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Pistons – Pacers Suspensions Announced
Posted: November 21, 2004 3:47 pm
by BottleofRum
Looks like that punk Artest will get his wish for some time off in order to promote his new CD.
Artest gets a 30 Games and Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson will be suspended 20 games apiece. Ben Wallace gets 5 games.
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/7912655
UPDATED from ESPN!
Ron Artest will not play this season. Stephen Jackson will sit 30 games, Jermaine O'Neal 25, Ben Wallace six and Anthony Johnson five. Four others received one-game suspensions and fines.
Posted: November 21, 2004 6:13 pm
by msu#1
that was premature, Artest is gone for the season
Posted: November 21, 2004 6:59 pm
by BottleofRum
msu#1 wrote:that was premature, Artest is gone for the season
Yes I just read that. Sportsline.com had it wrong, must be a bad source
The whole season for Artest, even better. No he can do a full tour promoting his new CD!
Posted: November 21, 2004 11:05 pm
by CaptainP
I have no problems with the extra long suspensions....(Artest now has beaten Spreewell for the longest ever!!!)
Here's where I disagree....Ben Wallace STARTED the whole thing, AND he also went into the stands. He only got 5 games!
Also, if no fans are arrested for this, then why are the players being punished? This wasn't just an unprovoked mugging...
Posted: November 21, 2004 11:36 pm
by ejr
I agree that Wallace should have had a longer suspension.
And let's wait to see what happens with the fans-a lot of the press is predicting that some charges will be filed, as they should be.
Posted: November 22, 2004 8:36 am
by CaribbnSoul
In NBA rules, if a fan steps onto the court without permission it is considered assault. Thats why no matter what happened to the fans who got onto the court, they got what they deserved.
Posted: November 22, 2004 8:41 am
by RAGTOP
CaribbnSoul wrote:In NBA rules, if a fan steps onto the court without permission it is considered assault. Thats why no matter what happened to the fans who got onto the court, they got what they deserved.
So if you have courtside seats (actually on the floor next to the bench) and this fight breaks out and you are simply trying to avoid the confrontation and that takes 3 feet away from your seat onto the court you deserved to be suckerpunched
Remind me never to sit there.
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:08 am
by iuparrothead
Ron Artest = lunatic
There is no better example than him.

Posted: November 22, 2004 10:17 am
by AlbatrossFlyer
RAGTOP wrote:CaribbnSoul wrote:In NBA rules, if a fan steps onto the court without permission it is considered assault. Thats why no matter what happened to the fans who got onto the court, they got what they deserved.
So if you have courtside seats (actually on the floor next to the bench) and this fight breaks out and you are simply trying to avoid the confrontation and that takes 3 feet away from your seat onto the court you deserved to be suckerpunched
Remind me never to sit there.
except that the one fan was in front of the scorer's table.....
until all the leagues start arresting fans that throw things at players, these situations will continue to happen. whether it's baseball or basketball... is it gonna take a monica sele's incident for the leagues to crack down on the fans?
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:25 am
by BottleofRum
Towards the end of the brawl a fan with a Pistons jersey ran onto the court and moved towards Artest who was on the court, it looked like the fan was about to hit him when Artest hit him first, 3 seconds later that fan got hit again by Jermaine O'Neil, that fan got what he deserved. You can run onto a court after what just happened and run at a player, let alone a player who was just involved in the fight. If that fan was running onto the court to escape the melee that is fine but it looked to me like he was running to confront Artest. Also, Stephen Jackson should have received a longer suspension IMO!
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:30 am
by phinsphan25
Wallace should have gonnten more???

For what??? Atrie fouls him that hard from behind with less than a minute to go up by 15 he should be glad he didn't get dotted in the face. I think the shove was warranted and Ben showed some restraint by doing just that.
Ugly scene? Yes! But it never should have happened and Artest is to blame.
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:35 am
by RAGTOP
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:RAGTOP wrote:CaribbnSoul wrote:In NBA rules, if a fan steps onto the court without permission it is considered assault. Thats why no matter what happened to the fans who got onto the court, they got what they deserved.
So if you have courtside seats (actually on the floor next to the bench) and this fight breaks out and you are simply trying to avoid the confrontation and that takes 3 feet away from your seat onto the court you deserved to be suckerpunched
Remind me never to sit there.
except that the one fan was in front of the scorer's table.....
until all the leagues start arresting fans that throw things at players, these situations will continue to happen. whether it's baseball or basketball... is it gonna take a monica sele's incident for the leagues to crack down on the fans?
ya but at that point in time it was such a melee that fans and players were scattered everywhere... not to mention it was a player that was in the stands before a fan was on the court. I'm not defending anyone, the fans acted just as disgraceful as the players. The league does arrest fans for throwing stuff at players, always has, it's just a difficult thing to pinpoint exactly who it is.
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:39 am
by BottleofRum
The ironic part is Artest went after the wrong fan. The guy who threw the cup was wearing the white hat (the bigger guy) but artest went after his friend (who was much smaller) first Artest wants nothing to do with Ben Wallace then he charges into the crowd and goes after the smaller fan.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/3937083/detail.html
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:42 am
by BottleofRum
phinsphan25 wrote:Wallace should have gonnten more???

For what??? Atrie fouls him that hard from behind with less than a minute to go up by 15 he should be glad he didn't get dotted in the face. I think the shove was warranted and Ben showed some restraint by doing just that.
Ugly scene? Yes! But it never should have happened and Artest is to blame.
Wallace's suspension was just and had it ended with just that shove he probally would have goten 1-3 games. But I don't think that was a hard foul by Artest. I thnk Wallace overreacted and was upset that they were losing. Needless to say, if Wallace doesn't shove Artest none of this happens so I can see the argument that Wallace should have got more games.
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:43 am
by RAGTOP
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:43 am
by TheSecretsInTheCrust
I am so tired of these TV talking heads like Steven A Smith (the gangster in a suit and tie) trying to make excuses for the players by saying "They fans prevolked them". That is such a load of crap....who is the professional here. You cannot tell me that the players were hearing anything worse than what was being yelled at Jackie Robinson. To many of today's prima donna athletes do not deserve the privledge of playing "Professional" sports. I don't think the suspensions were harsh enough. Jackson and O'Niel should have season suspensions as well. Friday night was a the saddest day in American Sports History! I am sure Jackie Robinson rolled over in his grave.
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:46 am
by BottleofRum
It would have been great if the guy Artest went after was a black belt in karate and kicked artest ass in the seats
Stephen A Smith always looks like he is p*** off and annoyed that ESPN has him answering those dumb questions

Posted: November 22, 2004 10:51 am
by phinsphan25
I look at it this way. If Artest decided not to take a nap on the scorer's table (of the home team) and go back to the huddle the worst that would have happened is insults from the crowed. He was egging on not only Wallace and the Pistons, but the fans as well.
Do you think Wallace would know that Artest would do something so stupid as go into the crowed? He got six games because of a shove? Don't blame him for Artest stupidity. I think you would have saw no suspension (for either) if they both went back to their huddle. Wallace did and Artest decided to show boat and egg on the situation.
Posted: November 22, 2004 10:57 am
by Mr Play
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Friday night was a the saddest day in American Sports History!
I can't argue with that.
Posted: November 22, 2004 11:52 am
by BottleofRum
Four Play wrote:TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Friday night was a the saddest day in American Sports History!
I can't argue with that.
It was a bad day but considering no one died I would argue other days have been worse.