bumper wrote:being a fisherman and while in Key West...I thought I would give Hemmingway a shot with "Old Man and the Sea". If ever read a little Freud, you could make some absolute whacko metaphors come to life..
I love Hemingway, but don't "get" Faulkner, Twain or Melville. Go figure.
Hemingway never resolved issues with his mother . . . and spent his life trying to make up for what he thought were his father's weaknesses . . . at least that's my conclusion after about 25 years of reading about the personal side of the man . . . Just finished "Hemingway: The Final Years," which really delves into the relationships he had with women. I'm sure Freud coulda had a field day with Papa!
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
bumper wrote:being a fisherman and while in Key West...I thought I would give Hemmingway a shot with "Old Man and the Sea". If ever read a little Freud, you could make some absolute whacko metaphors come to life..
I love Hemingway, but don't "get" Faulkner, Twain or Melville. Go figure.
Hemingway never resolved issues with his mother . . . and spent his life trying to make up for what he thought were his father's weaknesses . . . at least that's my conclusion after about 25 years of reading about the personal side of the man . . . Just finished "Hemingway: The Final Years," which really delves into the relationships he had with women. I'm sure Freud coulda had a field day with Papa!
The paradox of such a critique, using Freud, is his description of defense mechanism are not reachable and rarely understood by the subject. Therefore, to make the writing of "Old Man and the Sea" connect with Freud's unresovled childhood fantasy theory requires the imaginative mind of a phsychoanylitcally trained professional.....the paradox....anyone who follows Freudian theory is more then a brick or two short of a load.
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bumper wrote:being a fisherman and while in Key West...I thought I would give Hemmingway a shot with "Old Man and the Sea". If ever read a little Freud, you could make some absolute whacko metaphors come to life..
I love Hemingway, but don't "get" Faulkner, Twain or Melville. Go figure.
Hemingway never resolved issues with his mother . . . and spent his life trying to make up for what he thought were his father's weaknesses . . . at least that's my conclusion after about 25 years of reading about the personal side of the man . . . Just finished "Hemingway: The Final Years," which really delves into the relationships he had with women. I'm sure Freud coulda had a field day with Papa!
The paradox of such a critique, using Freud, is his description of defense mechanism are not reachable and rarely understood by the subject. Therefore, to make the writing of "Old Man and the Sea" connect with Freud's unresovled childhood fantasy theory requires the imaginative mind of a phsychoanylitcally trained professional.....the paradox....anyone who follows Freudian theory is more then a brick or two short of a load.
Your first post made me imagine how a session with Freud and Hemingway might have gone.
Your second post made my head hurt. I know so little about Freud and I don't suppose I've ever encountered the imaginative mind of a psychoanalytically trained professional, but I do know some people who are more than a brick or two short of a full load. In fact, I'm related to several. By marriage.
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
bumper wrote:being a fisherman and while in Key West...I thought I would give Hemmingway a shot with "Old Man and the Sea". If ever read a little Freud, you could make some absolute whacko metaphors come to life..
a nice little book, I enjoyed it.
Currently reading Graham Hancock's Underworld : The Mysterious Origins of Civilization
bumper wrote:being a fisherman and while in Key West...I thought I would give Hemmingway a shot with "Old Man and the Sea". If ever read a little Freud, you could make some absolute whacko metaphors come to life..
I love Hemingway, but don't "get" Faulkner, Twain or Melville. Go figure.
Hemingway never resolved issues with his mother . . . and spent his life trying to make up for what he thought were his father's weaknesses . . . at least that's my conclusion after about 25 years of reading about the personal side of the man . . . Just finished "Hemingway: The Final Years," which really delves into the relationships he had with women. I'm sure Freud coulda had a field day with Papa!
The paradox of such a critique, using Freud, is his description of defense mechanism are not reachable and rarely understood by the subject. Therefore, to make the writing of "Old Man and the Sea" connect with Freud's unresovled childhood fantasy theory requires the imaginative mind of a phsychoanylitcally trained professional.....the paradox....anyone who follows Freudian theory is more then a brick or two short of a load.
Your first post made me imagine how a session with Freud and Hemingway might have gone.
with Hemingway's taste for the addictive qualities of life and Freud's stash of addictive quantities...well I am sure they would've a grand ole time.
Favorite take off from Freud's anal stage of development....."sounds like you were potty trained at gunpoint"
-------------------------------------------------------- There is no place like Cabo in the winter
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Reading Twain is an acquired taste, I'm thinking. Like Faulkner. And, he makes you pay attention . . . I'm not used to paying attention when I read fiction, which doesn't say much for today's so-called best-selling authors . . . or my old brain.
I love Twain. His isn't the book to pick up for mindless reading, definitely, but I love his stuff.
Carry on as you know they would want you to do. ~~JB, dedication to Tim Russert
Take your time
Find your passion
Life goes on until it ends
Don’t stop living
Until then
~~Mac McAnally
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Reading Twain is an acquired taste, I'm thinking. Like Faulkner. And, he makes you pay attention . . . I'm not used to paying attention when I read fiction, which doesn't say much for today's so-called best-selling authors . . . or my old brain.
I love Twain. His isn't the book to pick up for mindless reading, definitely, but I love his stuff.
Why does this not surprise me, my deep-thinking friend?
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
Just finished THE CITY OF FALLING ANGELS, John Berendt's new non-fiction book about Venice.
His MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL is one of my favorite books, so I had great expectations.
I enjoyed TCOFA a lot. I've spent time in Venice (college courses), so it was not like I was traveling new territory. Berendt has a way of weaving a lot of disparate (and true) stories together into a wonderful tapestry that somehow make sense at the end.
The book opens with the burning of the Fenice Opera House then floats down the Grand Canal to stories of Peggy Guggenheim, Ezra Pound, two blood sucking leeches, infighting amongst the blue bloods of the Save Venice Foundation, corrupt government officials and a flamboyant, tragic poet.
I didn't race through TCOFA. I read a chapter a night because I didn't want this visit to Venice to ever end.
Enjoy!
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on which side the butter is on) I am a perpetual college student. So I don't often get to choose my reading material. I do have to say I REALLY enjoyed Dante's Inferno. I'm not quite sure what that says about me...
If anyone is familiar (or interested) follow the link to see on which level of hell you would reside in Dante's world.
I'm catching up with everyone's recent reading adventures after coming back from my first-ever visit to London. It was terrific. I wanted to tell big hat carmen that I'm a huge fan of Elizabeth George (as well as other British mystery writing ladies like P.D. James and Ruth Rendell, whose Thirteen Steps Down is my current book.) Anyway, when our bus passed New Scotland Yard I wanted so badly to hop off, go in and ask if Inspector Lynley was avaliable . . . or Adam Dalgliesh . . . or Richard Jury . . . or Barbara Havers . . . If they were, I think I might have turned myself in!
Nicki wrote:I'm catching up with everyone's recent reading adventures after coming back from my first-ever visit to London. It was terrific. I wanted to tell big hat carmen that I'm a huge fan of Elizabeth George (as well as other British mystery writing ladies like P.D. James and Ruth Rendell, whose Thirteen Steps Down is my current book.) Anyway, when our bus passed New Scotland Yard I wanted so badly to hop off, go in and ask if Inspector Lynley was avaliable . . . or Adam Dalgliesh . . . or Richard Jury . . . or Barbara Havers . . . If they were, I think I might have turned myself in!
Nicki: I'm such a fan of Dalgliesh. So glad you enjoyed your trip and I hope it's not your last time to go "over the pond."
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
Just finished a really good first book . . . by Jim Ainsworth . . .if you grew up in the 50's and loved baseball, or if you just like good fiction, well told, I highly recommend
IN THE RIVERS' FLOW
which has nothing to do with water, but everything to do with what happens without it, both literally and figuratively.
The author is from Klondike, not far from my hometown. Don't know much about him, but this book was good enough to keep me reading until 3:30 this morning.
There's a second book in the series and it'll be interesting to see if he can keep up the quality.
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
Nicki wrote:I'm catching up with everyone's recent reading adventures after coming back from my first-ever visit to London. It was terrific. I wanted to tell big hat carmen that I'm a huge fan of Elizabeth George (as well as other British mystery writing ladies like P.D. James and Ruth Rendell, whose Thirteen Steps Down is my current book.) Anyway, when our bus passed New Scotland Yard I wanted so badly to hop off, go in and ask if Inspector Lynley was avaliable . . . or Adam Dalgliesh . . . or Richard Jury . . . or Barbara Havers . . . If they were, I think I might have turned myself in!
Nicki,
I finished EG's A Place of Hiding last night, great book.
Now I am reading Lincoln's Melancholy by Joshua Wolf Shenk, it is about how Lincoln's depression fueled his greatness.
How the heck do you guys find time to read so many books?!?!?!? I've been reading ASPOL for months now! Once I get through it I'll either be reading Little Earthquakes by Jennifer Weiner or The Da Vinci Code.
I've been reading ASPOL for months now! Once I get through it I'll either be reading Little Earthquakes by Jennifer Weiner or The Da Vinci Code.