Anyone seen or going to see Hilary Duff in Concert?

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 12:06 pm

12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert. Want me to tell ya how I really feel

It's another reason for YOU not to have children.

Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » July 27, 2004 12:38 pm

CaptainP wrote:M14-year old niece won a radio-station contest. Her prize was an autographed CD from Hilary Duff, and a trip to LA to see Hilary's debut concert. Included was the chance to meet and have lunch with Hilary.

Sounds like a wonderful thing for a kid, right?

Wrong.

My wedding was a radio promotion, and I came to the conclusion that most promotions don't live up to all of the hoopla. We were promised the world, but a lot of stuff fell through. It was still fun, and it was free, and we've been married 13 years now, so it was more than worth it!

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » July 27, 2004 12:40 pm

I guess it's true, you get what you pay for.

Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » July 27, 2004 12:45 pm

12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert.

When you don't have kids, it may seem lame and overpriced. But whether it's Hilary Duff or the Wiggles, when you see your keets' eyes light up and they dance and sing at the top of their lungs for a couple hours, there's no place you'd rather be!

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 12:52 pm

Tiki Bar wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert.
When you don't have kids, it may seem lame and overpriced. But whether it's Hilary Duff or the Wiggles, when you see your keets' eyes light up and they dance and sing at the top of their lungs for a couple hours, there's no place you'd rather be!

Thank you Joann. I couldn't put it any more nicely.

lovin_jimmy · Post by **lovin_jimmy** » July 27, 2004 12:55 pm

well said

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » July 27, 2004 12:57 pm

buffettbride wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert. Want me to tell ya how I really feel
It's another reason for YOU not to have children.

Funny how I didn't say YOU shouldn't nor anybody should. It was just for ME.

Tiki Bar wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert.
When you don't have kids, it may seem lame and overpriced. But whether it's Hilary Duff or the Wiggles, when you see your keets' eyes light up and they dance and sing at the top of their lungs for a couple hours, there's no place you'd rather be!

I don't disagree but for our money I am not going to take them that we just can not support. To us there would be a better place to spend the money on them to get that reaction and understand this is our opinion for my children IF we ever decided to have them. And yes I am speaking for my wife because we have talked about these types of issues. Because if we can't agree on how to raise a child we surely don't want to try.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » July 27, 2004 1:14 pm

I used to say I didn't like little children but I've come to the conclusion that it's really the parents I don't like. Case in point. I leave home before 7:00 AM to go to the train station. Last night it was after 7:30 before I left the office to go home. A woman got on the train with 3 screaming little brats and made no attempt to discipline them. When I've been in the office for over 11 hours I don't need to listen to that crap on the way home. You wanted children, you take care of them. (Disclaimer: I'm not referring to anyone here when I say "you".)

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 1:17 pm

12vmanRick wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert. Want me to tell ya how I really feel
It's another reason for YOU not to have children.
Funny how I didn't say YOU shouldn't nor anybody should. It was just for ME.

Tiki Bar wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:This is just another reason to not have children. Having to take them to some lame ass, no talent, pop singer's ridiculously overpriced, lip synched concert.
When you don't have kids, it may seem lame and overpriced. But whether it's Hilary Duff or the Wiggles, when you see your keets' eyes light up and they dance and sing at the top of their lungs for a couple hours, there's no place you'd rather be!
I don't disagree but for our money I am not going to take them that we just can not support. To us there would be a better place to spend the money on them to get that reaction and understand this is our opinion for my children IF we ever decided to have them. And yes I am speaking for my wife because we have talked about these types of issues. Because if we can't agree on how to raise a child we surely don't want to try.

...I can't figure out how to do the nifty quote thing Rick just did so I'm just doing this instead....

I wouldn't have made the YOU comment had I known you were only speaking of yourself and not speaking generally.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 1:18 pm

LIPH wrote:I used to say I didn't like little children but I've come to the conclusion that it's really the parents I don't like. Case in point. I leave home before 7:00 AM to go to the train station. Last night it was after 7:30 before I left the office to go home. A woman got on the train with 3 screaming little brats and made no attempt to discipline them. When I've been in the office for over 11 hours I don't need to listen to that crap on the way home. You wanted children, you take care of them. (Disclaimer: I'm not referring to anyone here when I say "you".)

Parents are WAY more the problem than the kids are. They have to learn it (or lack of learning) somewhere.

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » July 27, 2004 1:19 pm

buffettbride wrote: I wouldn't have made the YOU comment had I known you were only speaking of yourself and not speaking generally.

I wasn't offended but did want to clarify. I figure if one person misread, maybe others did but according to Jimmy it's YOUR fault (woman to blame) anyway

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » July 27, 2004 1:20 pm

LIPH wrote:I used to say I didn't like little children but I've come to the conclusion that it's really the parents I don't like. Case in point. I leave home before 7:00 AM to go to the train station. Last night it was after 7:30 before I left the office to go home. A woman got on the train with 3 screaming little brats and made no attempt to discipline them. When I've been in the office for over 11 hours I don't need to listen to that crap on the way home. You wanted children, you take care of them. (Disclaimer: I'm not referring to anyone here when I say "you".)

Funny disclaimer and I totally agree with your analogy. I have been around children that were like "oh my god that child was wonderful" and not because that child was being "seen and not heard" but because they were courteous, minded the parent and entertained themselves.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 1:21 pm

12vmanRick wrote:
buffettbride wrote: I wouldn't have made the YOU comment had I known you were only speaking of yourself and not speaking generally.
I wasn't offended but did want to clarify. I figure if one person misread, maybe others did but according to Jimmy it's YOUR fault (woman to blame) anyway

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » July 27, 2004 1:28 pm

buffettbride wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:
buffettbride wrote: I wouldn't have made the YOU comment had I known you were only speaking of yourself and not speaking generally.
I wasn't offended but did want to clarify. I figure if one person misread, maybe others did but according to Jimmy it's YOUR fault (woman to blame) anyway

hey I had to throw some humor in there to make sure people understood that we were trying to keep this lighthearted. Also, I capitolized to make SURE there were no errurs <-- lol

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 1:34 pm

12vmanRick wrote:
LIPH wrote:I used to say I didn't like little children but I've come to the conclusion that it's really the parents I don't like. Case in point. I leave home before 7:00 AM to go to the train station. Last night it was after 7:30 before I left the office to go home. A woman got on the train with 3 screaming little brats and made no attempt to discipline them. When I've been in the office for over 11 hours I don't need to listen to that crap on the way home. You wanted children, you take care of them. (Disclaimer: I'm not referring to anyone here when I say "you".)
Funny disclaimer and I totally agree with your analogy. I have been around children that were like "oh my god that child was wonderful" and not because that child was being "seen and not heard" but because they were courteous, minded the parent and entertained themselves.

It's really all about setting expections about what is acceptable behavior, what is unacceptable behavior, when and where certain behavior is appropriate, consistency, and practicing what you preach. When someone (speaking generally) is a parent...there is a little set (or multiple sets) of eyes and see and copy anything and everything you (speaking generally) do. And kiddos won't hesitate for 2 seconds to call you out on something either.

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » July 27, 2004 1:37 pm

buffettbride wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:
LIPH wrote:I used to say I didn't like little children but I've come to the conclusion that it's really the parents I don't like. Case in point. I leave home before 7:00 AM to go to the train station. Last night it was after 7:30 before I left the office to go home. A woman got on the train with 3 screaming little brats and made no attempt to discipline them. When I've been in the office for over 11 hours I don't need to listen to that crap on the way home. You wanted children, you take care of them. (Disclaimer: I'm not referring to anyone here when I say "you".)
Funny disclaimer and I totally agree with your analogy. I have been around children that were like "oh my god that child was wonderful" and not because that child was being "seen and not heard" but because they were courteous, minded the parent and entertained themselves.
It's really all about setting expections about what is acceptable behavior, what is unacceptable behavior, when and where certain behavior is appropriate, consistency, and practicing what you preach. When someone (speaking generally) is a parent...there is a little set (or multiple sets) of eyes and see and copy anything and everything you (speaking generally) do. And kiddos won't hesitate for 2 seconds to call you out on something either.

I have been around children and do understand that. My mom around my nephew is living proof he will push it as far as he can! I just don't get the grandparents thing. My parents used to try with my sister and myself and now it's this standard answer "he is just a child" um.. yea but he burned down the freakin house.. lol.. not litterally but sometimes I wonder if she would say that if he did.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 27, 2004 1:44 pm

12vmanRick wrote:I have been around children and do understand that. My mom around my nephew is living proof he will push it as far as he can! I just don't get the grandparents thing. My parents used to try with my sister and myself and now it's this standard answer "he is just a child" um.. yea but he burned down the freakin house.. lol.. not litterally but sometimes I wonder if she would say that if he did.

Ahhh. The grandparent issue. Hopefully I'll figure out that one eventually. The "he/she is just a kid..." excuse drives me nuts.

Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » July 27, 2004 1:45 pm

12vmanRick wrote:To us there would be a better place to spend the money on them to get that reaction

I know from previous threads it's not to see Buffett... out of curiousity can you think of entertainment you do find worthy, should the situation arise? And also, out of curiousity, are you Uncle Rick? In other words, do you have nieces and nephews?

And if it reads differently than intended, I'm not being argumentative. I'm just wondering via friendly conversation. I don't remember my mindset before kids, they've brainwashed me!

As for LIPH and the screamin mimi's, I do my best to prevent such outbursts, but some days they can just be little buggers, and you wear out trying to contain them. I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong that keeps them from being the perfect angel that I was!

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » July 27, 2004 1:47 pm

Since I run a restaurant, I agree with almost everything that was said here....kids drive me crazy, but I know it is usually the lack of parenting involved. It seems less and less effort is put into raising a child these days.

People want to have children, but they don't want to raise them. They think of them as a prize or a toy, one that they get bored with and selfishly turn their attention back to themselves. The kids become an inconvenience.

Whenever Peggy and I get the urge to have children, we just borrow a niece or nephew for a day. The urge goes away QUICKLY.

Coconuts · Post by **Coconuts** » July 27, 2004 1:59 pm

My parents and I have the same attitude with my nieces- they're not my kids, I don't care how they behave, it's not my job to tell them no.

I should never, ever have kids though- aside from the father probably not surviving the pregnancy, I started buying the girls makeup, markers and really messy things when they were 3. And payback's a b****.

And I managed to spoil a betta- he didn't like his flake food, so I picked the brine shrimp bits out of the food, then tried 2 other foods before we found one he liked. That doesn't bode well for how I'll be able to tell my own child no.