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Posted: December 13, 2004 5:06 pm
by land_shark3
tikitatas wrote:Why does it cost so much more?
Without digging up all the old files...

It has to do with the court process, appeals process, special holding area, extra guards to watch over death row, etc. etc. etc....

Posted: December 13, 2004 5:08 pm
by ph4ever
Elrod wrote:
land_shark3 wrote:If I'm not mistaken, he received the Federal death penalty. That means he can't appeal to the state; greatly limiting the time he can spend in red tape limbo world.
The case was tried in a California court, not federal court.
ph4ever wrote:On the news last week they were saying that if he's given the death penalty in California he automatically is up for an appeal.
Most (if not all) states have an automatic appeal in death penalty cases.


in some states can't the inmate request that no appeals be filed?? I want to say I've heard of this happening.

Posted: December 13, 2004 5:12 pm
by ph4ever
I just heard that California has over 600 people on death row but has only executed 10 in the past 10 years.

Posted: December 13, 2004 5:13 pm
by Elrod
ph4ever wrote:in some states can't the inmate request that no appeals be filed?? I want to say I've heard of this happening.
I've heard of that type of request also.

It's rare, but it has happened.

Posted: December 13, 2004 5:14 pm
by PHBeerman
ph4ever wrote:I just heard that California has over 600 people on death row but has only executed 10 in the past 10 years.
Yeah next to Mass, CA is the biggest hippie state in the Union. All this means is that he will get his own cell.

Posted: December 13, 2004 8:31 pm
by ragtopW
PHBeerman wrote:I'd shoot the bastard for free.
I still think a great fund raising chance is missed...
we could all apply for tags.. and the winner gets the kill.. :pirate:

Posted: December 13, 2004 8:56 pm
by Sidew13
Maybe OJ Simpson will find the Peterson killers as he searches for the killers of his wife :roll:

Posted: December 13, 2004 9:11 pm
by chalksoperations
When Aileen Wournos received her final judgement here in Florida it was after she told the court she had enough of the appeal process. That was the last one I recall saying "Just get on with it".

Posted: December 13, 2004 9:25 pm
by ragtopW
Elrod wrote:
ph4ever wrote:in some states can't the inmate request that no appeals be filed?? I want to say I've heard of this happening.
I've heard of that type of request also.

It's rare, but it has happened.
I think they are doing that for a appeal on the insanity plea..
" I must be nuts if I ask you to kill me" :evil: :evil:

Posted: December 13, 2004 11:13 pm
by Air M'Ville Cap'n
I heard on the radio tonight that there are like 640 people on California's death row and they have only executed 10 or so since they reinstated the death penalty back in the late 70's. If they stay the course Peterson will probably die of old age in prison

Posted: December 13, 2004 11:18 pm
by tommcat327
Elrod wrote:
ph4ever wrote:in some states can't the inmate request that no appeals be filed?? I want to say I've heard of this happening.
I've heard of that type of request also.

It's rare, but it has happened.
i think it's in CT,another hippie state,someone just asked to be put to death and it is being appealed by a bunch of hippie activists who oppose the death penalty.this guy was sentenced to death and wishes to be killed but a bunch of stupid pathetic freaks are dragging it out :roll:

Posted: December 14, 2004 12:27 am
by ejr
Oddly enough, research also shows it costs more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life.

As for the delays in executions, one need only to look to Illinois (and elsewhere) where DNA evidence and new technology has overturned convictions of numerous Death Row inmates to understand the need for retraint.

And yes, I know I'll get jumped on for this, and yes, I am opposed to the death penalty, but I just don't understand those that choose to celebrate executions (and I am not accusing any of you of celebrating). I served on the jury of a murder case, and yes, we did convict, and, as the jurors today said, it is not a reason to celebrate. I firmly believe that Scott Peterson is guilty, but I can only imagine how agonizingly difficult this has been for each and every one of those jurors.

Posted: December 14, 2004 12:34 am
by ragtopW
ejr wrote:Oddly enough, research also shows it costs more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life.

As for the delays in executions, one need only to look to Illinois (and elsewhere) where DNA evidence and new technology has overturned convictions of numerous Death Row inmates to understand the need for retraint.

And yes, I know I'll get jumped on for this, and yes, I am opposed to the death penalty, but I just don't understand those that choose to celebrate executions (and I am not accusing any of you of celebrating). I served on the jury of a murder case, and yes, we did convict, and, as the jurors today said, it is not a reason to celebrate. I firmly believe that Scott Peterson is guilty, but I can only imagine how agonizingly difficult this has been for each and every one of those jurors.
I am totally pro death penalty but would never celebrate a death..
my thing is people that say It doesnot scare they did a survey
yeah the way things are and Scott Peterson will die old and toothless
If they had a special appeals and did him (and others)
in less than a year. there would be a lot less of this kind of thing..
at least less two time losers. :pirate:

Posted: December 14, 2004 12:37 am
by Desdamona
All I can say is, I hope to hell he's guilty...

Posted: December 14, 2004 12:42 am
by ragtopW
Desdamona wrote:All I can say is, I hope to hell he's guilty...
I think what did it for me was the girlfriend thing
when He called Her from "Paris" and lied to Her
I was like Motive and Now he is a liar.. what else has he covered up???

Posted: December 14, 2004 1:06 am
by sholleran
In the end, remember this is a circumstantial case (although the value of eye witnesses is far from what it is cracked up to be), with very limited physical evidence based on published accounts. Be that as it may -

I'm vicerally inclined to swift execution of those guilty of vicious, cruel, and true cold-blooded murder. . .

I too did a speech on the death penalty that showed the monitary costs of incarceration were many times less than the death penalty process, concluding that the appeals process was overly lengthy . . .

and yet the constant stream of miscarriages of "justice" seen in Illinois and other states seems to make it obvious that our courts, while the best in the world, are so dreadfully biased and error prone that any irrevokable act of punishment, such as execution, is inexcusable. For me, the key is "those guilty" - how sure is sure enough they ARE guilty? Red handed isn't sure enough, sometimes.

And for those who deep in their hearts seek revenge for the innocents victimized by some black-hearted bastard like Scottie, they could take satisfaction in thinking of them in the general prison population, being victimized daily in much more personal and painful ways than their own victims, for year, after year, after year.

Posted: December 14, 2004 1:26 am
by sonofabeach
In a way I was hoping he'd get life so he'd be with the general population and maybe get what Jeffrey Dahmer got.
He'd prolly die quicker that way.

Posted: December 14, 2004 8:59 am
by ragtopW
sonofabeach wrote:In a way I was hoping he'd get life so he'd be with the general population and maybe get what Jeffrey Dahmer got.
He'd prolly die quicker that way.
the problem is many of the High profile inmates are kept away from Gen Pop. Or maybe his new cellmate will need a "friend" :roll: :roll:

Posted: December 14, 2004 9:10 am
by comemonday
chalksoperations wrote:When Aileen Wournos received her final judgement here in Florida it was after she told the court she had enough of the appeal process. That was the last one I recall saying "Just get on with it".
I think Timothy McVeigh (sp?) (the Oklahoma City Bomber) asked to "get on w/ it" also. But as far as SP is concerned, I believe he's guilty, but I'm surprised that they gave him the death penalty when it was such a circumstantial case--I would've thought some juror would have had the "lingering doubt" thing that allows them to go w/ life in prison.

Posted: December 14, 2004 9:19 am
by rednekkPH
I saw on the news this morning that he's on 24-hour suicide watch. How idiotic is that - god forbid he'd do the state's work for them :roll: