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No casualties in Iraq?????

Posted: October 21, 2004 9:40 am
by a1aara
No casualties? White House disputes Robertson comment
'The president never made such a comment'








EAU CLAIRE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- A White House spokesman denied Wednesday that President Bush told Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson that he did not expect casualties from the invasion of Iraq.

"The president never made such a comment," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Senior Bush campaign adviser Karen Hughes, a longtime confidant of the president, said she was "certain" Bush would not have said anything like that to Robertson.

"Perhaps he misunderstood, but I've never heard the president say any such thing," Hughes said on CNN's "Inside Politics."

Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.

Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "

More than 1,100 American troops have been killed in Iraq since the invasion, most of them battling an insurgency that followed the overthrow of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Sen. John Kerry, Bush's Democratic challenger, quickly seized on Robertson's account.

Kerry's campaign issued a statement Wednesday challenging Bush to say whether the "700 Club" founder and 1988 GOP presidential candidate was telling the truth.

"We believe President Bush should get the benefit of the doubt here," Kerry spokesman Mike McCurry said in a news release.

"But he needs to come forward and answer a very simple question: Is Pat Robertson telling the truth when he said you didn't think there'd be any casualties, or is Pat Robertson lying?"

McClellan said Bush did meet with Robertson in Nashville before the invasion, as Robertson recounted. But McClellan said Bush always has recognized that war "requires sacrifice" and that there would be American casualties.

In a statement issued Wednesday afternoon, Robertson restated his "100 percent" support for Bush's re-election and said he began and ended his CNN interview "with my warm endorsement and praise of President Bush." But he did not back away from his comments.

"I emphatically stated that, 'I believe 'the blessing of heaven is upon him,' and I am persuaded that he will win this election and prevail on the war against terror in order to keep America safe from her avowed enemies," Robertson said.

In his CNN interview, the religious leader described Bush on the eve of the invasion as "the most self-assured man I've ever met in my life."

"You remember Mark Twain said, 'He looks like a contented Christian with four aces.' I mean he was just sitting there like, 'I'm on top of the world,' " Robertson said on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now."

"And I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, 'Mr. President, you had better prepare the American people for casualties.' "

He said that's when the president told him he did not expect casualties from the invasion.

Even if he stumbles and messes up -- and he's had his share of stumbles and gaffes -- I just think God's blessing is on him.
-- Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson

In the interview, Robertson also said he wishes Bush would admit to mistakes made.

"I mean, the Lord told me it was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy," Robertson said. "I warned him about casualties."

Asked why he thought Bush has refused to admit to mistakes on Iraq, Robertson said, "I don't know this politics game. You know, you can never say you were wrong because the opposition grabs onto it: 'See, he admitted he screwed up.' "

Even as Robertson criticized Bush for downplaying the potential dangers of the Iraq war, he heaped praise on Bush, saying he believes the president will win the election.

"Even if he stumbles and messes up -- and he's had his share of stumbles and gaffes -- I just think God's blessing is on him," Robertson said.

CNN's John King contributed to this report.

Posted: October 21, 2004 9:41 am
by Air M'Ville Cap'n
Once again, shows he's out of touch with reality

Posted: October 21, 2004 10:03 am
by a1aara
Is the Bush staff calling Pat Robertson a liar?

Posted: October 21, 2004 10:05 am
by Air M'Ville Cap'n
a1aara wrote:Is the Bush staff calling Pat Robertson a liar?
Apparently Hughes and McClellan both deny Bush said that there'd be no casualties. So I would say yes they are

Posted: October 21, 2004 10:08 am
by iuparrothead
It's hearsay... :roll: Just more dirty political ploys. Next we'll be hearing rumors from the other side saying that John Kerry is taking bribes or that he had an affair with the nanny. :roll: Those kind of stories are all just rediculous crap. Not worth a thing........

Posted: October 21, 2004 10:35 am
by CaribbnSoul
wow...i'm suprised someone even took the time to post this :roll:

look at the source people....this is the same guy who'd made predicitons on everything from the apocalypse to healing people over the phone on his show based on his "Visions from God"

I think maybe he misunderstood.....maybe he was in mid-trance when the conversation took place.

Posted: October 21, 2004 10:48 am
by a1aara
I agree CaribbnSoul but this is the same guy that is head of the Christian Coalition. I thought he was tight with Bush.

Posted: October 21, 2004 11:00 am
by land_shark3
Air M'Ville Cap'n wrote:Once again, shows he's out of touch with reality
Who; Bush or Robertson? Or both?!? :o :roll:

Posted: October 21, 2004 11:00 am
by NYCPORT
I think Bush is a moron, but I don't think he said those exact words to Robertson. Even he isn't that stupid.

Posted: October 21, 2004 11:26 am
by Air M'Ville Cap'n
a1aara wrote:I agree CaribbnSoul but this is the same guy that is head of the Christian Coalition. I thought he was tight with Bush.
Yea I don't see what Robertson's reason to lie would be. He's a Bush supporter

Posted: October 21, 2004 11:53 am
by SchoolGirlHeart
No Commander-in-Chief would ever have made such a comment...... It would be ludicrous....... Every president understands that if he sends troops into harm's way, at least a few are going to pay the ultimate price.

I can't imagine why Robertson would make such a patently stupid remark, unless he's planning on running for office again..... Or unless there was money involved.......

Posted: October 21, 2004 12:25 pm
by a1aara
It doesn't make sence. Robertson is working hard with Falwell to try to deliever the "christian" vote to the republicans in November. Let's all sit back and see how Karl Rove discredits Robertson on any and all levels.

Posted: October 21, 2004 4:30 pm
by tommcat327
iuparrothead wrote:It's hearsay... :roll: Just more dirty political ploys. Next we'll be hearing rumors from the other side saying that John Kerry is taking bribes or that he had an affair with the nanny.
he would have left that for the kennedy clan,thats more their specialty

Posted: October 21, 2004 4:32 pm
by rednekkPH
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I can't imagine why Robertson would make such a patently stupid remark...
How about because he's Robertson. Has he ever said anything that wasn't patently stupid?

Posted: October 21, 2004 4:42 pm
by CaribbnSoul
rednekkPH wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I can't imagine why Robertson would make such a patently stupid remark...
How about because he's Robertson. Has he ever said anything that wasn't patently stupid?
Here Here

I wonder if in any of his visions, he saw that he would be a dumba$$?

Posted: October 21, 2004 4:57 pm
by mermaidindisguise
I don't give a crap about the comment he made or whether he made it - the fact that he is friends with Pat Robertson and his girlfriend Pat Buchannon is the scary thing..... these are people that blamed the florida brush fires on Disney bc they sponsored Gay Days... :o

Posted: October 21, 2004 5:00 pm
by PHBeerman
mermaidindisguise wrote:I don't give a crap about the comment he made or whether he made it - the fact that he is friends with Pat Robertson and his girlfriend Pat Buchannon is the scary thing..... these are people that blamed the florida brush fires on Disney bc they sponsored Gay Days... :o
Actually Buchannon and his magazine are p*** at Bush. The magazine actually is endorsing Kerry.

Posted: October 21, 2004 5:11 pm
by tommcat327
PHBeerman wrote:
mermaidindisguise wrote:I don't give a crap about the comment he made or whether he made it - the fact that he is friends with Pat Robertson and his girlfriend Pat Buchannon is the scary thing..... these are people that blamed the florida brush fires on Disney bc they sponsored Gay Days... :o
Actually Buchannon and his magazine are p*** at Bush. The magazine actually is endorsing Kerry.
but why let facts get in the way of a good political argument troy?

Posted: October 21, 2004 5:34 pm
by iuparrothead
tommcat327 wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
mermaidindisguise wrote:I don't give a crap about the comment he made or whether he made it - the fact that he is friends with Pat Robertson and his girlfriend Pat Buchannon is the scary thing..... these are people that blamed the florida brush fires on Disney bc they sponsored Gay Days... :o
Actually Buchannon and his magazine are p*** at Bush. The magazine actually is endorsing Kerry.
but why let facts get in the way of a good political argument troy?
or rediculous hearsay!?!? :roll:

Posted: October 21, 2004 5:36 pm
by PHBeerman
iuparrothead wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
mermaidindisguise wrote:I don't give a crap about the comment he made or whether he made it - the fact that he is friends with Pat Robertson and his girlfriend Pat Buchannon is the scary thing..... these are people that blamed the florida brush fires on Disney bc they sponsored Gay Days... :o
Actually Buchannon and his magazine are p*** at Bush. The magazine actually is endorsing Kerry.
but why let facts get in the way of a good political argument troy?
or rediculous hearsay!?!? :roll:
http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html