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Posted: August 12, 2004 11:37 am
by rednekkPH
Coconuts wrote:Ok, this is my interpretation of natural law:
Bob owns a pot.
George steals the pot, therefore George owns a pot now.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head so that he can leave with the pot.
George steals Bob's pot, and hits him in the head too.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head and kills him.
George's family steals the pot, and kills Bob.
Bob's family kills another member of George's family- and on and on and on.
It doesn't work once you add people to it.
Was it a nice pot?
Posted: August 12, 2004 11:40 am
by Key Lime Lee
rednekkPH wrote:
Was it a nice pot?
Must have been, if everyone wanted it.
Posted: August 12, 2004 11:44 am
by ragtopW
rednekkPH wrote:Coconuts wrote:Ok, this is my interpretation of natural law:
Bob owns a pot.
George steals the pot, therefore George owns a pot now.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head so that he can leave with the pot.
George steals Bob's pot, and hits him in the head too.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head and kills him.
George's family steals the pot, and kills Bob.
Bob's family kills another member of George's family- and on and on and on.
It doesn't work once you add people to it.
Was it a nice pot?
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
Posted: August 12, 2004 11:46 am
by tommcat327
ragtopW wrote:
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
THATS HOW I SEE IT.IT ENDS WHEN ONE PERSON IS BIGGER AND STRONGER.SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST.
Posted: August 12, 2004 11:53 am
by CaptainP
ragtopW wrote:rednekkPH wrote:Coconuts wrote:Ok, this is my interpretation of natural law:
Bob owns a pot.
George steals the pot, therefore George owns a pot now.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head so that he can leave with the pot.
George steals Bob's pot, and hits him in the head too.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head and kills him.
George's family steals the pot, and kills Bob.
Bob's family kills another member of George's family- and on and on and on.
It doesn't work once you add people to it.
Was it a nice pot?
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
I thought it was Bob's pot?
Posted: August 12, 2004 11:55 am
by rednekkPH
CaptainP wrote:ragtopW wrote:rednekkPH wrote:Coconuts wrote:Ok, this is my interpretation of natural law:
Bob owns a pot.
George steals the pot, therefore George owns a pot now.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head so that he can leave with the pot.
George steals Bob's pot, and hits him in the head too.
Bob steals George's pot, and hits him in the head and kills him.
George's family steals the pot, and kills Bob.
Bob's family kills another member of George's family- and on and on and on.
It doesn't work once you add people to it.
Was it a nice pot?
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
I thought it was Bob's pot?
It's Bob's fault - if he woulda just shared his pot, this whole mess could have been avoided. However, the person with the twinkies might have been in trouble.
Posted: August 12, 2004 11:58 am
by SuperTrooper
tommcat327 wrote:ragtopW wrote:
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
THATS HOW I SEE IT.IT ENDS WHEN ONE PERSON IS BIGGER AND STRONGER.SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST.
Until you add guns to the equation. Wasn't the Colt called "The Great Equalizer"?
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:00 pm
by Key Lime Lee
tommcat327 wrote:ragtopW wrote:
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
THATS HOW I SEE IT.IT ENDS WHEN ONE PERSON IS BIGGER AND STRONGER.SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST.
Would make it a little tough to relax at night...
So you'd advocate the elimination of all laws? Laws are only our answer to the problem of proecting people from natural law.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:01 pm
by CaptainP
Key Lime Lee wrote:tommcat327 wrote:ragtopW wrote:
lets shorten this stupid person steals Waynes anything
Wayne offs person and tells family if they want some come get it
game over works for me
THATS HOW I SEE IT.IT ENDS WHEN ONE PERSON IS BIGGER AND STRONGER.SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST.
Would make it a little tough to relax at night...
So you'd advocate the elimination of all laws? Laws are only our answer to the problem of proecting people from natural law.
SHouldn't natural law overrule all other laws?
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:09 pm
by Key Lime Lee
CaptainP wrote:
SHouldn't natural law overrule all other laws?
The founding fathers subscribed to the theory that laws should protect us from natural law.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:13 pm
by ragtopW
Key Lime Lee wrote:CaptainP wrote:
SHouldn't natural law overrule all other laws?
The founding fathers subscribed to the theory that laws should protect us from natural law.
Lee you are right but what has been "ruled" on from the courts sometimes doesn't resemble the FFs ideas great as they are.
and I'm kidding..mostly a good beating would do for theft
but you hurt one of my family and the best thing to do would
be to run to the cops. and confess
and that did not work last time.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:15 pm
by Key Lime Lee
ragtopW wrote:
and that did not work last time.
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Posted: August 12, 2004 12:17 pm
by SuperTrooper
ragtopW wrote:Key Lime Lee wrote:CaptainP wrote:
SHouldn't natural law overrule all other laws?
The founding fathers subscribed to the theory that laws should protect us from natural law.
Lee you are right but what has been "ruled" on from the courts sometimes doesn't resemble the FFs ideas great as they are.
and I'm kidding..mostly a good beating would do for theft
but you hurt one of my family and the best thing to do would
be to run to the cops. and confess
and that did not work last time.
This system works up to the point where you make a mistake in identifying the perpetrator. Protecting the innocent is the PRIMARY job of the court system, not convicting the guilty.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:19 pm
by ragtopW
SuperTrooper wrote:ragtopW wrote:Key Lime Lee wrote:CaptainP wrote:
SHouldn't natural law overrule all other laws?
The founding fathers subscribed to the theory that laws should protect us from natural law.
Lee you are right but what has been "ruled" on from the courts sometimes doesn't resemble the FFs ideas great as they are.
and I'm kidding..mostly a good beating would do for theft
but you hurt one of my family and the best thing to do would
be to run to the cops. and confess
and that did not work last time.
This system works up to the point where you make a mistake in identifying the perpetrator. Protecting the innocent is the PRIMARY job of the court system, not convicting the guilty.
Again I'm talking dead bang guilt here ,if there is a question
fine. Dick Tracy can solve the crime.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:30 pm
by MojosMama
a1aara wrote:Money controls our courts and Justice System. Look at our president. Wasn't Bush Jr. arrested at least once for DUI? Some claim he has been arrested for cocaine possesion. Either way, Daddys money and politcal power made all the charges go away. Bush is just one example. Big money gets scoundrels freedom everyday.
You are kidding, right? I don't think murder convictions are "bought off" in the same manner as misdemeanors. Didn't that Michael Skakel assclown get convicted recently? And he was a Kennedy.....I'm not saying I agree with our court system, but I don't think your example has anything to do with what's being discussed here.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:33 pm
by rednekkPH
MojosMama wrote:a1aara wrote:Money controls our courts and Justice System. Look at our president. Wasn't Bush Jr. arrested at least once for DUI? Some claim he has been arrested for cocaine possesion. Either way, Daddys money and politcal power made all the charges go away. Bush is just one example. Big money gets scoundrels freedom everyday.
You are kidding, right? I don't think murder convictions are "bought off" in the same manner as misdemeanors. Didn't that Michael Skakel assclown get convicted recently? And he was a Kennedy.....I'm not saying I agree with our court system, but I don't think your example has anything to do with what's being discussed here.
OJ
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:34 pm
by LIPH
rednekkPH wrote:MojosMama wrote:a1aara wrote:Money controls our courts and Justice System. Look at our president. Wasn't Bush Jr. arrested at least once for DUI? Some claim he has been arrested for cocaine possesion. Either way, Daddys money and politcal power made all the charges go away. Bush is just one example. Big money gets scoundrels freedom everyday.
You are kidding, right? I don't think
murder convictions are "bought off" in the same manner as misdemeanors. Didn't that Michael Skakel assclown get convicted recently? And he was a Kennedy.....I'm not saying I agree with our court system, but I don't think your example has anything to do with what's being discussed here.
OJ
He wasn't convicted.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:34 pm
by rednekkPH
LIPH wrote:rednekkPH wrote:MojosMama wrote:a1aara wrote:Money controls our courts and Justice System. Look at our president. Wasn't Bush Jr. arrested at least once for DUI? Some claim he has been arrested for cocaine possesion. Either way, Daddys money and politcal power made all the charges go away. Bush is just one example. Big money gets scoundrels freedom everyday.
You are kidding, right? I don't think
murder convictions are "bought off" in the same manner as misdemeanors. Didn't that Michael Skakel assclown get convicted recently? And he was a Kennedy.....I'm not saying I agree with our court system, but I don't think your example has anything to do with what's being discussed here.
OJ
He wasn't convicted.
William Janklow
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:39 pm
by Key Lime Lee
No, murder convictions aren't bought off, but it's widely accepted that those with the $$ are more likely to get fair representation. If you can afford the good lawyers, you're chances of getting a fair trial are better.
There is also a huge disparity the way certain crimes are prosecuted and punished depending on your social class. One only has to look at the difference in which cocaine versus crack users are punished.
Posted: August 12, 2004 12:39 pm
by ragtopW
rednekkPH wrote:LIPH wrote:rednekkPH wrote:MojosMama wrote:a1aara wrote:Money controls our courts and Justice System. Look at our president. Wasn't Bush Jr. arrested at least once for DUI? Some claim he has been arrested for cocaine possesion. Either way, Daddys money and politcal power made all the charges go away. Bush is just one example. Big money gets scoundrels freedom everyday.
You are kidding, right? I don't think
murder convictions are "bought off" in the same manner as misdemeanors. Didn't that Michael Skakel assclown get convicted recently? And he was a Kennedy.....I'm not saying I agree with our court system, but I don't think your example has anything to do with what's being discussed here.
OJ
He wasn't convicted.
William Janklow[/quote
Ted Kennedy