Does anybody else IGNORE the pirate warning...

mjcatl2 · Post by **mjcatl2** » July 15, 2004 5:50 pm

It is not illegal to make a copy for yourself of a cd you *own*.

It's called fair use.

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » July 15, 2004 5:57 pm

Which reminds me. What is the difference between "illegal" and "not legal?"

A: "not legal" means it's against the law.
"illegal" is a sick bird.

sorry

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » July 15, 2004 6:13 pm

phjrsaunt wrote:Which reminds me. What is the difference between "illegal" and "not legal?"

A: "not legal" means it's against the law.
"illegal" is a sick bird.

sorry

:D:D:D

AlbatrossFlyer · Post by **AlbatrossFlyer** » July 15, 2004 6:20 pm

wonder if the pirated copies for sale will have the FBI seal printed on their jackets?

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » July 15, 2004 6:28 pm

mikess wrote: First it was records, now everyones burning CDs.

OMG, another Magnum PI fan!

(and you grabbed your sig line from my buddy's web site!

)

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 15, 2004 6:34 pm

mjcatl2 wrote:It is not illegal to make a copy for yourself of a cd you *own*.

It's called fair use.

what MJCATL2 said... you're legally allowed to make back up copies, encode them to your computer and your ipod... whatever. Just don't give them away.

And I doubt any of the labels are complaining about the warning since all of them are members of the RIAA... The RIAA aren't the nazis of the industry, they ARE the industry.

Buffett4ever · Post by **Buffett4ever** » July 15, 2004 6:51 pm

Where did you hear they were hacking into people's computers? All file sharing programs can track the IP address of the downloader. All they did was get the IP address of the downloader who downloaded certain songs and then subponea the internet provider that has the address range reserved. That is far from hacking into someone's PC.

Parrot Monkey wrote:You didn’t ignore the warning. Making personal copies falls under fair use.

Starting in June last year, the RIAA has been getting quite p*** about piracy and is really cracking down. Hacking into people’s computers, what are they thinking? Now they have reworded the “unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws” line and now use a larger point size on the back of CDs so it’s no longer fine print, as well as place an FBI seal on the back to scare everyone. I guess from this point on the bottom portion of the back of CD cases is the RIAA’s property to place these warnings. The RIAA is the nazis of the music world.

Touch O Parrotdise · Post by **Touch O Parrotdise** » July 15, 2004 6:52 pm

i burn all my cds so i don't ruin the original..i also download it so i can play everything i own... i buy my favorites and i file share for artists that put 2 good songs on a cd and try to steal my money for $20.. now thats opening a can of worms

mikess · Post by **mikess** » July 16, 2004 10:13 am

Magnum RULES!!!!! Can't wait til Sept. for the First Season DVDs!!

ZeroDuval · Post by **ZeroDuval** » July 16, 2004 11:09 am

mikess wrote:Magnum RULES!!!!! Can't wait til Sept. for the First Season DVDs!!

Don't get her started!

CaribbnSoul · Post by **CaribbnSoul** » July 16, 2004 11:46 am

You can still use Kazaa easily if you want. Just simply find a program that masks your IP address. It makes it untrackable. I dont advocate it. I'm not going to say its stealing, its just a gray area I dont want to venture in anymore. In college, I was all about Napster and Kazaa, you had to be. Theres no other way a college kid could get music on that budget...haha. Now I just buy the Cd's or get what I want off of iTunes.

Does anyone know if its illegal to download bootleg stuff off of Kazaa? Or things that aren't released on CD? (radio promos, tv specials like VH1 storytellers, etc.)

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 16, 2004 11:54 am

CaribbnSoul wrote:
Does anyone know if its illegal to download bootleg stuff off of Kazaa? Or things that aren't released on CD? (radio promos, tv specials like VH1 storytellers, etc.)

Technically yes because they're still copyrighted materials, but I suspect the RIAA is less interested in those since it's the labels they represent...

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » July 16, 2004 12:13 pm

Key Lime Lee wrote:
CaribbnSoul wrote:
Does anyone know if its illegal to download bootleg stuff off of Kazaa? Or things that aren't released on CD? (radio promos, tv specials like VH1 storytellers, etc.)
Technically yes because they're still copyrighted materials, but I suspect the RIAA is less interested in those since it's the labels they represent...

I often wondered how that applied to out-of-print material. If you cannot purchase it retail, does that change anything?

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 16, 2004 12:20 pm

rednekkPH wrote:
I often wondered how that applied to out-of-print material. If you cannot purchase it retail, does that change anything?

Nope.

I have a whole bunch of new songs that have not been released, but they are copyrighted. As such you can't distribute or copy them even though they're not commercially available.

It's about copyright holders having the right to control their IP.

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 16, 2004 12:25 pm

Frank -

There's actually several artists whose masters are owned by labels and been put out of print. These artists have found a small demand for their work, but not enough demand to convince the labels to rerelease the records. The labels also won't sell the masters to the artists, choosing instead to hold on to the masters for whatever reason...

The result is that even though its known as the artist's album, and the artist could make a decent living off of it, the labels have the copyright and feel it's not worth their while to remanufacture it. So they just sit on it and legally there's nothing the artist can do...

jollymonsings · Post by **jollymonsings** » July 16, 2004 12:30 pm

yeah me too, i have burned a couple of compilations with some of those songs already also. but its not like i am selling them. i mean, come on geez. lol

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 16, 2004 12:31 pm

You're okay to burn them for yourself... that's under FAIR USE.

You just can't hand them out...

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » July 16, 2004 12:37 pm

Thanks for the clarification, Lee!

PA PAR8 HED · Post by **PA PAR8 HED** » July 16, 2004 12:38 pm

On a similar vein...

If I download a mix of songs off of itunes, or rhapsody etc. and pay for each one, can I turn around and sell that custom mix to someone else? And can I sell it at a profit?

Seems to me I could.

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » July 16, 2004 12:51 pm

PA PAR8 HED wrote:On a similar vein...

If I download a mix of songs off of itunes, or rhapsody etc. and pay for each one, can I turn around and sell that custom mix to someone else? And can I sell it at a profit?

Seems to me I could.

Not by any stretch of the imagination.

You're purchasing a single-copy of each song for personal use, not licensing the songs for distrubution. It makes no difference if it's one song or 100 by different artists - you can't distribute (or re-distribute) the copyrighted material without the permission of the copyright holder.

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Does anybody else IGNORE the pirate warning...

Where did you hear this???