LaTda wrote:you don't understand, the world doesn't care about the Presidents sexlife, they care about merit, Clinton was respected, Bush isn't.
The world may not care about Bill's sex life, but a lot a Americans did. Some people still think that marriage vows mean something and to break those vows in the confines of the Oval Office shows a distinct lack of character. My favorite definition of character is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
Bill got his "respect" from other countries by kissing their butts and putting aspects of our sovereignty in danger. Bush thinks of the U.S. first. That's what I want in a president.
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LaTda wrote:you don't understand, the world doesn't care about the Presidents sexlife, they care about merit, Clinton was respected, Bush isn't.
The world may not care about Bill's sex life, but a lot a Americans did. Some people still think that marriage vows mean something and to break those vows in the confines of the Oval Office shows a distinct lack of character. My favorite definition of character is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
Bill got his "respect" from other countries by kissing their butts and putting aspects of our sovereignty in danger. Bush thinks of the U.S. first. That's what I want in a president.
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
And we had so much international goodwill after 9/11 that was completely squandered on Iraq.
Putting th US first is what makes other people in other countries hate us, which boils and boils and boils until a Bin Laden is born. A multinational view makes allies.
I won't even start in about the Patriot Act.
My ship she has a rudder, but I don’t know where to steer
Coconuts wrote:
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
ahhh sure why not ? all the other politicians are that bad too. Ever seen that email about the amount of felons, dui's, bad checks, tax evators, drug convitions in the Senate that hold that office ? it boggles the mind. Besides, you will never live long enough to have someone in ANY political office that truly represents "the people" so don't be fooled that Kerry will. He is richer than all of us on this board combined. Once again, not a BUSH supporter - I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO VOTE FOR.
When they run you out of town make it look like you are leading the parade.
Coconuts wrote:
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
ahhh sure why not ? all the other politicians are that bad too. Ever seen that email about the amount of felons, dui's, bad checks, tax evators, drug convitions in the Senate that hold that office ? it boggles the mind. Besides, you will never live long enough to have someone in ANY political office that truly represents "the people" so don't be fooled that Kerry will. He is richer than all of us on this board combined. Once again, not a BUSH supporter - I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO VOTE FOR.
I'm not so much a Kerry supporter as I am anti-Bush. But you are right about not having someone in office that represents the people.
My ship she has a rudder, but I don’t know where to steer
Maybe the problem is the people who enacted the Patriot Act, not the Act itself. It was passed by a vote of 98-1 in the Senate and 357-66 in the House. And if that many of them voted for it without really knowing what the consequences were then I guess Shane is right. We are idiots for putting these yo-yos in office in the first place.
LaTda wrote:you don't understand, the world doesn't care about the Presidents sexlife, they care about merit, Clinton was respected, Bush isn't.
The world may not care about Bill's sex life, but a lot a Americans did. Some people still think that marriage vows mean something and to break those vows in the confines of the Oval Office shows a distinct lack of character. My favorite definition of character is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
Bill got his "respect" from other countries by kissing their butts and putting aspects of our sovereignty in danger. Bush thinks of the U.S. first. That's what I want in a president.
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
And we had so much international goodwill after 9/11 that was completely squandered on Iraq.
Putting th US first is what makes other people in other countries hate us, which boils and boils and boils until a Bin Laden is born. A multinational view makes allies.
I won't even start in about the Patriot Act.
But come on---he has to be a Hero----he does have 3 yes 3 Purple Hearts, 2 of in which are all BS
Coconuts wrote:
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
ahhh sure why not ? all the other politicians are that bad too. Ever seen that email about the amount of felons, dui's, bad checks, tax evators, drug convitions in the Senate that hold that office ? it boggles the mind. Besides, you will never live long enough to have someone in ANY political office that truly represents "the people" so don't be fooled that Kerry will. He is richer than all of us on this board combined. Once again, not a BUSH supporter - I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO VOTE FOR.
I'm not so much a Kerry supporter as I am anti-Bush. But you are right about not having someone in office that represents the people.
Trust me I feel your pain. I was very disappointed in Bush's first 9 months in office before 9/11. He was a deadbeat pres until he became a "War Pres". Not that it's saying so much. In his first 9 mos he spent more time partying on his ranch than worrying about our failing/failed economy because of the ridiculous way the election turned out.
And most people blame Bush or the Supreme Court but do not realize the Electorial College in Florida did not have to go with the popular vote and could have submitted their vote and it would have been official and ended the issue. ANYWAY.. I think we are screwed no matter who is there.
When they run you out of town make it look like you are leading the parade.
LaTda wrote:you don't understand, the world doesn't care about the Presidents sexlife, they care about merit, Clinton was respected, Bush isn't.
The world may not care about Bill's sex life, but a lot a Americans did. Some people still think that marriage vows mean something and to break those vows in the confines of the Oval Office shows a distinct lack of character. My favorite definition of character is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
Bill got his "respect" from other countries by kissing their butts and putting aspects of our sovereignty in danger. Bush thinks of the U.S. first. That's what I want in a president.
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
And we had so much international goodwill after 9/11 that was completely squandered on Iraq.
Putting th US first is what makes other people in other countries hate us, which boils and boils and boils until a Bin Laden is born. A multinational view makes allies.
I won't even start in about the Patriot Act.
Am I the only one who reads this as
I hate Bush This is what they told us at the rallyCNN is balanced journalismI hate all things Republican I saw it on TV So it must be trueI hate BushI watched to Convention last night, and I am fired up
12vmanRick wrote:Trust me I feel your pain. I was very disappointed in Bush's first 9 months in office before 9/11. He was a deadbeat pres until he became a "War Pres". Not that it's saying so much. In his first 9 mos he spent more time partying on his ranch than worrying about our failing/failed economy because of the ridiculous way the election turned out.
And most people blame Bush or the Supreme Court but do not realize the Electorial College in Florida did not have to go with the popular vote and could have submitted their vote and it would have been official and ended the issue. ANYWAY.. I think we are screwed no matter who is there.
You're right about being screwed either way.
Juicyfruit's husband summed it up really well in Vegas (speaking of, LIPH, did you remember to wish her a happy b-day yesterday?)- If you leave either side in charge for too long they'll screw things up.
My ship she has a rudder, but I don’t know where to steer
LaTda wrote:you don't understand, the world doesn't care about the Presidents sexlife, they care about merit, Clinton was respected, Bush isn't.
The world may not care about Bill's sex life, but a lot a Americans did. Some people still think that marriage vows mean something and to break those vows in the confines of the Oval Office shows a distinct lack of character. My favorite definition of character is doing the right thing, even when nobody is looking.
Bill got his "respect" from other countries by kissing their butts and putting aspects of our sovereignty in danger. Bush thinks of the U.S. first. That's what I want in a president.
So it's better to have a former drunken cokehead frat boy C student in the White House? He wouldn't pass our company's background check, so why should we hire him to be the leader of the free world?
And we had so much international goodwill after 9/11 that was completely squandered on Iraq.
Putting th US first is what makes other people in other countries hate us, which boils and boils and boils until a Bin Laden is born. A multinational view makes allies.
I won't even start in about the Patriot Act.
I would offer that the man you see in th White House is a very different person than the drunken frat boy. If that's all you know about Bush's life you know very little.
"international goodwill" blows like the wind. It comes. It goes. A lot of that "goodwill" was based on the reaction that it was about time something like this happened to us.
The hatred of Bin Laden and his ilk is rooted in religious fervor that goes back far beyond our lifetimes. They see us as the devil because we don't have their beliefs. Combine that with our support of their other favorite hatred, Israel.
Grand Exalted Bubba of the Order of the Sleepless Knights
SuperTrooper wrote:I would offer that the man you see in th White House is a very different person than the drunken frat boy. If that's all you know about Bush's life you know very little.
"international goodwill" blows like the wind. It comes. It goes. A lot of that "goodwill" was based on the reaction that it was about time something like this happened to us.
The hatred of Bin Laden and his ilk is rooted in religious fervor that goes back far beyond our lifetimes. They see us as the devil because we don't have their beliefs. Combine that with our support of their other favorite hatred, Israel.
You're right, he is much different now- but it doesn't change his past.
And international goodwill does blow- but if the wind's blowing in your direction, then it's not a good time to pi$$ in it.
And I'm thinking what you're saying about the Bin Ladens of the world, I guess I just didn't express it well.
My ship she has a rudder, but I don’t know where to steer
longlinergirl wrote:I don't believe that it was Clinton's sex life we cared so much about , but rather the fact that he bold faced lied to everyone...
We aren't talking about we the American people, read further back. We are talking about how the rest of the world see's the US & their respect or lack of under different administrations... btw
