Should Pete Rose be Allowed in the Baseball H.O.F.?

Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » September 25, 2004 11:12 pm

Hubby watched "Hustle" tonight, and they're now discussing whether he should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame on ESPN. What are your thoughts?

phenwayparrothead · September 25, 2004 11:18 pm

the mans accomplishments as a player deserve the hall, you can't take away his all time hits record, so why take himn out of the hall. Im sure not everyone in the hall of fame is an absolute class act. Not everyone can be cal ripken jr.

ejr · Post by **ejr** » September 25, 2004 11:34 pm

phenwayparrothead wrote:the mans accomplishments as a player deserve the hall, you can't take away his all time hits record, so why take himn out of the hall. Im sure not everyone in the hall of fame is an absolute class act. Not everyone can be cal ripken jr.

I agree-I don't believe in reinventing history and nobody played harder than Pete.

However, in the past year or so, I have become so angry with Pete Rose about his denial of what seems to be pretty obvious, and his obnoxious attitude, so I have amended my opinion and feel he should go into the Hall of Fame-----the day after he dies, so he does not have the satisfaction of it.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » September 25, 2004 11:37 pm

So let me get this straight.

Pete Rose is not being allowed in because he disgraced the game. He loved to play, he loved to win, he took it too far.

They allow people in who abuse drugs and alcohol. They allow in bigots and honor racists. The Baseball HOF is run by a bunch of hippocrytes.

They ban players for gambling, but beating your wife gets you a slap on the wrist. You abuse drugs? 7 CHANCES!!! What a load of crap.

Not saying Pete should be forgiven, but he was one of the greatest players ever. That should get him in.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » September 25, 2004 11:39 pm

I watched the movie, and I have the same feeling after watching it that I did before-

STOP THE B.S.ing AND PUT PETE ROSE IN THE HALL OF FAME NOW!!!
HE EARNED IT.
HE DESERVES IT.
HE BELONGS THERE!

Put Pete Rose IN the Hall of Fame, or take Ty the-cheater-racist a$$hole Cobb OUT.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » September 26, 2004 7:03 am

ejr wrote:
phenwayparrothead wrote:the mans accomplishments as a player deserve the hall, you can't take away his all time hits record, so why take himn out of the hall. Im sure not everyone in the hall of fame is an absolute class act. Not everyone can be cal ripken jr.
I agree-I don't believe in reinventing history and nobody played harder than Pete.

However, in the past year or so, I have become so angry with Pete Rose about his denial of what seems to be pretty obvious, and his obnoxious attitude, so I have amended my opinion and feel he should go into the Hall of Fame-----the day after he dies, so he does not have the satisfaction of it.

Shoot, he's always been an obnoxious SOB. Of course, he still comes in a distant fourth in a two-man race with Ty Cobb on that count.

And Cal, while a pretty classy act, isn't exactly simon-pure either. A lot of the legend got scripted by the Oriole front office I have a feeling. He's not dirty either, but I am sure there are a few scuffs and dings that get glossed over.

As for the idea of inducting Pete the day after he dies (or the next induction ceremony), that works for me.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » September 26, 2004 7:05 am

CaptainP wrote:So let me get this straight.

Pete Rose is not being allowed in because he disgraced the game. He loved to play, he loved to win, he took it too far.

They allow people in who abuse drugs and alcohol. They allow in bigots and honor racists. The Baseball HOF is run by a bunch of hippocrytes.

They ban players for gambling, but beating your wife gets you a slap on the wrist. You abuse drugs? 7 CHANCES!!! What a load of crap.

Not saying Pete should be forgiven, but he was one of the greatest players ever. That should get him in.

Come on.. Steve Howe ran up against the NO TOLERANCE Policy.. he is a victim..

Sidew13 · Post by **Sidew13** » September 26, 2004 7:39 am

FREE PETE

Touch O Parrotdise · September 26, 2004 7:58 am

he should have to wait a day longer than shoeless joe has to wait.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » September 26, 2004 8:07 am

Touch O Parrotdise wrote:he should have to wait a day longer than shoeless joe has to wait.

Jackson should be in. Although, there is some question about just how honest Mr. Jackson was. Saw an argument that while he did not necessarily throw the games overtly, he did tone down his performance enough that it would affect a close game. Combined with the other actions by the Sox at the time, it kinda blended into the background.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » September 26, 2004 8:21 am

RinglingRingling wrote:
Touch O Parrotdise wrote:he should have to wait a day longer than shoeless joe has to wait.

Jackson should be in. Although, there is some question about just how honest Mr. Jackson was. Saw an argument that while he did not necessarily throw the games overtly, he did tone down his performance enough that it would affect a close game. Combined with the other actions by the Sox at the time, it kinda blended into the background.

I still don't understand why Jackson is not in the HOF. He received a LIFETIME ban. He died 50 years ago.

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » September 26, 2004 8:22 am

kinda hard to disgrace a game that already IS a disgrace.
i've never understood why in the baseball world gambling is a worse thing than drug abuse,alcoholism or beating your spouse

and i am pretty sure the HOF is(or was)supposed to be all about your accomplishments in the game,not what you did off field in your personal life.
just another reason i hate baseball

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » September 26, 2004 8:24 am

RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:So let me get this straight.

Pete Rose is not being allowed in because he disgraced the game. He loved to play, he loved to win, he took it too far.

They allow people in who abuse drugs and alcohol. They allow in bigots and honor racists. The Baseball HOF is run by a bunch of hippocrytes.

They ban players for gambling, but beating your wife gets you a slap on the wrist. You abuse drugs? 7 CHANCES!!! What a load of crap.

Not saying Pete should be forgiven, but he was one of the greatest players ever. That should get him in.
Come on.. Steve Howe ran up against the NO TOLERANCE Policy.. he is a victim..

Howe? I was talking about Darryl Strawberry!

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » September 26, 2004 9:05 am

CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:So let me get this straight.

Pete Rose is not being allowed in because he disgraced the game. He loved to play, he loved to win, he took it too far.

They allow people in who abuse drugs and alcohol. They allow in bigots and honor racists. The Baseball HOF is run by a bunch of hippocrytes.

They ban players for gambling, but beating your wife gets you a slap on the wrist. You abuse drugs? 7 CHANCES!!! What a load of crap.

Not saying Pete should be forgiven, but he was one of the greatest players ever. That should get him in.
Come on.. Steve Howe ran up against the NO TOLERANCE Policy.. he is a victim..
Howe? I was talking about Darryl Strawberry!

Oh.. then you should have added the hookers angle and I would have known.. Howe wasn't trolling for strays when he was hoovering the white stuff.

tdparrothead · Post by **tdparrothead** » September 26, 2004 12:53 pm

He should be in the HOF. He is one of the greatest ball players of all time. His one flaw shouldn't keep him from being inducted.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » September 26, 2004 7:57 pm

not the same sport but will Michael be in the basketball HOF???

Case dismissed.

And look at my avatar, no way should I be on roses side here.

Post by **SMLCHNG** » September 26, 2004 8:10 pm

Wino you know wrote:HE EARNED IT.
HE DESERVES IT.
HE BELONGS THERE!

Yep.

Captain Morgan · Post by **Captain Morgan** » September 26, 2004 9:12 pm

1 vote for HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He brought joy to me in the Fall of 1980 as I was growing up in Philly. he always played his ass off...regardless of what he did off the field, he deserves it.

son of a beach · Post by **son of a beach** » September 26, 2004 9:31 pm

I think he should be inducted and just as he walks up to the podium he should turn around, moon everyone, and shout "the hall of fame can kiss my a$$"

And then go open up his own casino/bar/Hall of Fame type joint accross the street.

Or at least I think that would be disgustingly classic

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » September 26, 2004 9:39 pm

son of a beach wrote:I think he should be inducted and just as he walks up to the podium he should turn around, moon everyone, and shout "the hall of fame can kiss my a$$"

And then go open up his own casino/bar/Hall of Fame type joint accross the street.

Or at least I think that would be disgustingly classic

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