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You can save yourself a lot of typing by just telling folks you're an isolationist.tommcat327 wrote:AND PLENTY OF U.S. SOLDIERS HAVE DIED TO STOP IT,I DONT HOWEVER SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING FOR US.THEY WONT EVEN SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE ARE THERE TO HELP THEM.SO I SAY THIS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED
I meant anybody - American citizens or 3rd world refugees. All it takes is an influx of population to turn anywhere into a cesspool like NYC.Jahfin wrote:So by using the word "refugees" that implies they are undesireable? As someone already mentioned, this country was founded by refugees. I heard Alaska had plenty of room too.rednekkPH wrote:Oh great, go and f*ck up one of the few truly pristine states we have left.Jahfin wrote:I heard Montana had plenty of room for 'em.
I DIDNT KNOW I FIT INTO A CATEGORY.I JUST DONT LIKE HELPING OUT FOREIGNERS(OR ANYONE) WHO WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING IN RETURN.Key Lime Lee wrote:You can save yourself a lot of typing by just telling folks you're an isolationist.tommcat327 wrote:AND PLENTY OF U.S. SOLDIERS HAVE DIED TO STOP IT,I DONT HOWEVER SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING FOR US.THEY WONT EVEN SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE ARE THERE TO HELP THEM.SO I SAY THIS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED
I hate to sound heartless, but why is this our problem. As my esteemed colleague Mr. rednekk said, our first duty should be to take care of our own.iuparrothead wrote:What about refugees? Sudanese? Serbian/Bosnian? etc?
Our country has to keep our borders open to them.
Well you do - and it's called isolationism.tommcat327 wrote:I DIDNT KNOW I FIT INTO A CATEGORY.I JUST DONT LIKE HELPING OUT FOREIGNERS(OR ANYONE) WHO WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING IN RETURN.Key Lime Lee wrote:You can save yourself a lot of typing by just telling folks you're an isolationist.tommcat327 wrote:AND PLENTY OF U.S. SOLDIERS HAVE DIED TO STOP IT,I DONT HOWEVER SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING FOR US.THEY WONT EVEN SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE ARE THERE TO HELP THEM.SO I SAY THIS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED
Not sure who "Joe" is but NC is not one of the least populated states however Montana is.rednekkPH wrote:Jahfin wrote:So by using the word "refugees" that implies they are undesireable? As someone already mentioned, this country was founded by refugees. I heard Alaska had plenty of room too.rednekkPH wrote:Oh great, go and f*ck up one of the few truly pristine states we have left.Jahfin wrote:I heard Montana had plenty of room for 'em.NYC is fine, it's been Disney-fied.rednekkPH wrote:[I meant anybody - American citizens or 3rd world refugees. All it takes is an influx of population to turn anywhere into a cesspool like NYC.
rednekkPH wrote:[What about NC, Joe? Lots of room there too.
THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT.......HIPPYKey Lime Lee wrote:Well you do - and it's called isolationism.tommcat327 wrote:I DIDNT KNOW I FIT INTO A CATEGORY.I JUST DONT LIKE HELPING OUT FOREIGNERS(OR ANYONE) WHO WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING IN RETURN.Key Lime Lee wrote:You can save yourself a lot of typing by just telling folks you're an isolationist.tommcat327 wrote:AND PLENTY OF U.S. SOLDIERS HAVE DIED TO STOP IT,I DONT HOWEVER SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING FOR US.THEY WONT EVEN SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE ARE THERE TO HELP THEM.SO I SAY THIS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED
REALLY?THATS STRANGE BECAUSE MOST OF MY FRIENDS WENT OUT THERE FOR THE 9/11 BIKE RIDE.2 OF THEM WERE STUCK INSIDE A BAR UNTIL THE GUN FIGHT OUTSIDE ENDED,AND ONE HAD HIS HARLEY STOLEN.VERY DISNEYJahfin wrote:NYC is fine, it's been Disney-fied.
Nevermind, I misread...Jahfin wrote:
Not sure who "Joe" is but NC is not one of the least populated states however Montana is.
there are gun battles at disney and even the disney swat team with high-powered rifles... they're just really good at keeping it quiet...tommcat327 wrote:REALLY?THATS STRANGE BECAUSE MOST OF MY FRIENDS WENT OUT THERE FOR THE 9/11 BIKE RIDE.2 OF THEM WERE STUCK INSIDE A BAR UNTIL THE GUN FIGHT OUTSIDE ENDED,AND ONE HAD HIS HARLEY STOLEN.VERY DISNEYJahfin wrote:NYC is fine, it's been Disney-fied.
S'okay, they actually live in South Carolina... I need more caffeine.rednekkPH wrote:
Not who I was referring to (Mr. Nathan), but at least now I know another BNer's name. Thanks Lee!
rednekkPH wrote:I'm with Tom 100% on this one. We can't feed, shelter, and employ the people we have here now, and as far as I'm concerned we need to take care of ourselves first. That's where our true duty should lie.tommcat327 wrote:WE HAD ROOM FOR THEM THEN,WE DO NOT NOW.Fins in Low Places wrote:Funny that someone would argue to deny refugees access to a country founded by refugees.tommcat327 wrote:WHY?I SEE NO NEED FOR THEM TO BE HEREiuparrothead wrote:What about refugees? Sudanese? Serbian/Bosnian? etc?
Our country has to keep our borders open to them.
That is a joke right??? 
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.maybe we can put them on the borderKey Lime Lee wrote:there are gun battles at disney and even the disney swat team with high-powered rifles... they're just really good at keeping it quiet...tommcat327 wrote:REALLY?THATS STRANGE BECAUSE MOST OF MY FRIENDS WENT OUT THERE FOR THE 9/11 BIKE RIDE.2 OF THEM WERE STUCK INSIDE A BAR UNTIL THE GUN FIGHT OUTSIDE ENDED,AND ONE HAD HIS HARLEY STOLEN.VERY DISNEYJahfin wrote:NYC is fine, it's been Disney-fied.
Truthfully.
Ann, I'm not sure where you get this info from, but I'm on the frontline with regards to people looking for governemnt handouts, and you are dead wrong...at least in my area.iuparrothead wrote: But if you knew more or realized the productivity demographic of immigrant and refugee populations you would know that they are more than taking care of themselves. Immigrant and refugee populations are more productive and self-sufficient than most other needy urban populations...because they know they need to work to stay here. They don't ask for hand-outs from our government because they don't understand the concept.
iuparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:I'm with Tom 100% on this one. We can't feed, shelter, and employ the people we have here now, and as far as I'm concerned we need to take care of ourselves first. That's where our true duty should lie.tommcat327 wrote:WE HAD ROOM FOR THEM THEN,WE DO NOT NOW.Fins in Low Places wrote:Funny that someone would argue to deny refugees access to a country founded by refugees.tommcat327 wrote:WHY?I SEE NO NEED FOR THEM TO BE HEREiuparrothead wrote:What about refugees? Sudanese? Serbian/Bosnian? etc?
Our country has to keep our borders open to them.
Who's we? You? Me? Yep, you're right... we can't support a huge portion of our current needy population.
But if you knew more or realized the productivity demographic of immigrant and refugee populations you would know that they are more than taking care of themselves. Immigrant and refugee populations are more productive and self-sufficient than most other needy urban populations...because they know they need to work to stay here. They don't ask for hand-outs from our government because they don't understand the concept.
There is no place like Cabo in the winterThat's easily the most rediculous statement I've ever heard you say Tommy... and being that you say rediculous and narrow-minded things all the time, you've just set the bar higher for yourself.tommcat327 wrote:I DIDNT KNOW I FIT INTO A CATEGORY.I JUST DONT LIKE HELPING OUT FOREIGNERS(OR ANYONE) WHO WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING IN RETURN.Key Lime Lee wrote:You can save yourself a lot of typing by just telling folks you're an isolationist.tommcat327 wrote:AND PLENTY OF U.S. SOLDIERS HAVE DIED TO STOP IT,I DONT HOWEVER SEE THEM DOING ANYTHING FOR US.THEY WONT EVEN SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE ARE THERE TO HELP THEM.SO I SAY THIS IS NOT OUR PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.Silly me, I thought the Soviets were the target.Fins in Low Places wrote:Let's not forget that our own government once supported Bin Laden to a MUCH greater degree.RhumChum wrote:Prior to 9-11, I saw an interview with him. It was the first one he's given in quite some time. I couldn't wait to see it because I loved his music. That interview left me chilled.
He supports Osma Bin Laden both philosophically and financially. They said it and he agreed.
Also regarding Cat Stevens, an article he wrote in the Guardian in the weeks following 9/11 tells a very different story
Yusuf Islam on September 11
There is no place like Cabo in the winterWell, that's not what I mean... I LOVE LOVE LOVE vacation... but if Ireland (in thier interest) wanted to background check me before letting me in there... I'd have no problem with it....nutmeg wrote:Keep everyone out? Even from visiting?? We love to travel and would hate to see the same applied to us. Our trip to Ireland, all of our Caribbean vacations....???tommcat327 wrote:I AGREE,BUT IF THAT IS TO BE DONE THAN WE SHOULD REMOVE EVERYTHING FROM THOSE FOREIGN COUNTRIES,INCLUDING ALL THE FINANACIAL AID,THEIR ABILITY TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY FOR THEIR FREE SCHOOLING AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD MANAGES TO LEECH OFF OF US.PUT THE MILITARY ON OUR BORDERS AND KEEP EVERYONE OUT AND OUR INTERESTS SAFEFins in Low Places wrote:It could actually be argued that it starts with removing the military from certain places globally.RAGTOP wrote: not to get too deep into this but it all starts with putting the military on our borders...
