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Cheese wrote:one again....

Some Buffett fans are REPUBLICANS.

I really don't want or need to debate the political shortcomings of Jimmy, but it doesnt mean that I don't like his music or concerts.

If you don't want to debate it why would insult Jimmy by refering to his "shortcomings"?

a1aara wrote:

Cheese wrote:one again....

Some Buffett fans are REPUBLICANS.

I really don't want or need to debate the political shortcomings of Jimmy, but it doesnt mean that I don't like his music or concerts.

If you don't want to debate it why would insult Jimmy by refering to his "shortcomings"?

Cheese wrote: Some Buffett fans are REPUBLICANS.

Why did SINGING FOR CHANGE have so many concerts right before the election then??


SINGING FOR CHANGE + Pre-Election Concerts = Do not support party in office??

diamonddan wrote:Why did SINGING FOR CHANGE have so many concerts right before the election then??


SINGING FOR CHANGE + Pre-Election Concerts = Do not support party in office??

All the more reason you should boycott. Seriously.

diamonddan wrote:Why did SINGING FOR CHANGE have so many concerts right before the election then??


SINGING FOR CHANGE + Pre-Election Concerts = Do not support party in office??

They didn't, that was Vote For Change and they were sponsored by moveon.org.

diamonddan wrote:Why did SINGING FOR CHANGE have so many concerts right before the election then??


SINGING FOR CHANGE + Pre-Election Concerts = Do not support party in office??

You may be thinking of Vote for Change?

Cheese wrote:You are still being forced to support a cause you may not agree with simply because you are a Jimmy Buffett fan. Those two items are mutually exclusive and should be kept that way. I looked at all the organizations SFC made grants to and although I support some, I do not agree with all of their causes. It may be true it is not a "democratic" organization, but it is definitely a liberal one. Would you all still be as happy if a dollar went to the RNC or NRA. Didn't think so.

agreed.

they should make in an option, like on your tax forms.

tickmaster could have a "check Here" if you want $1 of your ticket money to go to SFC. along with the other added (padded) charges

LIPH wrote:

diamonddan wrote:Why did SINGING FOR CHANGE have so many concerts right before the election then??


SINGING FOR CHANGE + Pre-Election Concerts = Do not support party in office??

They didn't, that was Vote For Change and they were sponsored by moveon.org.

my bad.

Cheese wrote:You are still being forced to support a cause you may not agree with simply because you are a Jimmy Buffett fan.

No, you're not. No one is forcing you to buy a ticket. No one is forcing you to see a Buffett show. By all means, if you don't like who Buffett contributes to, don't go to his shows....

OK, we know it's not optional, never will be. So you have 2 choices, 1) go to the concert with your sphincter puckered about $1, or 2) don't go. Plain and simple.

I can't believe we're even having this conversation.....

if you don't like (or can't at least tolerate) what Jimmy Buffett does with his money, don't spend a dime on his concerts or CDs..... it's that simple..... it really, truly is..... what's to debate?

It's only $1.00. No matter your political affliation, I don't see what the big fuss is. Anyone remotely familiar with Buffett over the years pretty knows where he stands politically. It reminds me of some of the R.E.M. shows I attended last year where any mention of the upcoming election was met with boos from some members of the audience. I fail to see why someone would pay upwards of $75 a ticket just so they could go in and boo the performers onstage. For the record, no endorsement of John Kerry was ever made, just a reminder to vote in the upcoming election.

I've been seeing Buffett shows for years and for many of those there's been a dollar donated to SFC. The assumption here is that the price of the ticket goes up a dollar to make this donation however it may very well be that instead of going directly to SFC Jimmy could have said leave the ticket at whatever the price is and then donate a dollar per ticket out of his pocket. The end result would be the same cost to the consumer and the charities would still get there money so what is the big deal?

If you really feel like you are being forced to donate to causes that you don't like you had better take a long hard look at who you do busy with since most companies donate money to various causes and they don't consult the consumer at all. Many donate money to both major political parties to insure access, some donate to causes that they believe share a common political or moral view point and a few donate a little to a wide range of causes based on the belief of spreading the wealth around.

Once you realize you have a lot of choices to make I hope that you can find a way to live the life you enjoy.

Cheese wrote:... It may be true it is not a "democratic" organization, but it is definitely a liberal one. Would you all still be as happy if a dollar went to the RNC or NRA. Didn't think so.

I probably wouldn't be happy about the RNC or NRA (or DNC or PeTA) getting funds. The things I see listed as getting funded last year don't seem to me to be that close to either extreme of the political spectrum though.

Now, if'n you wanna talk donations, click here (http://www.buffettnews.com/forum/viewto ... &start=140) and make a donation to fight Leukemia. Both Elrod and Kitty have links on this page for donations, and I'll have a link up soon.

(We're part of Leukemia and Lymphoma Team in Training, running or walking a marathon to raise money to fight Leukemia and other blood cancers.)

Cheese wrote:Would you all still be as happy if a dollar went to the RNC or NRA. Didn't think so.

I'm apathetic as to the RNC (or DNC) donations, but I'm all for funneling as much cash as possible into the NRA

diamonddan wrote:
they should make in an option, like on your tax forms.

tickmaster could have a "check Here" if you want $1 of your ticket money to go to SFC. along with the other added (padded) charges

If you really feel that strongly about it, buy a ticket to the Charlotte show and I will personally give you back the dollar. I'll be easy to find, I'll be the one in the hawaiian shirt WITH a lei around my neck.

rednekkPH wrote:I'm pathetic

Well, I'm not gonna argue with that....

Springsteen does the same thing with his concerts...a portion goes back to the community in which he played. and for the record SINGING FOR CHANGE organization is different then the VOTE FOR CHANGE organization.

AND I don't think ticket prices went up at all...thus the money is a direct contribution from Jimmy...

AND if you don't want you money going to places that you don't support then you need to start checking the bacground of all the companies from which you purchase products. Most companies donate money to charity at some point in time...and you don't know where that money is going either...

AND good grief its only $1 and its no like he's donating it to the skinhead nation or KKK

AND I am a republican...but don't care who my entertainers support or where their $$$ goes....they are out there working just like the rest of us...and should be able to in this free nation of our be able to SPEND their money however they darn well please...

fleshandbone wrote:

buffettbride wrote:I think Ticketmaster sux. I don't believe in that cause, but if I want to see Jimmy then TM makes their bux.

The SFC dollar is not a TM charge it's a contribution to Jimmy's foundation.
I wouldn't necessarily call the contribution political. Check out the grants they've made. We should all be able to agree that these are good causes.

http://margaritaville.com/sfc/index.htm

I didn't mean that was a TM charge, I meant that there are a plethora of fees and donation on concert tickets or which TM is also a "charger". I don't like it, but I still have to pay it if I want to see Jimmy.