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Posted: September 2, 2004 9:41 pm
by mrmiata
Jahfin wrote:I never really noticed much jazz influence on the Police
Ever pay attention to Stu Copeland's percussion? Sure, there's a reggae vibe, but the jazz vibe is there, as well as a touch of ska at times.

Posted: September 2, 2004 9:41 pm
by ragtopW
Key Lime Lee wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
I never really noticed much jazz influence on the Police, what I did hear was reggae.
Yeah, a lot of the rhythm was reggae, the tempo punk but the chords and chord structure and phrasing of everything from Stewart's drums to sting's bass lines are hardcore jazz. All three of those guys were jazz cats before the Police.

The story going around was that Henry knew he was out of the Police when Andy started introducing some crazy ass diminished 12th chord or something into the mix.
I had never heard the Jazz either but some of "Ghost In The Machine"
does have a smooth vibe to it.

Maybe some Jeff Lorber??

Posted: September 2, 2004 9:46 pm
by Key Lime Lee
Smooth jazz is not the only jazz there is... jazz is much broader than that.

Posted: September 2, 2004 10:20 pm
by RhumChum
sailingagain wrote:I think he is way off, but it made for an amusing read. :lol:
wSAs

Posted: September 2, 2004 10:22 pm
by ragtopW
Key Lime Lee wrote:Smooth jazz is not the only jazz there is... jazz is much broader than that.
Not much of a Jazz listener I was just thinking the Mood/keyboard
???? on every little thing she does is magic..
and I do like Shawn Colvins take on that song. No eletronic
just a three piece combo 8)

Posted: September 2, 2004 10:28 pm
by Key Lime Lee
Shawn Colvin's version is awesome.

And I'm not a huge jazz fan, but after the first time I tried to play a "simple" police song I re-examined the music because it was pretty clear it wasn't rock and roll. :)

Posted: September 2, 2004 11:19 pm
by ragtopW
Key Lime Lee wrote:Shawn Colvin's version is awesome.

And I'm not a huge jazz fan, but after the first time I tried to play a "simple" police song I re-examined the music because it was pretty clear it wasn't rock and roll. :)
and I kinda thought about the way I said the earlier post
what I meant was the smoothness of jazz in transition in tempo
not the genre of smooth jazz

and I'm NOT a player of music so I probably hear things in a
diffrent way.

Posted: September 3, 2004 10:07 am
by Tiki Bar
Jahfin wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote::roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Apparently my sense of humor is on the other end of the spectrum than this person's. I like smiles and laughs with my humor.
Maybe you missed the mention of Melissa Etheridge as one of the men. For so-called "parrotheads" I must say some of you have a sense of humor that's in need of repair.
IF you are implying me, I don't think my sense of humor is in need of repair at all... like I said, there are all types of humor, and I've never been a big fan of "comedians" whose "schtick" is insulting people, including calling Melissa a man. :roll: In my mind, insults are more hurtful than humor. I mostly prefer the laughs that aren't at the expense of others.

I admittedly may also be askewed this week... I'm either suffering post-parrot-party depression or PMS... I'm in a bit of a funk.

Posted: September 3, 2004 10:18 am
by SuperTrooper
If it was supposed to be funny then a lot of people missed it. Taken as it reads the author seems to have a major stick up his butt.

Following his logic, how did he manage to leave BONO off his list? No bigger sell-outs than U2.

Posted: September 3, 2004 10:53 am
by Jahfin
Key Lime Lee wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
I never really noticed much jazz influence on the Police, what I did hear was reggae.
Yeah, a lot of the rhythm was reggae, the tempo punk but the chords and chord structure and phrasing of everything from Stewart's drums to sting's bass lines are hardcore jazz. All three of those guys were jazz cats before the Police.

The story going around was that Henry knew he was out of the Police when Andy started introducing some crazy ass diminished 12th chord or something into the mix.
I'm just saying the predominate influence I came away with after first hearing the Police was reggae. Jazz was much more noticable in Sting's solo stuff than I ever heard in the Police.

Not trying to be a smartass here, but who's Henry?

Posted: September 3, 2004 10:56 am
by Jahfin
Tiki Bar wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote::roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Apparently my sense of humor is on the other end of the spectrum than this person's. I like smiles and laughs with my humor.
Maybe you missed the mention of Melissa Etheridge as one of the men. For so-called "parrotheads" I must say some of you have a sense of humor that's in need of repair.
IF you are implying me, I don't think my sense of humor is in need of repair at all... like I said, there are all types of humor, and I've never been a big fan of "comedians" whose "schtick" is insulting people, including calling Melissa a man. :roll: In my mind, insults are more hurtful than humor. I mostly prefer the laughs that aren't at the expense of others.

I admittedly may also be askewed this week... I'm either suffering post-parrot-party depression or PMS... I'm in a bit of a funk.
I see where you're coming from and in that respect I can understand how that article could be percieved as spiteful because it is but I think there's also a grain of truth along with a sense of humor (however mean-spirited) running through it.

Posted: September 3, 2004 1:14 pm
by Key Lime Lee
Jahfin wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
I never really noticed much jazz influence on the Police, what I did hear was reggae.
Yeah, a lot of the rhythm was reggae, the tempo punk but the chords and chord structure and phrasing of everything from Stewart's drums to sting's bass lines are hardcore jazz. All three of those guys were jazz cats before the Police.

The story going around was that Henry knew he was out of the Police when Andy started introducing some crazy ass diminished 12th chord or something into the mix.
I'm just saying the predominate influence I came away with after first hearing the Police was reggae. Jazz was much more noticable in Sting's solo stuff than I ever heard in the Police.

Not trying to be a smartass here, but who's Henry?
Henry Padovani was the Police's first guitar player - a real punk player. Sting then found Andy Summers and brought him in to make the fourth but it was pretty clear that Henry couldn't hang - Stewart, Andy and Sting were much more schooled musicians with a similar background in experimental jazz and Henry ended up quitting.

Posted: September 3, 2004 1:49 pm
by RinglingRingling
CaptainP wrote:One man's opinion. Although, I'd love to see who he DOES like, since he included pretty much everyone in the history of rock here.
Yep, noticed Buffett, Seger, and Mellencamp on his "hated" list. Although, I have to agree with him on McCartney and Clapton....

No, I guess I need to go out and buy me a humour rehab.

Posted: September 3, 2004 1:50 pm
by par8hed
Jimmy's playing the Pensecola Fairgrounds? Cool. I can't wait till tickets go on sale.

Posted: September 4, 2004 7:16 pm
by Captain Joe
This guy got paid to write that? I'm working to hard for a living.