BuffettNews.com

i got this in an e-mail, i dont know if its true or not, but i thought id pass it along for the greater good

> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T.

> DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809

>

> This one is being distributed all over the US.

>

> HERE'S HOW IT WORKS:

>

> You will receive a message on your answering machine or your

>pager,

>which asks you to call a number beginning with area code 809. The reason

>you're asked to call varies. It can be to receive information about a

>family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has been arrested,

>died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case,

>you are told to call the 809 number right away. Since there are so many

>new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls.

>

> If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425

>per-minute.

> Or, you'll get a long recorded message The point is, they will try

>to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges.

>Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more

>than $24,100.00.

>

> WHY IT WORKS:

> The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands

> The 809 area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to

>900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by

>U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and

>warned of charges and rates involved when you call a pay-per-call" number.

>

> There is also no requirement that the company provide a time

>period

>during which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further,

>whereas many U.S. homes that have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds

>of charges, do not work in preventing calls to the 809 area code.

>

> We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are

>asked

>to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize, just

>disregard the message.

>

> Be wary of e-mail, or calls, asking you to call an 809 area code

>number. It's important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since

>trying to fight the charges afterwards can become a real nightmare. That's

>because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local

>phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved

>and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing

>for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that

>argues they have done nothing wrong.


> Sandi Van Handel

> AT&T Field Service Manager

> (920)687-904

I have notes at w@rk but I think that 809 is also Haiti

809 is the entire Caribbean!

from www.snopes.com

Yes, this scam is real, but four important pieces of information to keep in mind are:

Not every phone number in the 809 area code is part of this scam, and calling such a number will not necessarily result in exorbitantly large charges on your phone bill. Most 809 numbers are ordinary, legitimate phone numbers.

This scam has been used with other area codes besides 809.

The amounts of money involved have been greatly exaggerated as this warning has circulated on the Internet over the past several years.

This scam is not very common; the average U.S. resident is unlikely to ever encounter it. The scheme preys upon U.S. and Canadian residents unfamiliar with the complexities of the phone system (which is most of us). We expect when we place to a call a standard area code + exchange + phone number combination (e.g., 213-555-1212), we're calling a person or entity located in the U.S. or Canada — connections outside those countries requiring the caller to first enter a country code, then a number generally different in format from the standard we're used to. However, some foreign territories and countries (such as the Dominican Republic or the British Virgin Islands) have also been assigned area codes, and therefore their phone numbers look like the "standard" phone numbers we're used to. Scammers use a variety of schemes to dupe North Americans into calling these numbers by sending messages to pagers, fax machines, e-mail addresses, or answering machines, accompanied by notifications that the recipients need to call or fax them back because:


They have won sweepstakes or lottery prizes they must call to claim.

A family member is desperately ill or injured.

A bill or credit card debt is past due and needs to straightened out immediately to avoid collection action or an endangered credit rating.

They are being offered solicitations to become "mystery shoppers" who will be well compensated for a few hours work per day. (The "applicants" are kept on the phone through a lengthy sign-up procedure that never results in anyone's getting a job.)

They are being considered for employment and must transmit lengthy forms covering quotations on proposed jobs or information about their services and prices. Once the victim places a call, he is connected to a fax machine, lengthy recorded message, or a pay-per-call service with a hefty up-front fee, all intended to keep him on the line as long as possible while the clock ticks and the charges mount. The scammer's foreign phone company then bills the victim via his local phone company, splitting the monies collected with the scammers and leaving the victim little or no recourse since the foreign phone company operates outside U.S. jurisidiction and is therefore not subject to U.S. laws (especially regulations requiring the operators of pay-per-call services notify callers in advance how much they will be charged for each call and offer them an opportunity to hang up without incurring any charges).

As mentioned above, the amounts of money involved in these scams have been greatly exaggerated (probably by computer-introduced transcription errors) to the point that readers are now warned they may be charged more than $2,400 per minute if they fall for this scam! Actually, a victim might realistically be taken for $25 to $100, but not thousands of dollars. This scheme works a variety of Caribbean area codes, not just the 809 area code mentioned above (which now belongs exclusively to the Dominican Republic, the British Virgin Islands having switched to 284), but 809 seems to work especially well because many people associate it with toll-free 800 numbers and believe they will incur no charges for calling such a number. This scam took off when the government cracked down on domestic 900-number abuses several years ago, but it isn't especially common any more, and most consumer watchdog organizations report they receive far, far more calls from people concerned about the e-mailed warnings than from actual victims.

Alerts have been been posted at the site of the National Fraud Information Center alerting businessmen especially to "faxback" solicitations employing the "809" callback trick (such as one sprung on a newspaper that received a call from entities representing a purported hotel developer in the Dominican Republic asking for advertising rate quotes and claiming that "start-up pressures prevent us at this time from using the mails" to request rate cards).

The Better Business Bureau strongly recommends that no matter how consumers are approached, if they are asked to respond to an "809" area code call, they should investigate further or simply disregard the message. (There is, of course, nothing wrong with talking to people who live in this area code if you happen to know them. All cautions regarding the 809 code apply only to solicitations to contact folks unknown to you.) If you have to call an a number in an area code that's unfamiliar to you, you can use an Area Decoder to check it out first.

I'll just say screw it.......... I'm not paying.........

Anyone who would be stupid enough to call a long distance number just because someone told them to, deserves to get screwed over.

It doesn't matter to me if someone calls to tell me I won a prize since I never enter anything of that nature and I know it's not a family member since they are all present and accounted for so I'm not likely to return the call. Having said that, I worked for a company some years ago that informed the department I was in that we were going to be laid off and my boss gave me a number to call that started with 809... I wonder what that phone bill was like. A machine answered and started down a long and very funny account of some Brits trials on his holiday in the Carib. I think I was on the phone for about 25 minutes, just laughing and I didn't worry about it since my boss told me to call!