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Posted: November 3, 2004 5:19 pm
by PHBeerman
captainjoe wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:The ad also falsely stated that Cheney got $2 million from Halliburton after becoming Vice President, when in fact all the money was deferred compensation earned in 1999, and most of it was paid just before Cheney was sworn in.
Does that not strike you as a bribe? That quote proves that Cheney was bought and paid for by Halliburton. I wish my old job would give me "deferred compensation" right before I took a new job.
You might want to do your research before you spout such stupidity.

This deferred compensation was negotiated into his compensation package while he was an exec at Haliburton.


I guess they can't all be career politicians. God forbid they once worked in the private sector.

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:20 pm
by captainjoe
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:22 pm
by PHBeerman
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/ ... lpractice/

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:22 pm
by captainjoe
PHBeerman wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:The ad also falsely stated that Cheney got $2 million from Halliburton after becoming Vice President, when in fact all the money was deferred compensation earned in 1999, and most of it was paid just before Cheney was sworn in.
Does that not strike you as a bribe? That quote proves that Cheney was bought and paid for by Halliburton. I wish my old job would give me "deferred compensation" right before I took a new job.
You might want to do your research before you spout such stupidity.
The homophobe just called me stupid! :lol:

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:23 pm
by iuparrothead
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
John Edwards blocked all the reform legislation. No joke. His buddy Dick Durbin of IL, another plaintiff's attorney, helped him too.

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:24 pm
by IsleReef
captainjoe wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:The ad also falsely stated that Cheney got $2 million from Halliburton after becoming Vice President, when in fact all the money was deferred compensation earned in 1999, and most of it was paid just before Cheney was sworn in.
Does that not strike you as a bribe? That quote proves that Cheney was bought and paid for by Halliburton. I wish my old job would give me "deferred compensation" right before I took a new job.
You might want to do your research before you spout such stupidity.
The homophobe just called me stupid! :lol:
He's no homophobe...... He just hates NASCAR.............. :P :P :wink:

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:25 pm
by captainjoe
iuparrothead wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
John Edwards blocked all the reform legislation. No joke. His buddy Dick Durbin of IL, another plaintiff's attorney, helped him too.
Just wondering, what has been kind of legislation was stopped?

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:25 pm
by GrannaC
ph4ever wrote:
GrannaC wrote:
Fur Play wrote:
GrannaC wrote:Somebody call for me??
Yo, why don't you get on up outta heah and let's go have some fun, you dig?
Don't make me hurt you.

I find this post quite interesting :wench: :lol:

:wench: :wench:
Connie, can you cover for me for a while? I'm outta here for a couple of hours. 8)

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:25 pm
by iuparrothead
PHBeerman wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/ ... lpractice/
This article makes me want to hug the President!!!

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:25 pm
by captainjoe
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
John Edwards blocked all the reform legislation. No joke. His buddy Dick Durbin of IL, another plaintiff's attorney, helped him too.
Just wondering, what kind of legislation was stopped?

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:27 pm
by IsleReef
Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn.................... :-?

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:27 pm
by Elrod

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:29 pm
by iuparrothead
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
John Edwards blocked all the reform legislation. No joke. His buddy Dick Durbin of IL, another plaintiff's attorney, helped him too.
Just wondering, what has been kind of legislation was stopped?
Actually, a lot of it was riders on other bills... the reality is that evil vampire trial lawyers want to bleed millions of dollars out of doctors because they get upwards of 30% of the the financial award. The general public and juries still believe that doctors are wealthy and can afford it, when that is disgustingly wrong. Doctors are not all wealthy, especially when they have to pay $140,000 malpractice premiums like surgeons do here in Illinois.

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:30 pm
by Melli_Fera
after reading 15 pages of this...here is my quick end of the day "drive thru" of opinions...

1. I voted for W
1A. I'm a christian
2. I was concerned about the impact changing leaders would have in the middle of a war
3. I vote on issues based on my own conscience, which is led by my perception of morality and faith
4. I have the right to not like people's lifestyle choices, (I too have gay friends and on occasion love them more than my hetero friends).
5. Since I might not like people's lifestyle choices, I have the right to not want to be lumped in the same category as them (definition of marriage)
6. I don't want to say, I'm married, and have people wonder if I'm gay or hetero (i'm not married yet either)
7. There are other ways to give gay couples the same rights and benefits of hetero couples...without CHANGING what has already been there... creating a new concept isn't a bad thing....
8. I agree that we're all different, but equal in the fact that we all have different moral values...and thus vote and think differently! We should all cherish that right of our own, as well as that right for others!
9. My biggest issue is that people with opposing views of mine think I shouldn't vote my conscience, and don't tolerate me... when those same people are voting their own conscience, and demand me to tolerate them...

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:31 pm
by aquaholic
I'm gonna complain.......I got a frikin ticket on my way hope for no seatbelt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:32 pm
by Fur Play
GrannaC wrote:Connie, can you cover for me for a while? I'm outta here for a couple of hours. 8)
Well get on up in da Fur Bus then. I can always make room for one mo honey like you.

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:33 pm
by IsleReef
aquaholic wrote:I'm gonna complain.......I got a frikin ticket on my way hope for no seatbelt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buckle up for safety.................. :wink:

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:33 pm
by captainjoe
iuparrothead wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
captainjoe wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:And, as you know, I am partial to the issue of healthcare reform and medical liability reform. I believe the Bush administration addresses both of those issues more appropriately and realistically... whereas the Kerry campaign ignored medical liability reform altogether.
I have never followed this topic like I have others, so I am a little blind to what has been happening on medical liability reform, so what, if any, current legislation is out there that this admin has sought to change? Have they passed any laws or had any laws started to help reform medical liability?
John Edwards blocked all the reform legislation. No joke. His buddy Dick Durbin of IL, another plaintiff's attorney, helped him too.
Just wondering, what has been kind of legislation was stopped?
Actually, a lot of it was riders on other bills... the reality is that evil vampire trial lawyers want to bleed millions of dollars out of doctors because they get upwards of 30% of the the financial award. The general public and juries still believe that doctors are wealthy and can afford it, when that is disgustingly wrong. Doctors are not all wealthy, especially when they have to pay $140,000 malpractice premiums like surgeons do here in Illinois.
How long do they have to pay that $140,000? Is that over a career or what. That does not seem to be very fair. Here in Peoria, the is a lawyer that has his staircase outlined in gold. The door handles are all gold. His name is etched in marble and filled with gold. He is an ambulance chaser. He also owns the biggest house in our fine little town.

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:34 pm
by iuparrothead
IsleReef wrote:
aquaholic wrote:I'm gonna complain.......I got a frikin ticket on my way hope for no seatbelt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buckle up for safety.................. :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: November 3, 2004 5:34 pm
by ph4ever
Fur Play wrote:
GrannaC wrote:Connie, can you cover for me for a while? I'm outta here for a couple of hours. 8)
Well get on up in da Fur Bus then. I can always make room for one mo honey like you.


WOOO HOOO!!!!!!