Buffett One of John Kerry's Favorite ______?

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » October 26, 2004 11:31 pm

Facts will never change their mind...

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » October 26, 2004 11:39 pm

mermaidindisguise wrote:OH Where oh where did our 860 lbs of explosives go.. Oh where Oh where did they go....sing it with me...... maybe now they will take the rose colored glasses off and realize they went in too soon - without enough help and without proper stategc planning... Hello... are you people actually ok with all his crap????/ get a clue
you have one week to get a clue - I am selling them cheap

What does this have to do with Jimmy and his guitar?

PirateJeff · Post by **PirateJeff** » October 26, 2004 11:41 pm

CaptainP wrote:My wife might vote for someone different than I do. I should divorce her.
Jimmy Buffett might vote for someone different than I do. I should stop listening to him.

Anyone see the analogy? ANYONE? ANYONE?

WHO CARES ABOUT HIS POLITICAL AFFILIATION?

WELL said Capt.

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 9:29 am

mermaidindisguise wrote:OH Where oh where did our 860 lbs of explosives go.. Oh where Oh where did they go....sing it with me...... maybe now they will take the rose colored glasses off and realize they went in too soon - without enough help and without proper stategc planning... Hello... are you people actually ok with all his crap????/ get a clue
you have one week to get a clue - I am selling them cheap

Wake up dudette and get with the program....... The administration was well aware of those weapons and had them documented over a year ago...... It is pretty funny how Kerry is soooooooooo desperate that he is throwing every & anything he can find into the ring a week before the election...... John Kerry makes Bill Clinton seem worthy enough to be the next Pope......

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » October 27, 2004 9:45 am

IsleReef wrote:
Wake up dudette and get with the program....... The administration was well aware of those weapons and had them documented over a year ago...... It is pretty funny how Kerry is soooooooooo desperate that he is throwing every & anything he can find into the ring a week before the election...... John Kerry makes Bill Clinton seem worthy enough to be the next Pope......

It wasn't the Kerry campaign that controlled the timing... it was the interim Iraqi government that released a report about it this week. And I'm not sure how the administration was "aware of them".. if by that you mean that they were aware they were missing, that doesn't make me feel any better.

This quote doesn't seem to support your view:

Later Tuesday, Bush's aides moderated their view, saying it was a "mystery" when the explosives disappeared and President Bush did not want to comment on the matter until the facts are known.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » October 27, 2004 10:07 am

Key Lime Lee wrote:
opharbour wrote: I'm willing to bet that if Natalie Maines would have realized the consequences of her comments in Germany, she might have done things a little differently. Principles are one thing, but record sales are another.
Pssst. If you get offered that bet, don't take it.

The comment didn't hurt either the chicks album sales or the tour right after.... about the only thing it did do was get them dropped from some clearchannel stations for a few weeks, which says more about the consequences of media consolidation (especially when said media giant is a campaign contributor to one side) than it does about public opinion.

Ironic, because she said nothing that different than what I hear from a lot of folks in Texas.

And the Chicks are still well loved in Texas and their music gets airplay on non Clear Channel stations. Like lee said they are not promoting a cd right now so you just don't hear them as much.

People in Texas know exactly what Bush did to our state. When he entered the governors office the Texas governement had a huge surplus - lots of money to go towards public works. With Bush and his predecessor now the government is in the red BIG TIME. Yes there will be Texans that vote for Bush because he's from our state but those that have followed Texas politics as well as US politics know that Bush isn't good for Texas or the U.S. - period.

And I don't care who any performer votes for and backs. I vote my conscience as all voters should. (just to keep this thread sorta on track)

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » October 27, 2004 10:20 am

ph4ever wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:
opharbour wrote: I'm willing to bet that if Natalie Maines would have realized the consequences of her comments in Germany, she might have done things a little differently. Principles are one thing, but record sales are another.
Pssst. If you get offered that bet, don't take it.

The comment didn't hurt either the chicks album sales or the tour right after.... about the only thing it did do was get them dropped from some clearchannel stations for a few weeks, which says more about the consequences of media consolidation (especially when said media giant is a campaign contributor to one side) than it does about public opinion.

Ironic, because she said nothing that different than what I hear from a lot of folks in Texas.
And the Chicks are still well loved in Texas and their music gets airplay on non Clear Channel stations. Like lee said they are not promoting a cd right now so you just don't hear them as much.

People in Texas know exactly what Bush did to our state. When he entered the governors office the Texas governement had a huge surplus - lots of money to go towards public works. With Bush and his predecessor now the government is in the red BIG TIME. Yes there will be Texans that vote for Bush because he's from our state but those that have followed Texas politics as well as US politics know that Bush isn't good for Texas or the U.S. - period.

And I don't care who any performer votes for and backs. I vote my conscience as all voters should. (just to keep this thread sorta on track)

What does that have to do with Jimmy and his guitar?

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » October 27, 2004 10:27 am

PHBeerman wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:
opharbour wrote: I'm willing to bet that if Natalie Maines would have realized the consequences of her comments in Germany, she might have done things a little differently. Principles are one thing, but record sales are another.
Pssst. If you get offered that bet, don't take it.

The comment didn't hurt either the chicks album sales or the tour right after.... about the only thing it did do was get them dropped from some clearchannel stations for a few weeks, which says more about the consequences of media consolidation (especially when said media giant is a campaign contributor to one side) than it does about public opinion.

Ironic, because she said nothing that different than what I hear from a lot of folks in Texas.
And the Chicks are still well loved in Texas and their music gets airplay on non Clear Channel stations. Like lee said they are not promoting a cd right now so you just don't hear them as much.

People in Texas know exactly what Bush did to our state. When he entered the governors office the Texas governement had a huge surplus - lots of money to go towards public works. With Bush and his predecessor now the government is in the red BIG TIME. Yes there will be Texans that vote for Bush because he's from our state but those that have followed Texas politics as well as US politics know that Bush isn't good for Texas or the U.S. - period.

And I don't care who any performer votes for and backs. I vote my conscience as all voters should. (just to keep this thread sorta on track)
What does that have to do with Jimmy and his guitar?

dog ask me cow s*it if I know

Can't get ANYTHING past you can I???

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 10:38 am

Key Lime Lee wrote:
IsleReef wrote:
Wake up dudette and get with the program....... The administration was well aware of those weapons and had them documented over a year ago...... It is pretty funny how Kerry is soooooooooo desperate that he is throwing every & anything he can find into the ring a week before the election...... John Kerry makes Bill Clinton seem worthy enough to be the next Pope......
It wasn't the Kerry campaign that controlled the timing... it was the interim Iraqi government that released a report about it this week. And I'm not sure how the administration was "aware of them".. if by that you mean that they were aware they were missing, that doesn't make me feel any better.

This quote doesn't seem to support your view:

Later Tuesday, Bush's aides moderated their view, saying it was a "mystery" when the explosives disappeared and President Bush did not want to comment on the matter until the facts are known.

That is true...... But John Kerry jumped all over it and has now made it the center of his political speeches, with very little time left to actually find out what happened......

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 27, 2004 10:43 am

I've heard that Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, Tx ,endorsed Kerry for president.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » October 27, 2004 10:49 am

a1aara wrote:I've heard that Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, Tx ,endorsed Kerry for president.

that would be correct

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » October 27, 2004 10:50 am

IsleReef wrote:
That is true...... But John Kerry jumped all over it and has now made it the center of his political speeches, with very little time left to actually find out what happened......

Considering that Kerry's thesis all along has been that Bush mishandled the war, wouldn't it follow that he would include what he sees as the latest demonstration of that mishandling?

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 11:02 am

Key Lime Lee wrote:
IsleReef wrote:
That is true...... But John Kerry jumped all over it and has now made it the center of his political speeches, with very little time left to actually find out what happened......
Considering that Kerry's thesis all along has been that Bush mishandled the war, wouldn't it follow that he would include what he sees as the latest demonstration of that mishandling?

I'm sure that it would come from either side during an election...... Both sides have been mud slinging the whole way through....... I will just be happy when this is all over........

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 27, 2004 1:53 pm

You think it is bad now, just wait until election night.

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 2:06 pm

I think things will be pretty calmed down by then.......

ginste · Post by **ginste** » October 27, 2004 2:12 pm

mermaidindisguise wrote:OH Where oh where did our 860 lbs of explosives go.. Oh where Oh where did they go....sing it with me...... maybe now they will take the rose colored glasses off and realize they went in too soon - without enough help and without proper stategc planning... Hello... are you people actually ok with all his crap????/ get a clue
you have one week to get a clue - I am selling them cheap

Kerry will say anything except what he would actually do.

uhhhh...this is where they went:
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dat ... 5_nbcw.htm

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » October 27, 2004 2:28 pm

a1aara wrote:I've heard that Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, Tx ,endorsed Kerry for president.

Does not mean much. Our local paper endorsed Kerry as well. In 2000 the only states where Bush had a larger winning percentage were Utah and Wyoming.

Papers are about as out of touch with their readers opinions as Lee is with reality.

IsleReef · Post by **IsleReef** » October 27, 2004 2:33 pm

PHBeerman wrote:
a1aara wrote:I've heard that Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, Tx ,endorsed Kerry for president.
Does not mean much. Our local paper endorsed Kerry as well. In 2000 the only states where Bush had a larger winning percentage were Utah and Wyoming.

Papers are about as out of touch with their readers opinions as Lee is with reality.

Also newspapers are completely biased and I take offense to that...

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 27, 2004 2:42 pm

PHBeerman wrote:
a1aara wrote:I've heard that Bush's hometown newspaper in Crawford, Tx ,endorsed Kerry for president.
Does not mean much. Our local paper endorsed Kerry as well. In 2000 the only states where Bush had a larger winning percentage were Utah and Wyoming.

Papers are about as out of touch with their readers opinions as Lee is with reality.

Didn't Al Gore's home state of Tennessee and Bill Clinton's home state of Arkansas both go for George Bush 4 years ago?

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » October 27, 2004 3:04 pm

ginste wrote:
mermaidindisguise wrote:OH Where oh where did our 860 lbs of explosives go.. Oh where Oh where did they go....sing it with me...... maybe now they will take the rose colored glasses off and realize they went in too soon - without enough help and without proper stategc planning... Hello... are you people actually ok with all his crap????/ get a clue
you have one week to get a clue - I am selling them cheap
Kerry will say anything except what he would actually do.

uhhhh...this is where they went:
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dat ... 5_nbcw.htm

Actually that hasn't been substantiated... turns out the Amercian forces that went in there secured the area, but never searched or attempted to secure weapons...

Tuesday, White House officials first said the explosives may have disappeared from a vast Iraqi military complex while Saddam Hussein still controlled Iraq, saying a brigade of U.S. soldiers did not find the explosives when they visited the complex April 10, 2003, the day after Baghdad fell.

But the unit's commander told the Times his troops had not searched the site and had merely stopped there overnight.

"We did not get involved in any of the bunkers. It was not our mission. It was not our focus," Anderson said.

Later Tuesday, Bush's aides moderated their view, saying it was a "mystery" when the explosives disappeared and President Bush did not want to comment on the matter until the facts are known.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking ... -7569r.htm