Sail On....Those we lost in '04

[Cubbie Bear]

Here, a roll call of those we lost in 2004. (Cause of death of younger notables when available.)


JANUARY:


Brian Gibson, 59. Director of acclaimed films including "What's Love Got To Do with It?" Jan. 4. Cancer.


James E. "Doc" Counsilman, 83. Innovative swim coach, led Indiana University to six NCAA (news - web sites) championships and coached 48 Olympians including Mark Spitz (news - web sites). Jan. 4.


Michael Straight, 87. Former New Republic publisher; onetime spy recruit who helped unmask Anthony Blunt. Jan. 4.


John Toland, 91. Won 1971 Pulitzer for nonfiction for "The Rising Sun," on the Japanese empire during World War II. Jan. 4.


Tug McGraw, 59. Relief pitcher with Mets, Phillies; known for slogan "You Gotta Believe." Father of country music star Tim McGraw. Jan. 5. Brain cancer.


Norman Heatley, 92. British scientist whose work on penicillin production helped save countless lives. Jan. 5.





Francesco Scavullo, 82. Fashion photographer who made beautiful women even more so; shot Cosmopolitan covers for decades. Jan. 6.

Ingrid Thulin, 77. Swedish actress acclaimed for work with Ingmar Bergman ("Wild Strawberries," "Brink of Life"). Jan. 7.

Alfred Pugh, 108. Last known combat-wounded U.S. veteran of World War I. Jan. 7.

Thomas Kindness, 74. Six-term Ohio congressman. Jan. 8.

Philip Geyelin, 80. Pulitzer-winning journalist, credited with turning Washington Post editorial page against Vietnam War. Jan. 9.

Spalding Gray, 62. Actor-writer who laid bare his life in acclaimed monologues like "Swimming to Cambodia." Jan. 10. Apparent suicide.

Harold Shipman, 57. British doctor blamed for killing at least 215 elderly patients. Jan. 13. Hanged himself in prison.

David N. Henderson, 82. Eight-term North Carolina congressman; helped create Cape Lookout National Seashore. Jan. 13.

Uta Hagen, 84. Actress who dazzled Broadway audiences for more than 50 years, particularly as brutal Martha in Edward Albee's "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" Jan. 14.

Ray Stark, 88. Hollywood power broker; produced "Funny Girl," "The Way We Were." Jan. 17.

Harry "The Cat" Brecheen, 89. St. Louis Cardinals pitcher, won three games in 1946 World Series (news - web sites). Jan. 17.

Harry Claiborne, 86. Federal judge, was impeached and removed after conviction for filing false tax returns. Jan. 19.

Jerry Nachman, 57. Colorful journalist; editor of the New York Post, later vice president and host on MSNBC. Jan. 20. Cancer.

Bernard Punsly, 80. Last surviving member of the movies' "Dead End Kids." Jan. 20.

Ann Miller, 81. Fast-tapped her way to movie stardom in musicals like "On the Town," "Easter Parade" and "Kiss Me Kate"; dazzled Broadway in "Sugar Babies." Jan. 22.

Bob Keeshan, 76. Gently entertained generations of youngsters as TV's walrus-mustachioed Captain Kangaroo and became an outspoken opponent of violence in children's television. Jan. 23.

Helmut Newton, 83. Acclaimed fashion photographer who was a trailblazer in exploring power, gender roles and an icy sexuality in his pictures. Jan. 23.

Adella Wotherspoon, 100. Believed to be last survivor of 1904 sinking of the excursion ferry General Slocum that killed more than 1,000 in New York. Jan. 26.

Jack Paar, 85. Made the "The Tonight Show" the talk show everybody talked about, setting the stage for Johnny Carson and many others. Jan. 27.

Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch, 80. NFL Hall of Famer; earned nickname for erratic running style. Jan. 28.

Former Navy Cmdr. Lloyd "Pete" Bucher, 76. Helped his USS Pueblo crew survive brutal captivity in North Korea (news - web sites), then faced criticism back home. Jan. 28.

Louie B. Nunn, 79. As Kentucky governor, oversaw revamping of mental-health system. Jan. 29.

FEBRUARY:

Warren Zimmermann, 69. Last U.S. ambassador to Yugoslavia before its breakup. Feb. 3.

Frances Partridge, 103. British diarist, part of the literary Bloomsbury Group. Feb. 5.

Retired Adm. Thomas Moorer, 91. Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; headed Navy during Vietnam War. Feb. 5.

Jerome F. Lederer, 101. Aviation safety expert, aided in Charles Lindbergh's trans-Atlantic flight, NASA (news - web sites) missions. Feb. 6.

Jozef Lenart, 80. Former Czechoslovak prime minister; cleared of treason over role in 1968 Soviet-led invasion. Feb. 11.

Jose Lopez Portillo, 83. Governed Mexico from 1976 to 1982, through oil-driven boom to debt-induced bust. Feb. 17.

Frank del Olmo, 55. Pulitzer-winning Los Angeles Times journalist, voice for Hispanics. Feb. 19. Apparent heart attack.

Daniel J. Boorstin, 89. Former Librarian of Congress; million-selling historian, social critic. Feb. 28.

Fred Benninger, 86. Gambling executive; helped build some of Las Vegas' best-known properties. Feb. 29.

MARCH

Marge Schott, 75. Tough-talking owner of Cincinnati Reds; repeatedly suspended for offensive remarks. March 2.

Mercedes McCambridge, 87. Oscar-winning actress; provided demon-possessed girl's voice in "The Exorcist." March 2.

Mike O'Callaghan, 74. Nevada governor in 1970s. March 5.

Paul Winfield, 62. Oscar-nominated actor ("Sounder") known for versatility on stage, screen. March 7.

Abul Abbas, 56. Palestinian who planned hijacking of the Achille Lauro passenger ship. March 8. Natural causes in U.S. custody.

Robert D. Orr, 86. Championed educational reform as Indiana governor in 1980s. March 10.

Sidney L. James, 97. Founding editor of Sports Illustrated. March 11.

William H. Pickering, 93. Director of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory; oversaw launch of first U.S. satellite in 1958. March 15.

John "J.J." Jackson, 62. Helped usher in music video era as early MTV personality. March 17.

Former Queen Juliana, 94. Reigned 32 years as Dutch queen. March 20.

John C. West, 81. Former South Carolina governor; helped smooth racial tensions after patrolmen killed three black protesters. March 21.

Sheik Ahmed Yassin, around 70. Founder of Islamic militant group Hamas; killed by Israelis. March 22.

Joshua Eilberg, 83. Six-term Pennsylvania congressman; on House Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) during Nixon impeachment hearings. March 24.

J. Edward Roush, 83. Indiana congressman for 16 years; beaten by Dan Quayle (news - web sites) in 1976. March 26.

Jan Berry, 62. Half of surf music duo Jan & Dean ("Dead Man's Curve"). March 26.

Sir Peter Ustinov, 82. Won two Oscars (news - web sites) for an acting career that ranged from the evil emperor Nero in "Quo Vadis" to Agatha Christie detective Hercule Poirot. March 28.

Alistair Cooke, 95. Urbane host of television's "Masterpiece Theatre"; interpreter of U.S. culture for decades on BBC's "Letter from America." March 30.

APRIL:

Carrie Snodgress, 57. Oscar-nominated actress ("Diary of a Mad Housewife"). April 1. Heart failure.

Fred Olivi, 82. Copiloted the plane that dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki. April 8.

Phil Sokolof, 82. Nebraska multimillionaire, used wealth to press for better nutrition. April 15.

Jim Cantalupo, 60. McDonald's CEO, helped engineer turnaround by focusing on service, healthier food. April 19. Apparent heart attack.

Frank Morrison, 98. Governor of Nebraska during tumultuous '60s. April 19.

John Maynard Smith, 84. Leading British evolutionary biologist. April 19.

Norris McWhirter, 78. Co-founder of Guinness Book of Records. April 19.

Mary McGrory, 85. Washington Post columnist; won Pulitzer for Watergate writings. April 21.

Pat Tillman, 27. NFL player who traded in multimillion-dollar contract to serve as Army Ranger in Afghanistan (news - web sites). April 22. Killed in action.

Estee Lauder, 97. Built multimillion-dollar cosmetics empire. April 24.

Hubert Selby Jr., 75. Wrote acclaimed 1964 novel "Last Exit to Brooklyn." April 26.

Gaetano Badalamenti, 80. Once described as "boss of all bosses" of the Sicilian Mafia. 80. April 29.

MAY:

Marvin Runyon, 79. Postmaster general in the 1990s; stressed customer service, tight budgeting. May 3.

Darrell Johnson, 75. Managed Boston Red Sox to the 1975 World Series. May 3.

Retired Gen. Robert F. Seedlock, 91. Led arduous construction of the Burma Road during World War II. May 5.

Elizabeth Ann Swift Cronin, 63. One of those held hostage at U.S. Embassy in Iran. May 7.

Alan King, 76. Witty comedian, known for tirades against everyday suburban life. May 9.

Akhmad Kadyrov, 52. Kremlin-backed leader of Russia's troubled Chechnya (news - web sites) province. May 9. Assassinated in bombing.

Paul F. Wehrle, 82. Disease expert; helped battle smallpox, polio. May 11.

Col. Robert Morgan, 85. Commander of famed Memphis Belle B-17 bomber during World War II. May 15.

Tony Randall, 84. Comic actor; the fastidious Felix Unger in "The Odd Couple" and fussbudget pal in several Rock Hudson-Doris Day movies. May 17.

Marjorie Courtenay-Latimer, 97. In 1938 she discovered a live coelacanth, a prehistoric fish thought to be extinct. May 17.

Arnold Beckman, 104. Prolific inventor of scientific instruments; philanthropist. May 18.

Elvin Ray Jones, 76. Renowned jazz drummer; in John Coltrane's quartet. May 18.

Jack Eckerd, 91. Formed drugstore empire that bears his name; philanthropist. May 19.

Samuel Johnson, 76. Built family's SC Johnson wax company into consumer products giant. May 22.

David Dellinger, 88. Peace activist; one of Chicago Seven tried for protests during 1968 Democratic National Convention. May 25.

Roger W. Straus Jr., 87. Co-founded publishing house Farrar, Straus & Giroux. May 25.

Sam Dash, 79. Attorney whose questions during Senate Watergate hearings made him a household name. May 29.

Archibald Cox, 92. The special prosecutor fired by President Nixon for refusing to curtail his Watergate investigation in the "Saturday Night Massacre." May 29.

Ramona Trinidad Iglesias Jordan, 114. Puerto Rican woman recognized as world's oldest living person. May 29.

Alberta Martin, 97. One of the last widows of a Civil War veteran; belle of Confederate history buffs. May 31.

JUNE:

William Manchester, 82. Historian who brought a novelist's flair to biographies of such giants as Winston Churchill, John F. Kennedy. June 1.

Dr. Charles Kelman, 74. Developed outpatient cataract operation that has helped millions. June 1.

Frances Shand Kydd, 67. Princess Diana's mother. June 3.

Ronald Reagan, 93. The cheerful crusader who devoted his presidency to winning the Cold War, trying to scale back government and making people believe it was "morning again in America." June 5.

James M. Roche, 97. As General Motors CEO, helped promote equal opportunity. June 6.

Ray Charles, 73. Transcendent talent who erased musical boundaries with hits such as "What'd I Say," "Georgia on My Mind" and "I Can't Stop Loving You." June 10.

Robert Teeter, 65. Influential Republican pollster; worked in several presidential races. June 13.

Al Lapin Jr., 76. Co-founded International House of Pancakes in 1958. June 16.

Clayton Kirkpatrick, 89. Oversaw vast changes as editor of Chicago Tribune. June 19.

Mattie Stepanek, 13. Child poet whose inspirational verse made him a best-selling writer ("Heartsongs") and a prominent voice for muscular dystrophy sufferers. June 22.

Bob Bemer, 84. Computer pioneer; published early warnings of the Y2K problem. June 22.

JULY:

Marlon Brando, 80. Revolutionized American acting with "A Streetcar Named Desire"; created the iconic character of Vito Corleone in "The Godfather." July 1.

Isabel Sanford, 86. "Weezie" on "The Jeffersons." July 9.

Laurance Rockefeller, 94. Conservationist, philanthropist; one of six children of John D. Rockefeller Jr. July 11.

Carlos Kleiber, 74. Celebrated German-born conductor. July 13

Charles W. Sweeney, 84. Piloted the plane that dropped an atomic bomb on Nagasaki. July 15.

George Busbee, 76. Georgia governor in 1975-83, campaigned as "a workhorse, not a showhorse." July 16.

Robert Smylie, 89. Three-term Idaho governor; got sales tax passed. July 17.

David A. Wallace, 87. Urban planner, revived Baltimore's Inner Harbor. July 19.

Anne McGill Gorsuch Burford, 62. Reagan's Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites) chief; quit under fire from environmentalists. July 18.

Richard Bloch, 78. Co-founded H&R Block, world's largest tax preparer. July 21.

Ed Lewis, 86. Won Nobel in 1995 for studies into how genes regulate body development. July 21.

Illinois Jacquet, 81. Saxophonist who played with nearly every jazz luminary of his time. July 22.

Wilton Mkwayi, 81. Apartheid foe, imprisoned alongside former South African President Nelson Mandela. July 23.

Fred LaRue, 75. Special assistant to John Mitchell, Nixon's attorney general; served a prison term for Watergate. July 24.

Francis Crick, 88. Nobel Prize-winning scientist who with James Watson discovered the structure of DNA. July 28.

AUGUST:

Alexandra Scott, 8. Cancer patient who started Alex's Lemonade Stand charity. Aug. 1.

Henri Cartier-Bresson, 95. Acclaimed French photographer whose pictures defined the mid-20th century and inspired generations to follow. Aug. 3. Rick James, 56. Funk legend known for 1981 hit "Super Freak." Aug. 6.

"Red" Adair, 89. Celebrated oil field firefighter, inspired John Wayne film "Hellfighters." Aug. 7.

Fay Wray, 96. The damsel held atop the Empire State Building by the ape in "King Kong." Aug. 8.

Julia Child, 91. Brought the intricacies of French cuisine to Americans through her television series and books. Aug. 13.

Czeslaw Milosz, 93. Polish poet and Nobel laureate known for his intellectual and emotional works about some of the worst cruelties of the 20th century. Aug. 14.

William D. Ford, 77. Fifteen-term Michigan congressman; helped to expand educational opportunities. Aug. 14.

Paul Ngei, 81. Hero of Kenya's independence movement revolt against British colonial rule. Aug. 15.

Sune Bergstroem, 88. Swedish scientist, shared 1982 Nobel in medicine. Aug. 15.

Hiram L. Fong, 97. First Asian-American elected to Senate, representing Hawaii for three terms. Aug. 18.

Elmer Bernstein, 82. Oscar-winning composer, scored such classics as "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The Great Escape." Aug. 18.

Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, 78. Psychiatrist who revolutionized the way the world looks at the terminally ill with "On Death and Dying." Aug. 24.

Laura Branigan, 47. Grammy-nominated singer; had 1982 platinum hit "Gloria." Aug. 26. Brain aneurysm.

Fred L. Whipple, 97. Harvard astronomer who proposed the "dirty snowball" theory that revolutionized the study of comets. Aug. 30.

SEPTEMBER:

Herbert H. Haft, 84. Multimillionaire retailer; offered goods from books to prescription drugs at a discount. Sept. 1.

Kirk Fordice, 70. Hard-nosed businessman who in 1992 became Mississippi's first Republican governor in more than 100 years. Sept. 7.

Richard G. Butler, 86. Notorious white supremacist; dubbed "elder statesman of American hate." Sept. 8.

Brock Adams, 77. Transportation secretary under President Carter; represented Washington state in House, Senate. Sept. 10.

Fred Ebb, about 76. Wrote lyrics for "Chicago" and "Cabaret" as well as "New York, New York." Sept. 11.

James David Barber, 74. Political scientist, wrote influential book "The Presidential Character: Predicting Performance in the White House." Sept. 12.

Reynaldo Garza, 89. First Hispanic federal judge, appointed in 1961. Sept. 14.

Johnny Ramone, 55. Co-founded supremely influential punk band "The Ramones." Sept. 15. Prostate cancer (news - web sites).

Marvin Mitchelson, 76. Hollywood divorce lawyer, pioneered the "palimony" concept. Sept. 18.

Russ Meyer, 82. Producer-director who helped spawn the "skin flick" — and later gained a measure of critical respect — for such films as "Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!" Sept. 18.

Eddie Adams, 71. Photojournalist who took the Pulitzer Prize-winning Associated Press photo of a guerrilla being executed in a Saigon street. Sept. 19.

Francoise Sagan, 69. French author, famous in her teens for the best-selling "Bonjour Tristesse." Sept. 24.

Marvin Davis, 79. Billionaire oilman, philanthropist and, in the 1980s, owner of 20th Century Fox. Sept. 25.

Geoffrey Beene, 77. Designer whose classic styles put him at the forefront of American fashion. Sept. 28.

OCTOBER:

Richard Avedon, 81. Redefined fashion photography as an art form while achieving acclaim through his stark portraits of the powerful. Oct. 1.

Janet Leigh, 77. Wholesome beauty whose shocking murder in the Alfred Hitchcock thriller "Psycho" is a landmark of film. Oct. 3.

Gordon Cooper, 77. Youngest of the original seven Mercury astronauts; achieved many key firsts including first astronaut in space for 24 hours. Oct. 4.

Rodney Dangerfield, 82. The bug-eyed comic whose self-deprecating "I don't get no respect" brought him stardom in clubs, television and movies. Oct. 5.

Maurice Wilkins, 88. British scientist who shared the 1962 Nobel for groundbreaking work on DNA. Oct. 5.

Johnny Kelley, 97. The heart and soul of the Boston Marathon, running it a record 61 times, winning twice. Oct. 6.

Jacques Derrida, 74. World-renowned thinker who founded the school of literary analysis known as deconstructionism. Oct. 8.

Maxime A. Faget, 83. NASA engineer who designed the original spacecraft for Project Mercury. Oct. 9.

Christopher Reeve, 52. "Superman" actor who became the nation's most recognizable spokesman for spinal cord research after a paralyzing accident. Oct. 10.

Ken Caminiti, 41. Baseball MVP in 1996; stirred controversy by admitting to steroid use. Oct. 10 Accidental drug overdose.

Martin M. Kaplan, 89. Secretary-general of Nobel Peace Prize-winning Pugwash conferences on disarmament. Oct. 16.

Pierre Salinger, 79. JFK's press secretary; later top correspondent for ABC News. Oct. 16.

Paul H. Nitze, 97. Arms control adviser who served under eight presidents and helped frame the Cold War policy of containment. Oct. 19.

Robert Merrill, 87. Metropolitan Opera (news - web sites) superstar equally at home singing the national anthem at Yankee Stadium. Oct. 23.

Vaughn Meader, 68. Gained instant fame satirizing John F. Kennedy in the multimillion-selling album "The First Family"; his star plummeted after the assassination. Oct. 29.

Edward Oliver Leblanc, 81. Former Dominica premier; helped the Caribbean island in its transition to independence. Oct. 29.

NOVEMBER:

Theo van Gogh, 47. Outspoken Dutch filmmaker; great-grandnephew of Vincent. Nov. 2. Murdered, apparently by Islamic radicals.

Sheik Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, 86. Longtime ruler of United Arab Emirates; built it into a high-tech crossroads. Nov. 2.

Howard Keel, 85. Broad-shouldered baritone in glittery MGM musicals ("Kiss Me Kate," "Annie Get Your Gun"); later on "Dallas." Nov. 7.

Yasser Arafat, 75. Palestinian guerrilla leader turned Nobel Peace Prize winner, but also reviled as a sponsor of terrorism. Nov. 11.

O.D.B., 35. The rapper (real name: Russell Jones) whose unique rhymes, wild lifestyle made him one of the most vivid characters in hip-hop. Nov. 13.

Thomas M. Foglietta, 75. Six-term Philadelphia congressman, ambassador to Italy. Nov. 13.

Elmer L. Andersen, 95. Liberal Republican who as governor of Minnesota pressed for human rights. Nov. 15.

Reed Irvine, 82. Founder of the conservative watchdog group Accuracy in Media. Nov. 16.

Bobby Frank Cherry, 74. Ex-Klansman convicted in 1963 Birmingham, Ala., church bombing that killed four black girls. Nov. 18.

Cy Coleman, 75. Composer of Broadway musicals ("Sweet Charity," "City of Angels"); pop songs ("The Best Is Yet to Come"). Nov. 18.

Sir John Vane, 77. Shared 1982 Nobel in medicine for work discovering how aspirin works. Nov. 19.

Fred Hale Sr., 113. Documented as the world's oldest man. Nov. 19.

Ancel Keys, 100. Scientist who invented the K rations eaten by soldiers in World War II and helped show how fat is linked to heart attacks. Nov. 20.

Joseph John Sisco, 85. Diplomat whose State Department career spanned five presidential administrations; involved in Henry Kissinger's shuttle diplomacy. Nov. 23.

Arthur Hailey, 84. Best-selling author whose novel "Airport" inspired a run of big disaster movies. Nov. 24.

Philippe de Broca, 71. French director whose 1960s films "The Man from Rio" and "King of Hearts" brought him wide renown. Nov. 26.

The Rev. Billy James Hargis, 79. Leading radio, television evangelist, anti-communist crusader. Nov. 27.

DECEMBER:

Prince Bernhard, 93. German-born father of the Netherlands' Queen Beatrix who earned the respect of the Dutch during the Nazi occupation. Dec. 1.

Dame Alicia Markova, 94. One of the 20th century's greatest ballerinas and a co-founder of the English National Ballet. Dec. 2.

Josef Schwammberger, 92. Sadistic Nazi labor-camp commander; hid for 40 years in Argentina before his capture. Dec. 3.

Jay Van Andel, 80. Billionaire co-founder of Amway Corp., which sells household products through independent, mom-and-pop distributors. Dec. 7.

"Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, 38. Acclaimed guitarist with Grammy-nominated heavy-metal band Pantera and more recently Damageplan. Dec. 8. Shot to death during a performance.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

Know why lists like this bother me? It's missing a couple of hundred names of people who gave their lives fighting for this country, but who aren't deemed "famous" or "notable"..... p*** me off, big time.

My irritation's not aimed at you, CB. Thanks for posting.

[mikess]

And those 120,000+ of our island freinds lost this week......

and our own family and freinds......more important then those celebrities up there. ^^^^^

My irritation's not aimed at you, CB. Thanks for posting.

Dito

[PHAW Webmistress]

Know why lists like this bother me? It's missing a couple of hundred names of people who gave their lives fighting for this country, but who aren't deemed "famous" or "notable"..... p*** me off, big time.

My irritation's not aimed at you, CB. Thanks for posting.

http://www.militarycity.com/valor/honor.html

[PHAW Webmistress]

Stanley Juszczyk

[Parrot Monkey]

And those 120,000+ of our island freinds lost this week......

and our own family and freinds......more important then those celebrities up there. ^^^^^

Very true... Also, don't forget the casualties of the 4+ hurricanes.

[mexcooker12]

RIP My three legged dog Elmo

[rednekkPH]

Know why lists like this bother me? It's missing a couple of hundred names of people who gave their lives fighting for this country, but who aren't deemed "famous" or "notable"..... p*** me off, big time.

Then why don't you compile a list of your own to honor our fallen soldiers and post it here. Or is it just easier to complain about someone else's work?

[mikess]

And those 120,000+ of our island freinds lost this week......

and our own family and freinds......more important then those celebrities up there. ^^^^^

Very true... Also, don't forget the casualties of the 4+ hurricanes.

Yep...a lot of people taken by the sea this year......

[PHAW Webmistress]

Know why lists like this bother me? It's missing a couple of hundred names of people who gave their lives fighting for this country, but who aren't deemed "famous" or "notable"..... p*** me off, big time.

Then why don't you compile a list of your own to honor our fallen soldiers and post it here. Or is it just easier to complain about someone else's work?

Rednekk - I think you misconstrued SGH's meaning - and she did state that her remarks were not directed at Cubbie.

[rednekkPH]

Know why lists like this bother me? It's missing a couple of hundred names of people who gave their lives fighting for this country, but who aren't deemed "famous" or "notable"..... p*** me off, big time.

Then why don't you compile a list of your own to honor our fallen soldiers and post it here. Or is it just easier to complain about someone else's work?

Rednekk - I think you misconstrued SGH's meaning - and she did state that her remarks were not directed at Cubbie.

I know it weren't directed at Cubbie. it was directed to whoever it was that authored the list (and ones like it), however.

I was merely making a suggestion as to a possibly more constructive use of energy, that's all.

[Cubbie Bear]

No fighting allowed on my post.

I understand what Schooly said. However, it is also a part of finishing this trip around the sun by remembering the "famous" as well.

And a post honoring the brave is a wonderful idea. As is a post (which I think we have, rmembering those is SE Asia)

[jollymon345]

I am sure that Cubbie did not take the time to edit this list or personally write this list but IMO when I see a post on here with the words Sail On, I usually think of it as our own way of sending our respect to that person and/or his family. In this list I see plenty of people who deserve to Sail On and alot of people on this list who don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath let alone be allowed on the same planet. I don't think the founder of Hamas should be mentioned in the same breath as Pat Tillman.

Thanks for you effort Cubbie because I forgot about many of these people and did not know about some of them.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

Know why lists like this bother me? It's missing a couple of hundred names of people who gave their lives fighting for this country, but who aren't deemed "famous" or "notable"..... p*** me off, big time.

Then why don't you compile a list of your own to honor our fallen soldiers and post it here. Or is it just easier to complain about someone else's work?

you missed the point.... the press in this country cares more about including a Nazi who died than even a token mention of the men and women who have died in Iraq, except for Pat Tillman, and he gets a mention because he was a football player.

[12vmanRick]

I lost a friend this year in April.. He is still missed daily

[ragtopW]

sail on and yes I had forgotten about some of them..

[Sam]

Actualy I would consider a few (or more of those names) no loss what-so- ever and to bad the lowlifes did not have the courtesy to leave this world long before. Yassir Arrafat is a loss? Give me a PHREAKING BREAK!!!

I agree that the names of every man and woman who gave their all in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere should be there......Yassir A$$HO!E should not be..he is no great loss. He was Terrorist (with acapital "T") plain and simple, he was more or less the founding father of modern day terrorism............I could name 3 more names that were personally most important TO ME that would be on that list before any single one of those Hollywood and political podunks.....My Mother,...My Father,....and My Brother.....but that is just my personal opinion, on this last merry go round trip around the sun. I do not consider the death of any terrorist or anyone that murdered or is responsible for the murder of innocent men, women, and children, to be any loss....great or small.

I am not knocking the posting of the list...or the poster.

I will knock the SOBLEEP who made/created the list into few time zones away, though, for leaving out the most important people and forgetting them and placing those plastic podunks and Terrs at the top!

Perhaps it was the list creator's vision not to rank professionals with amateurs...but that still does not explain why that rat BLEEP Terrorist Mexican rat looking murdering BLEEP son of a pig fornicator Yassir Arrafat is on that list.( among others on that list! )
No I do not expect my personal family to make that list but I would certainly expect the names of all my brothers and sisters to be on it before some even attempts to claim a known Terrorist is a loss to the world.
Makes me wonder just why the good guys even bother to fight at times ...let the terrs have everything and do what they want to every innocent man woman and child and let them wonder where the Good guys went.... but Good guys aren't like that. They cannot afford to be..... yet they give their lives and are quickly forgotten, by everyone other than their buds, their friends, and their family and loved ones or those who wish to use their deaths as a political tool. Yet some Mexican Rat looking SOBLEEP son of a pig fornicator is remembered and his death is claimed as a loss.

Pardon me while I see something wrong with this picture.....and go puke!

[kurt]

Now THAT'S A COOL CAT!

[ragtopW]

lets not forget the loss of ALL the pholks who let us sleep at night
the military, EMTS, firefighters, and the police, who we lost.