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Todd Snider Article

Posted: September 22, 2004 3:57 pm
by Jahfin
From The Tennessean:
http://www.tennessean.com/entertainment ... 5983.shtml

Like a rolling stone, revisited

By PETER COOPER
Staff Writer

''East Nashville Skyline'' reveals poet and a place in transition

The joke was that singer-songwriter Todd Snider's bald tour manager, Dave Hixx, looked like Elvis Presley.

''I look at it as a gift,'' Hixx often explained. ''A gift from God.''

Hixx doesn't really look like Elvis, but he can sing like the King, and he likes to put Elvis CDs into the van's CD player while driving Snider around the country.

''I can't sleep,'' Snider said in middle Virginia, knowing he'd need a nap before the van rolled into Alexandria, Va., for his headlining gig at a large club called The Birchmere. A curious mix of restlessness and lethargy, Snider, 37, is bad at sleeping and not much better at being tired. He is good at writing and singing songs, though: good enough that guitar poet heroes including Kris Kristofferson, John Prine and Billy Joe Shaver think he may be the next in their line. He's also the author of an idiosyncratic, hilarious but deeply pained gem of a new album called East Nashville Skyline.

Anyway, he needed a nap. A few miles down the road, Hixx ejected Elvis, slipped Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited disc into the player, and the van filled with the sounds of Dylan's rapid-fire rasp and wailing, cacophonous harmonica. Like A Rolling Stone and Tombstone Blues are lullabies to Snider. Somewhere in the album's third song, along where Dylan proclaims ''Don't say I never warned you when your train gets lost,'' the singer fell into slumber.

East Nashville is different from Nashville proper. Maybe it's Nashville improper. Big, nice houses sit yards away from derelict rental duplexes. Crack dealers walk past artsy bistros. Brown bags cover discarded 40-ounce bottles on curbside pavement in a historic district. Todd Snider's neighborhood is ''transitional,'' but it's hard to say in which direction the transition will end up. Snider, too, is transitional.

''I knew there was something there the first time I heard him,'' John Prine said. ''But I didn't know whether it should be killed or nurtured.''

Snider's path to East Nashville was as crooked as anyone else's. By the time he hit Memphis in the late 1980s, the Oregon native had become accustomed to a gypsy life. He didn't learn to play guitar until he was 20. By the time he was 21, music was his only job.

''First time I heard him was at a pizza place in 1989,'' said Rivers Rutherford, a Memphis contemporary of Snider's who has become a hit songwriter in Nashville. ''There were only about five people there. This one rough-looking guy started heckling him, but within 60 seconds Todd had ripped that guy to shreds and then made a huge fan of him.''

With Memphis musician/publisher Keith Sykes helping him along (''Keith basically gave me a life, and he didn't get a thing in return.''), Snider was allowed a visit/audition at Nashville label chief Jimmy Bowen's home. Snider was a poor, pot-smoking, bedraggled folk singer, trying to make small talk in a rich man's mansion. He asked Bowen, ''Do you believe in God?'' Bowen gestured to his opulent surroundings, nodded in the affirmative and said, ''He likes me.''

A Bowen deal was signed but never consummated, and Sykes found Snider another home at Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville imprint of MCA Records. Both Buffett and MCA Nashville boss Tony Brown approved the deal. Snider doesn't remember much about the year leading up to the 1994 release of his first album. His father died, and it was a hard time. Though he and his dad were seldom of like mind, they were of like spirit.

''He was a bit of a grifter type, a construction person who was always not friends with the last person he worked with,'' Snider said. ''He was a Catholic. Every night it was like it was Friday night, and every day it was like it was Sunday. He had to go to that little booth a lot.''

A fledgling recording artist, Snider was already a veteran at drinking and drugging. Bi-polar tendencies and grief for his father added to the chaos. He had a semi-hit on his hands, though, with a hidden track called Talkin' Seattle Grunge Rock Blues, which satirized the ultra-serious grunge movement. The semi-hit went away, but the exposure helped enormously. Snider had been on television, thus he must be somebody.

''Tony Brown and Jimmy Buffett did me right,'' he said. ''They let me make that album, and I've been a jerk ever since. If I were going to be a disciplined person with goals, I'd have gone into something else.''

Todd Snider isn't a jerk, and he swears he's not an instigator. He's not a redemption story, either. He is a screw-up at times. And he regrets ever taking pain pills, and he probably shouldn't have moved from Nashville to L.A., in part because L.A. is a lousy place to chill out or sober up.

Four years, three major-label albums and one major-label blowup after signing his deal, he moved back to Nashville — to East Nashville, in fact — and began making records for Al Bunetta's indie label, Oh Boy Records, in 2000. By then, he was widely considered unreliable.

''He's genuine,'' Bunetta said. ''He's crazy, crazy brilliant. Crazy as a fox, I call him.''

At Oh Boy, Snider toned down a sound that had begun to veer into Tom Petty rock 'n' roll territory. The songs got sadder, too, though no less funny. Prine, a master at whittling big ideas into evocative lyrical specifics, helped Snider get to the core of a song called Long Year, about an unsuccessful trip to an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. At the end of the song, the narrator heads from the meeting to a bar: ''They said 'Brother, all you need is another shot'/ So I threw one down and said 'Thanks a lot'/ As I thought to myself, 'Well, here we go again.' ''

He showed the song to old songwriting pal Rutherford.

''He said, 'Listen to this one, isn't that great?' '' Rutherford remembered. ''What I said back was, 'It's just sick.' I do think it's a great song, but what I thought of the song was inconsequential. I just hurt for him.''

As Dave ''Elvis'' Hixx drove along, a photo of Snider's friend and former tour manager, Skip Litz, rested on the van's dashboard.

Litz — a loud, Southern Comfort-swilling, beach ball-bellied walrus of a man — died in July 2003. He was a true friend to Snider, and he's the subject of East Nashville Skyline's Train Song: ''He was a runaway locomotive/ Out of his one-track mind,'' is what Snider wrote.

''Everyone loved Skip,'' Hixx said. ''Actually, I get a little jealous. He was obviously very close to Todd, and he was a good road manager, and people thought so much of him. Plus, one glance at the picture and you can see he looked just like Fabian.''

Todd Snider hasn't gotten famous in the new century, but he may be working on something better.

Without radio hits, he has nonetheless expanded his audience. In concert, he has rehearsed his stories and songs until they seem almost off-the-cuff. His comic timing is impeccable, and he can follow something like Long Year with rambling laughers that break tension. Working underneath the popular radar, he has nonetheless built the foundation of a long-term career.

''Sometimes people see Todd up there and they go, 'He's eccentric. It's not going to work for him,' '' said guitarist and longtime collaborator Will Kimbrough. ''But it is working for him.''

When he plays, people show up to hear him. When he plays again, they show up again, and they bring friends. He sings to them in a ravaged but tone-true rasp, and tells them stories in a voice that sounds like a stoner version of Grover from Sesame Street.

Internet groups dedicate chat rooms to him. One such group bought him a new guitar. He's never sold 500,000 copies of an album, but Oh Boy's costs are considerably less than a major label's, so his music makes money. He is among the most successful artists of the burgeoning ''Americana'' genre. (See getting there information below)

''This is the kind of music that takes a long, long time to break, and takes a long, long time to go away,'' Bunetta said.

Those things, along with his marriage to painter Melita Osheowitz, make him happy. Or happier. Those are the things that normally cause formerly troubled musicians to say things like, ''I'm in a really good place now.'' Snider doesn't say things like that, though. He laughs more these days, but that doesn't mean he's going to say he's in a good place.

The year 2003 was one big bad place for Snider. His back hurt, his stomach hurt, and he mixed booze and pot with a narcotic prescription painkiller called OxyContin. He was getting thrown out of bars, and he was arrested in Oregon when a highway crew guy told the police that Snider had swerved to hit him. A charge that Snider denies, and that seems out of character for a man of whom Bunetta said, ''If Todd had a gun, he'd shoot himself in the foot.''

Then his best friend Skip Litz died in July. The ensuing months were a blur. In November, Snider went to the hospital with searing stomach pains. He was ordered to go to drug rehab and was forced to cancel shows. And somewhere in there he wrote some songs and they were some of the best he'd ever written.

There was one about the Oregon jail, one about Litz, one about Nashville and a couple that were more or less about himself. One of those ended: ''I thought that I'd be dead by now, but I'm not''; the other ended with a guy who'd tried to commit suicide waking up determined to make the best of a second chance, to go out ''walkin' souls into the holes of my shoes.''

He did go out walking, in East Nashville, and he wound up checking out friend Eric McConnell's studio on one of those walks. And then he wound up recording there, and calling in Kimbrough to produce. And he called the finished album East Nashville Skyline, and Prine and Bunetta and Billy Joe Shaver and Kris Kristofferson loved it.

Snider celebrated the album's completion by doing drugs again, and wound up back in the hospital early this year. Since that scare, he's leveled out some, gotten back on the road and done a whole lot of explaining to interviewers, friends, fans and others about just why he'd been living so hard. Sometimes he'd quote a John Prine song, the one where Prine sings, ''Way down/ I can't stop this misery/ It must be way down.''

And then he'd smile kindly and make some joke, or, better yet, sing something. The night after the Birchmere show, he went to hear Prine and Kristofferson in concert, and Kristofferson gave him a big hug and said, ''I'm so proud of you, man. You're the real deal.'' And that makes him happy. Or happier.

''Anything you want to talk about, I'll talk about it, just so long as it doesn't sound like I'm bragging about taking drugs,'' Snider said, before taking the stage at a performance hall in Germantown, Md. ''I'm not bragging about it, at all.''

That night, he agonized over the set list, then ended up taking requests all night and negating the hour he'd spent on the list. For an encore, he played some Billy Joe Shaver songs, and one song he'd written about the death of Billy Joe's son, Eddy Shaver, a friend of Snider's who died from a heroin overdose. Then Snider concluded with the chorus of Billy Joe's most uplifting number: ''I'm just an old chunk of coal,'' he sang. ''But I'm gonna be a diamond someday.''

He left the stage with a smile, leaving his audience with a nearly unanimous notion: ''He's in a really good place, isn't he?''

Two minutes later, he was alone in a hallway, banging on a backstage piano and singing Bob Dylan's Like a Rolling Stone: ''People'd call, say 'Beware doll, you're bound to fall'/ You thought they were all kiddin' you.''

Getting there

The Americana Music Association's annual conference takes place in Nashville this Thursday, Friday and Saturday, meaning area clubs Mercy Lounge, The Station Inn and 12th & Porter will be filled with music that's (very) loosely defined as ''American roots music based on the traditions of country.''

Todd Snider will be on The Station Inn bill Thursday night, performing with The Mammals, Grey DeLisle and Adrienne Young at a show slated to begin at 9 p.m. and end at 1 a.m. Other show lineups and schedules may be found online at americanamusic.org.

While conference registration is $350 to non-AMA members, wristbands good for admission to the three nights of shows are available for $25. Again, consult the americanamusic.org Web site.

In addition to daily panels and nightly performances, the AMA will hold an awards show at 7 p.m. Friday at the Nashville Convention Center. The Tennessean will provide coverage of the awards show, as well as daily, notebook-style entries from the conference.

A briefly annotated discography

• Songs for the Daily Planet, 1994 (HH½) — The production was too polished, and Snider didn't yet sound comfortable in his own voice, but the radio success of Talkin' Seattle Grunge Rock Blues made this the closest thing he's had to a hit album.

• Step Right Up, 1996 (HHH) — Less contrived and more assured than the Songs album, this album has some good stuff, particularly the sparse Tension and rocker Late Last Night.

• Viva Satellite, 1998 (HHH) — ''I didn't realize I was copying Tom Petty until the album was already done,'' Snider would later say of this one. Aside from the egregious Petty nods and a cover of The Joker that Snider didn't want on the album, this was a strong release.

• Happy To Be Here, 2000 (HHH) — Here, Snider scaled back the rock stuff and became a folk singer again. Long Year, D.B. Cooper and the title track were particularly evocative and accomplished.

• New Connection, 2002 (HHH½) — Funkier than Happy, and packed with smart, funny songs. (Statistician's Blues, Broke, etc.) The album-closing Waco Moon is a stunner.

• Near Truths and Hotel Rooms, 2003 (HHH½) — Snider makes his living on the road and this live album illustrates why.

• East Nashville Skyline, 2004 (HHHH) — His first masterful studio album, recorded in East Nashville shortly after Snider emerged from a drug rehabilitation stint. Snider's voice sounds ravaged at times, and the humor can't hope to offset some dark, dark moments. But the botched-suicide tale of Sunshine ends up providing hope for singer and listener alike.

Posted: September 22, 2004 8:42 pm
by Duff
Excellent article. I'm going out to get East Nashville tomorrow. Todd introduced me Robert Earl Keen in his "Beer Run" song and I can't stop listening to him. I'm really enjoying this folk "americana" genre. Thanks for the article Jah.

Posted: September 22, 2004 9:53 pm
by Fins in Low Places
I just saw this article from this weekend's paper & was planning on reading it later tonight. I loved his first record, but haven't listened to much since. I think I will pick up the new one. I'm going to try to make it to tomorrow night's show.

Posted: September 23, 2004 1:40 am
by Drumkat
I opened for Todd a few months ago in chicago. I dont expect him to be around much longer. Sad, cause he's really cool.

Now if he can just get clean.

Posted: September 23, 2004 7:31 am
by a1aara
Dave Hixx is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet.

Why don't you think Todd will be around? Where did you open for him?

Posted: September 23, 2004 8:06 am
by Duff
No kidding drumkat? It's gotten that bad? Any stories you can share? What kind of band do you have? and do you travel to Central Indiana? Hope that's not too many questions.

Posted: September 25, 2004 11:17 am
by Duff
Got the disc yesterday, have listened to it twice already and love it. Some pretty dark songs, but love the ending. Very impressed.

Posted: September 28, 2004 11:34 am
by Jahfin
Here's an interview with Todd from CMT.com:
http://www.cmt.com/news/articles/149139 ... todd.jhtml

A Conversation With Todd Snider
He's an "Alright Guy" With Something to Say

By: Craig Shelburne

For those who have been following Todd Snider's career for the last 10 years, East Nashville Skyline is the album you've been waiting for. On this record, he nails the conversational personality he adopts on stage, and his writing remains as witty as ever -- whether he's reliving the scandalous days of "Louie Louie," tagging along with Mike Tyson or putting the blame on "Conservative Christian, Right-Wing Republican, Straight, White American Males."

Over hot drinks at an East Nashville coffee shop one morning, Snider considers his fondness for Alan Jackson, his offstage fright and the biggest personal surprise since he introduced himself as an "Alright Guy" in 1994.

East Nashville Skyline seems very conversational for a studio album. What do you remember the most about making the record?

Let me think about that. … (long pause) What do I remember the most about making the record? I'm just trying to ask myself. … Every time I try to think of a quick response … . The guy who recorded the album, Eric McConnell, he's got these really cool dogs over there all the time. … The thing I mostly remember, though, this is the first record that I ever did where I just went and did it, and I just had a feeling the record company would be all right with it. I did it, and then I said, "Guess how much you owe everybody? And I hope you like it!" So I remember having that sort of pressure on myself rolling off. I'll always remember that.

The first song, "Age Like Wine," cracks me up, where people tell you the old stuff is nothing like the new stuff, and your new shows are nothing like the old shows. Do people really stay that to you?

People say that to me a lot. It's funny how after a concert, there'll be 30-odd people lined up to meet you -- and not all of them are lined up to say something nice to you. Almost every night, somebody says something mean, and I'm pretty sensitive. It's hard, but you just learn to deal with it. People say worse than that -- and wait in line to do it!

Do they have that perception of you five years ago, and that's all they want?

No, there's no particular piece of criticism that comes consistently. Like some nights, some guy will come up with this one record and say, "This was the one, man!" And then the next guy will come up and say, "I love the new one, but I didn't like the one that he liked." Whatever … I think I'm a little too sensitive or maybe more sensitive than the others, but I hope not.

Rather than including the lyrics, you decided to write liner notes about all the songs. Did you feel like you needed to explain yourself on the songs?

I didn't necessarily feel like I had to explain myself, because I hope that even outside of the little story and the personal relationship to me, that people find different stories in there that more pertain to them. Really though, I think it was Maude Gilman who did the album art. I was telling her how I felt like this record was about a certain little thing, but hopefully with a bigger thing. She said, "Why don't you type all that in there?" So it was actually just a suggestion. So I typed it and re-typed it and did it 50 times. It was 50 pages when I started.

"The Ballad of the Kingsmen" seems to be about how music can scare people or be a scapegoat. But I think that's the key to a really great folk song. Do you think that it's your role as a folksinger to stir things up?

Yeah, stirring s*** up and creating a little chaos if you can. Or find the problem and not offer a solution and get the hell out of the bar, quick. That feels like what folk singers do, to me. I feel like one, and I like that stuff, more than anything. I like music so much, I do it five hours a day whether I'm supposed to or not. But really I would say, the chaos of the road is my favorite part of the whole thing, just being honest. I like all that. I guess that's connected to that song a little bit, just because I like that people can write me letters and say, "That's inappropriate." … That's fun.

It means they're listening.

Yeah, that's right. That's what I say. Someone says, "You've got a bad reputation." I say, "You know who I am? All right!" (laughs)

When I was looking at the song titles, I noticed "Nashville," and I thought, "Oh no."

Here's another one, right?

I was totally expecting a song about how country isn't country anymore.

I'm sick of that song, the one you were expecting. I was hoping people were going to expect that and get the exact opposite. I'm so … tired of that song. I'd lash out at Robbie Fulks right now. I think that song he wrote about Nashville is: a) not very good and b) not very funny. Maybe you just weren't good enough to work with [record producer-label executive] Tony Brown. There, I said it.

I think that we still make good music here, and if there is a fault or burden, it might fall on us No Depression-y people that are so bitter. I'm hopefully not including myself. It's one of those things where there's an underground country movement. For some of the younger people, it feels based on hatred, almost like punk rock: "We formed this band because we don't like that band." Well, I'm not interested. That's a lot of why I did that song. I was trying to make a record about East Nashville, and the thing that I think is cool about East Nashville is that it's like Austin without the anger toward Alan Jackson. You know what I mean? It's a cool little artsy-fartsy community. This may just be the crowd I run in, but we're too busy trying to find music we like to stop and talk about music we don't like.

That's why I like this job -- because I like country music.

I do, too. I like that song, [Toby Keith's] "I Love This Bar." There's always a song on country radio that I love, just like every other station on the dial. And there's always a song where I hit the switcher for, too. That's my humble opinion, but I think when the people in the '70s were trying to make it, they weren't mad at George Jones. They were just like, "Hey, I just want to sing about sex because it's really happening. I think George Jones is great."

I love the Bottle Rockets, and I like Alan Jackson, and to me, those are the two sides. I like them all the same. I wish that we weren't apart or those sides weren't apart. I guess I'm kinda out of it, being a folk singer, but as a fan that lives in this neighborhood, I've got my opinions, too.

When people find out you live in Nashville, is there an expectation that you must be a country singer?

Not anymore. You know, my first year, when I went out on the road, it seemed like it. People always said, "Don't say you're country. Don't say you're from Nashville. Don't mention Jerry Jeff [Walker]." I used to do that a lot. (laughs) But I did it anyway. I don't think there's anything wrong with being a country singer that's not mainstream. I'm kinda liberal, you know? I don't think that's a real common thing in the South, but it's enough for my lights to be on.

What is your favorite part of touring?

When the actual show is going on. That's about it. I don't know if you can tell, but I'm a pretty uptight person, but I relax a lot on stage. In the hour before it's time to play, that's my second favorite part of it. That little period when I have my radio playing in my dressing room, making a set list and maybe having a glass a wine.

I would assume that for most musicians, they're nervous about getting on stage and pretty relaxed the rest of the time.

(laughs) I was just talking to John Prine about that the other day. He said, "I noticed that about you the first time I met you, and I still don't understand why you're that way." And I do, I suffer from offstage fright. The stage part just feels easier to control. I don't know what it is, but I do know that's when I finally feel like I get to relax a little bit. It's always been that way.

I heard Gary Allan play "Alright Guy" earlier this summer and I thought about how long that song has been around, and when I first heard your version of it in 1994. What has been the biggest surprise so far, since you wrote that song?

(very long pause) You know, I got it. I say this as a compliment to both people involved and a putdown to myself. I had a misconception of Nashville especially. I got to meet Steve Earle, and he asked me about [CD product] distribution. And I got to meet Garth Brooks, and he read me some poems. Then I knew I didn't know anything about any of it, you know what I mean? (laughs) I always think of those two things and that they were going to be the other way around. Like I said, I consider that a compliment to both guys. I don't think anybody questions whether or not Garth Brooks knows if his distribution is together or if Steve Earle knows if his poetry is together. I just thought it was neat. It's taught me not to judge a book by its cover, obviously, or to round it up.

Is the music business hard for you to get a grasp on?

Yeah. I've never been very good at it. I kinda know. I probably don't get as much bread as I could if I pushed harder. I am one of those guys who travels and has a manager that says, "Now you go here." I'm about to do a new contract, and it'll be the first one ever that I'll read. I used to do the Jerry Lee Lewis school of [pretending to scribble], "Yeah, yeah, yeah … who's paying for these drinks?" But now this one coming up, I'm going to take it seriously. But, yeah, to answer your question, it's hard. So hard, I don't hardly even try. Too much math.

So, why now?

When I first got a record contract, there were two people who wanted me, and I got to choose. And then I got dropped and went right to the one I'm with now. There was nothing to it. And now, that's over. They want me to stay, but I don't have to stay if I don't want to stay. Some other people are calling and saying, "Why don't you come here?" I'm not saying I'm going to be on a big record company and be a star. I'm just saying this is the first time I've ever gotten a chance to say, "Well, I want it to be kind of like this." First, I've got to know what it is and then decide what I want. I'm going to try to be -- I probably won't be -- but I'm going to try to be a little more involved. By now, I've been around long enough to know stuff I'd like.

Posted: September 28, 2004 1:41 pm
by a1aara
Thanks for the cool article! I think Todd has re signed with OHBOY. I know he was leaning that direction.

Posted: September 28, 2004 1:48 pm
by Jahfin
a1aara wrote:Thanks for the cool article! I think Todd has re signed with OHBOY. I know he was leaning that direction.
I'm pretty sure he's been with Oh Boy for quite some time now, at least for his last couple of albums.

Posted: September 28, 2004 8:30 pm
by Duff
Another great article Jah. Preciate you posting it. Still enjoying the new disc. Going to go for some older ones soon.

Posted: September 29, 2004 12:11 am
by Jahfin
Duff wrote:Another great article Jah. Preciate you posting it. Still enjoying the new disc. Going to go for some older ones soon.
I strongly suggest his live album Near Truths and Hotel Rooms as your next purchase. Yeah, some of the stories are longer than the songs but that's the beauty of the thing.

Posted: September 29, 2004 10:15 am
by a1aara
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Snider cd's.