacy, stood on my feet for nearly 15
years with people demanding all sorts of things from
me, and quit again to be a full-time loafer and parrothead.
(Now I won't ever have to be BNer of the day!)

I see billboards for FBI agent jobs. Interesting...