Riot in Detroit

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » November 19, 2004 11:16 pm

Anyone see the game?

Ron Artest fouls Ben Wallace hard.
Wallace shoves Artest.
The teams scuffle, it ends.
FAN comes out of the stands, attacks ARTEST!!!!!! (Of all people, why would you attack this maniac?)

ALL OUT BRAWL ENSUES!!!!!!!
Fans, players, coaches!
It's on the floor...in the stands.

Game was called & awarded to the Pacers. (They would've won anyway.)

Anyone see it? We had it on at the restaurant....it was incredible!

THe fan should be thrown in jail.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:19 pm

I didn't see this, but can't wait to see the instant replay!

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:26 pm

btw, that out-of-control fan wasn't a balding guy on the short side, with round black-framed glasses, was he???

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » November 19, 2004 11:26 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I didn't see this, but can't wait to see the instant replay!

Trust me, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen at a a sporting event. I'll bet CM was there...he probably started it!!!!!

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » November 19, 2004 11:27 pm

the Foul was ..... BS. The fan was outta line
the whole thing was wild..

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:29 pm

*taps fingers impatiently* COME ON, CNN!!!! Geez, someone SNEEZES in Baghdad, and they're on top of it..... How come no b-ball brawl yet????

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » November 19, 2004 11:30 pm

ragtopW wrote:the Foul was ..... BS. The fan was outta line
the whole thing was wild..

The foul really wasn't much. Wallace shoved, but it was really no big deal. The fan should be sent to jail for instigating a public riot.

Buffett4ever · Post by **Buffett4ever** » November 19, 2004 11:34 pm

CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:the Foul was ..... BS. The fan was outta line
the whole thing was wild..
The foul really wasn't much. Wallace shoved, but it was really no big deal. The fan should be sent to jail for instigating a public riot.

The players being professionals should have had enough mind to restrain themselves also. Climbing onto the table to get the fans? I am not siding with the fan who threw the beer but they players have to realize they are going to be chided and hassled by fans. It goes with the territory. I thought the players were totally out of line.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » November 19, 2004 11:34 pm

CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:the Foul was ..... BS. The fan was outta line
the whole thing was wild..
The foul really wasn't much. Wallace shoved, but it was really no big deal. The fan should be sent to jail for instigating a public riot.

that foul you are right wasn't much. but the BS fouls
after the play or "because" you cannot legaly stop the hoop
is what I am jumping on..

PS. I think that the "late" hits after a football player has crossed the goal line are BS. too..
Just me.

kitty · Post by **kitty** » November 19, 2004 11:39 pm

I just watched that with my kids and two of their friends...it was the most amzing, and not in a good way, thing I have ever seen! In all of the sporting events that I have watched...I have never seen anything like that. It was surreal. I personally think that there will be some people from the security force fired!

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » November 19, 2004 11:40 pm

kitty wrote:I just watched that with my kids and two of their friends...it was the most amzing, and not in a good way, thing I have ever seen! In all of the sporting events that I have watched...I have never seen anything like that. It was surreal. I personally think that there will be some people from the security force fired!

But that's unfair...the security force was outnumbered by 16,000 people!!!

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:41 pm

kitty wrote:I just watched that with my kids and two of their friends...it was the most amzing, and not in a good way, thing I have ever seen! In all of the sporting events that I have watched...I have never seen anything like that. It was surreal. I personally think that there will be some people from the security force fired!

I've just seen it..... I agree that security was severely lacking!

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » November 19, 2004 11:42 pm

Buffett4ever wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:the Foul was ..... BS. The fan was outta line
the whole thing was wild..
The foul really wasn't much. Wallace shoved, but it was really no big deal. The fan should be sent to jail for instigating a public riot.
The players being professionals should have had enough mind to restrain themselves also. Climbing onto the table to get the fans? I am not siding with the fan who threw the beer but they players have to realize they are going to be chided and hassled by fans. It goes with the territory. I thought the players were totally out of line.

It started as self-defense....but then they let emotion take them. I'm not condoning what they did, but I can understand. What would you do if someone came to your job, grabbed you around the neck and started punching your face?

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:43 pm

CaptainP wrote:
kitty wrote:I just watched that with my kids and two of their friends...it was the most amzing, and not in a good way, thing I have ever seen! In all of the sporting events that I have watched...I have never seen anything like that. It was surreal. I personally think that there will be some people from the security force fired!
But that's unfair...the security force was outnumbered by 16,000 people!!!

yeah, but there should be enough security in place to squelch anything like that......

HOWEVER, that doesn't take the fans and players off the hook, IMHO.

Brown Eyed Girl · Post by **Brown Eyed Girl** » November 19, 2004 11:46 pm

Hmmm, Detroit....are we sure Captain Morgan or Defimoff didn't start this!

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » November 19, 2004 11:47 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
kitty wrote:I just watched that with my kids and two of their friends...it was the most amzing, and not in a good way, thing I have ever seen! In all of the sporting events that I have watched...I have never seen anything like that. It was surreal. I personally think that there will be some people from the security force fired!
But that's unfair...the security force was outnumbered by 16,000 people!!!
yeah, but there should be enough security in place to squelch anything like that......

HOWEVER, that doesn't take the fans and players off the hook, IMHO.

I have been to games in ...oh heck 6-7 NBA arenas and there is always
a ring around the court.. where were they????

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:48 pm

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:Hmmm, Detroit....are we sure Captain Morgan or Defimoff didn't start this!

we're gonna need to do frame by frame analysis.....

(maybe Nutmeg was involved.....

)

kitty · Post by **kitty** » November 19, 2004 11:49 pm

CaptainP wrote:
kitty wrote:I just watched that with my kids and two of their friends...it was the most amzing, and not in a good way, thing I have ever seen! In all of the sporting events that I have watched...I have never seen anything like that. It was surreal. I personally think that there will be some people from the security force fired!
But that's unfair...the security force was outnumbered by 16,000 people!!!

I realize they are out numbered...but it was slowly escalating...it could have been stopped to some point if there was fast action....not pretending to know anything...but thats the way it looked to me.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » November 19, 2004 11:52 pm

ESPN is blaming the beer..... I saw lotta Ice being thrown
last I looked there was not much ice in my beer.
also In the areanas I have been a Cocktail is served in a thimble..

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » November 19, 2004 11:53 pm

kitty wrote:I realize they are out numbered...but it was slowly escalating...it could have been stopped to some point if there was fast action....not pretending to know anything...but thats the way it looked to me.

yes. fast, effective security measures could probably have prevented escalation.