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Posted: February 11, 2005 10:01 am
by Tiki Bar
Jahfin wrote:My main thing, I was fan long before that term was coined and I'm still a fan now, I just feel like I have to succumb to all the window dressing to express my fandom. I have nothing whatsoever against those that do, I think it's a big part of what makes Buffett concerts what they are but it also doesn't make me any less of a fan if I don't follow their lead. To each their own...
In my opinion, it's not the window dressing that makes the parrot head. I think it's an inner spirit of euphoria, friendship, generousity, and love that is stirred by Jimmy Buffett's music and writing. That feeling that hits you when you realize "I have found me a home".
Posted: February 11, 2005 10:12 am
by nycparrothead
Tiki Bar wrote:Jahfin wrote:My main thing, I was fan long before that term was coined and I'm still a fan now, I just feel like I have to succumb to all the window dressing to express my fandom. I have nothing whatsoever against those that do, I think it's a big part of what makes Buffett concerts what they are but it also doesn't make me any less of a fan if I don't follow their lead. To each their own...
In my opinion, it's not the window dressing that makes the parrot head. I think it's an inner spirit of euphoria,
friendship, generousity, and love that is stirred by Jimmy Buffett's music and writing. That feeling that hits you when you realize "I have found me a home".
Jahfin doesn't have any friends.. Perhaps this is the part of Parrotheadism that he has problems with.. I understand now.. Sorry for my comment earlier Jah...
Posted: February 11, 2005 10:39 am
by Jahfin
nycparrothead wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:Jahfin wrote:My main thing, I was fan long before that term was coined and I'm still a fan now, I just feel like I have to succumb to all the window dressing to express my fandom. I have nothing whatsoever against those that do, I think it's a big part of what makes Buffett concerts what they are but it also doesn't make me any less of a fan if I don't follow their lead. To each their own...
In my opinion, it's not the window dressing that makes the parrot head. I think it's an inner spirit of euphoria,
friendship, generousity, and love that is stirred by Jimmy Buffett's music and writing. That feeling that hits you when you realize "I have found me a home".
Jahfin doesn't have any friends.. Perhaps this is the part of Parrotheadism that he has problems with.. I understand now.. Sorry for my comment earlier Jah...
I have plenty of friends, just because I don't consider myself a "parrothead", "Deadhead", etc. shouldn't imply otherwise. Some of us just don't like to be pigeonholed as being one thing or the other. I was a Jimmy Buffett fan long before the word "parrothead" came into vogue and I'm still one to this day. Just because I refuse to conform to other people's notions of what a Jimmy Buffett fan is doesn't make me any less of one.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:18 am
by Tiki Bar
Jahfin wrote:Just because I refuse to conform to other people's notions of what a Jimmy Buffett fan is doesn't make me any less of one.
Who around here conforms?
From Margaritaville.com:
"I think it is a unique situation in that it started as a cult following and now the 'flock' has multiplied. There is no official Parrot Head outfit. I feel that most Parrot Heads are non-conformists. Out of all the causes available, Parrot Head-ism seems to be one these people can affectionately embrace."
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:25 am
by Jahfin
Tiki Bar wrote:Jahfin wrote:Just because I refuse to conform to other people's notions of what a Jimmy Buffett fan is doesn't make me any less of one.
Who around here conforms?
From Margaritaville.com:
"I think it is a unique situation in that it started as a cult following and now the 'flock' has multiplied. There is no official Parrot Head outfit. I feel that most Parrot Heads are non-conformists. Out of all the causes available, Parrot Head-ism seems to be one these people can affectionately embrace."
Because, just like Deadheads, they all dress alike. Maybe not identical, but alike. That's conforming. Again, if that's your thing by all means go for it. It's just not mine. It's kinda like the person on here that mentioned "finning" someone in their office one day and their co-workers looked at him/her like they were an idiot because they didn't "get" it. Well, there's some of us that "get" it just fine but that doesn't mean we have to dress and act like everyone else. It's really not that big of a deal. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:29 am
by nycparrothead
Jahfin wrote:Well, there's some of us that "get" it just fine but that doesn't mean we have to dress and act like everyone else. It's really not that big of a deal. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
I wore a (non-buffett) t-shirt and khaki shorts to the Jones Beach show last year. If I'm not mistaken, i don't think everyone else there had the same apparel and I still considered myself a parrothead. So, shut up cause you're a friggin' idiot...
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:36 am
by ph4ever
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:40 am
by Tiki Bar
Jahfin wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:Jahfin wrote:Just because I refuse to conform to other people's notions of what a Jimmy Buffett fan is doesn't make me any less of one.
Who around here conforms?
From Margaritaville.com:
"I think it is a unique situation in that it started as a cult following and now the 'flock' has multiplied. There is no official Parrot Head outfit. I feel that most Parrot Heads are non-conformists. Out of all the causes available, Parrot Head-ism seems to be one these people can affectionately embrace."
Because, just like Deadheads, they all dress alike. Maybe not identical, but alike. That's conforming. Again, if that's your thing by all means go for it. It's just not mine. It's kinda like the person on here that mentioned "finning" someone in their office one day and their co-workers looked at him/her like they were an idiot because they didn't "get" it. Well, there's some of us that "get" it just fine but that doesn't mean we have to dress and act like everyone else. It's really not that big of a deal. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
I think we disagree on what constitutes a parrothead is all. You seem to think it's a visual thing, but I think it's a feeling. I think there are a plenty of parrotheads that haven't even been to a concert, muchless dressed up for one.
Tiki Bar wrote:In my opinion, it's not the window dressing that makes the parrot head. I think it's an inner spirit of euphoria, friendship, generousity, and love that is stirred by Jimmy Buffett's music and writing. That feeling that hits you when you realize "I have found me a home".
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:41 am
by Jahfin
nycparrothead wrote:Jahfin wrote:Well, there's some of us that "get" it just fine but that doesn't mean we have to dress and act like everyone else. It's really not that big of a deal. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
I wore a (non-buffett) t-shirt and khaki shorts to the Jones Beach show last year. If I'm not mistaken, i don't think everyone else there had the same apparel and I still considered myself a parrothead. So, shut up cause you're a friggin' idiot...
That's different and clearly not at all what I'm talking about. And I'll ask you politely to please refrain from the name calling and telling me to shut up. Thanks, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:43 am
by Jahfin
Tiki Bar wrote:Jahfin wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:Jahfin wrote:Just because I refuse to conform to other people's notions of what a Jimmy Buffett fan is doesn't make me any less of one.
Who around here conforms?
From Margaritaville.com:
"I think it is a unique situation in that it started as a cult following and now the 'flock' has multiplied. There is no official Parrot Head outfit. I feel that most Parrot Heads are non-conformists. Out of all the causes available, Parrot Head-ism seems to be one these people can affectionately embrace."
Because, just like Deadheads, they all dress alike. Maybe not identical, but alike. That's conforming. Again, if that's your thing by all means go for it. It's just not mine. It's kinda like the person on here that mentioned "finning" someone in their office one day and their co-workers looked at him/her like they were an idiot because they didn't "get" it. Well, there's some of us that "get" it just fine but that doesn't mean we have to dress and act like everyone else. It's really not that big of a deal. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
I think we disagree on what constitutes a parrothead is all. You seem to think it's a visual thing, but I think it's a feeling. I think there are a plenty of parrotheads that haven't even been to a concert, muchless dressed up for one.
Tiki Bar wrote:In my opinion, it's not the window dressing that makes the parrot head. I think it's an inner spirit of euphoria, friendship, generousity, and love that is stirred by Jimmy Buffett's music and writing. That feeling that hits you when you realize "I have found me a home".
Still, "parrothead", like "Deadhead" are terms I'm not particularly fond of. Like I said, Buffett fans were referred to as just that for many years prior to Timothy B. Schmidt coining the term.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:44 am
by nycparrothead
Jahfin wrote:That's different and clearly not at all what I'm talking about. And I'll ask you politely to please refrain from the name calling and telling me to shut up. Thanks, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Hey there jerky... I'll stop the name calling and telling you to shut your piehole as soon as you stop turning every thread on this board into a debate about your petty, anal retentive ideals... We have a deal??? If not, shut the hell up, buttweasel!
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:46 am
by Jahfin
nycparrothead wrote:Jahfin wrote:That's different and clearly not at all what I'm talking about. And I'll ask you politely to please refrain from the name calling and telling me to shut up. Thanks, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Hey there jerky... I'll stop the name calling and telling you to shut your piehole as soon as you stop turning every thread on this board into a debate about your petty, anal retentive ideals... We have a deal??? If not, shut the hell up, buttweasel!
I'm just expressing my opinion, there's no rules against that that I know of.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:52 am
by ph4ever
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:52 am
by nycparrothead
Jahfin wrote:nycparrothead wrote:Jahfin wrote:That's different and clearly not at all what I'm talking about. And I'll ask you politely to please refrain from the name calling and telling me to shut up. Thanks, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Hey there jerky... I'll stop the name calling and telling you to shut your piehole as soon as you stop turning every thread on this board into a debate about your petty, anal retentive ideals... We have a deal??? If not, shut the hell up, buttweasel!
I'm just expressing my opinion, there's no rules against that that I know of.
And there are no rules against annoying the crap out of everyone either. However, I would think that you'd be a decent enough human being that when told you are doing so, you would try and curb it a little. Ya dink!
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:55 am
by DonnaKayDunbar
Does every friggin thread around here have to be ruined by some peoples lack of getting-alongness?
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:56 am
by Jahfin
nycparrothead wrote:Jahfin wrote:nycparrothead wrote:Jahfin wrote:That's different and clearly not at all what I'm talking about. And I'll ask you politely to please refrain from the name calling and telling me to shut up. Thanks, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Hey there jerky... I'll stop the name calling and telling you to shut your piehole as soon as you stop turning every thread on this board into a debate about your petty, anal retentive ideals... We have a deal??? If not, shut the hell up, buttweasel!
I'm just expressing my opinion, there's no rules against that that I know of.
And there are no rules against annoying the crap out of anyone either. However, I would think that you'd be a decent enough human being that when told you are doing so, you would try and curb it a little. Ya dink!
I don't see anyone forcing you to read or post in the same threads I post in. If I want to say how I feel about being labeled a "parrothead" just because I'm a fan of Jimmy Buffett's I will continue to do so. Know what you folks keep saying about the Celebrity Death Pool thread? If it offends you, stay out of it? The same applies here.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:57 am
by nycparrothead
DonnaKayDunbar wrote:Does every friggin thread around here have to be ruined by some peoples lack of getting-alongness?
Probably not... But I'm cranky.... Wanna fight?
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:58 am
by big hat carmen
Jahfin,
I am not trying to get in the middle of this, but this debate does raise some questions for me.
What exactly draws you to BN? You seem not to want to participate in the things that draw most of us here, like concerts, meeting others, phlockings and all the other social interactions.
Have you ever met anyone from this board? Do you want to?
This is my opinion: your posts of all the information, that you seem to feel that we need, come across to me in a pedantic, almost condescending manner. To me, you seem to have set yourself as the sole arbiter of music information. If I choose to seek out this information, I am perfectly capable of finding it without help.
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:58 am
by DonnaKayDunbar
PalmettoSon wrote:Okay, I'm "Growing older..." but I think I deserve a little credit since I was born in November of 1979, I didn't really have enough time in the '70s to become a Buffett fan.
Around 1985 my dad bought a 30' Bertram. For a five year old it was the biggest, coolest boat ever. It had a tape deck, for crying our loud! To augment said tape deck my dad promptly went out and bought two new tapes for our first trip out on the boat, both of which still bring back fond memories of the days on the Enterprise (no he's not a Trekkie, he's an entrepreneur). One was Sports by Huey Lewis & the News (I don't think you were allowed to own a tape deck in the mid-'80s without this tape) and the other was Last Mango in Paris, the new one by this blond mustachioed guy named Jimmy Buffett. I was hooked from the fist note of Everybody's On the Run, and it wasn't long before I got my hands on more.
During the Jimmy's Jump Up tour (1990, I think) I attended my first concert ever in Hilton Head, SC, after begging my parents for a ticket (I believe the argument I used was, "but Mom, I'm the one who listens to Jimmy Buffett all the time, not you!"). Needless to say I'm still hooked after 20 years.
I may have only been a fan since the '80s, but I've been listening for a full 80% of my life.
I'm just a skosh older than you (July of 79, first concert in like 86-ish), but we have almost the same kinda story. Badass!
Posted: February 11, 2005 11:59 am
by Jahfin
DonnaKayDunbar wrote:Does every friggin thread around here have to be ruined by some peoples lack of getting-alongness?
I don't know, try asking nycparrothead and IsleReef. I'm just expressing an opinion, I can't help it if they don't agree and can't think of any other way to go about it than by resorting to namecalling and/or attempting to hijack others threads.
